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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 2:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Johnson 98%
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Nice, mostly compatible with me. You single?

I feel single.
If only you were a straight Republican, instead of a gay Republican. :(

Pssst.... I'm neither gay nor Republican.

But I am making the crime dog happy. :wink:
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 3:31 am    Post subject: Re: Who Did You REALLY side With? Reply with quote

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I also fell in that same quadrant, but very close to the center (somewhat libertarian only a cunt-hair left of center).


I was dead center in the middle of the left, in the Gandhi quadrant. I can't call myself Libertarian, because in some things I am very much a statist. For example, I LOVE the Do Not Call list. I do not care if corporations say they don't need that regulation and will have to cut jobs. Hell, I would volunteer to help shut down a telemarketing business for free. The Fair Debt Reporting Act is another favorite, most especially when a company reports me for not paying a a bill, several years after I did pay the bill. I can not tell you how wonderful it was to call that collection agency back and ask the supervisor if she would care to have the case number for the investigation being conducted against her company by the FTC. I never heard from them again and very much kept my 817 credit score.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 3:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Pssst.... I'm neither gay nor Republican.

But I am making the crime dog happy. :wink:
I thought you were just making commentary about the left's opinion that the party needs to appeal to all the popular labels to get votes.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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But I am making the crime dog happy. :wink:


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:40 am    Post subject: Re: Who Did You REALLY side With? Reply with quote

anyNiXwilldo wrote:
I can't call myself Libertarian, because in some things I am very much a statist. For example, I LOVE the Do Not Call list. I do not care if corporations say they don't need that regulation and will have to cut jobs. Hell, I would volunteer to help shut down a telemarketing business for free.

Hehe, yeah I agree. Though you might not agree with what I'm about to say ;)

Right-whingers who say that corporations should be free to do whatever the hell they want, but people need strict laws and repression as they just can't be trusted (or are "stupid" -- usually a racist codeword for "black and poor, and thus uneducated" which is a very different thing indeed) make no sense at all. Who are corporations run by if not people?

People who not incidentally have shown themselves to have no compunction about stealing as much money as they can from everyone else, buying up politics and the media to lobby for warfare and a modern-day feudalist society, and completely messing up the planet for everyone, so long as they can hide in their gated communities (like that'll protect them in the end.) Yeah, they can be trusted, as though somehow the "market" can replace a conscience and collaboration can only happen between "competitors" who slice it up in a cartel, while everyone else must be kept at each others' throats, and in a constant state of fear.
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The Fair Debt Reporting Act is another favorite, most especially when a company reports me for not paying a a bill, several years after I did pay the bill. I can not tell you how wonderful it was to call that collection agency back and ask the supervisor if she would care to have the case number for the investigation being conducted against her company by the FTC. I never heard from them again and very much kept my 817 credit score.

Heh now that sounds like a delicious feeling.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quiz is busted. No way am I a libertardian.

Gary Johnson 87%
Jill Stein 77%
Barack Obama 69%
Mitt Romney 63%
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 2:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Who Did You REALLY side With? Reply with quote

anyNiXwilldo wrote:
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hey! we agree (mainly).


Are you European? Europeans have always loved me & I them, probably due to my political leanings & outlook on life. http://www.politicalcompass.org/test identifies me as a 'leftist libertarian.' I take that to mean I am leftist in the true sense of the word, rather than what 'left' means in US political terms. It's odd because I've been in the US south all of my life. I don't think my kind is supposed to be found here.


nah. canadian. but lived in europe for a while. Europe is a bit weird. for leftists, they are pretty xenophobic.

yeah, I thought your kind only exist in zoos as exotic creatures.

BoneKracker wrote:

Political Compass uses a two-axis system (like the Nolan chart). In that context, "Left" means "favoring economic authoritarianism as opposed to economic freedom", and "Libertarian" means "favoring social freedom as opposed to social authoritarianism". So, you would be a socially liberal economic authoritarian.

I also fell in that same quadrant, but very close to the center (somewhat libertarian only a cunt-hair left of center). Most of the Europeans in here who took it described themselves as "pretty much centrist" and turned out to be balls-out leftists and somewhat libertarian (except for mcgruff, who turned out to be Kim Il-Sung).


IIRC, I was socially very liberal and somewhat (more than slightly, but not a lot) to the left economically.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Quiz is busted. No way am I a libertardian.

Gary Johnson 87%
Jill Stein 77%
Barack Obama 69%
Mitt Romney 63%

Ha ha. Why don't you move to Somalia? I hear it's a libertarian paradise.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dmitchell wrote:
runningwithscissors wrote:
Quiz is busted. No way am I a libertardian.

Gary Johnson 87%
Jill Stein 77%
Barack Obama 69%
Mitt Romney 63%

Ha ha. Why don't you move to Somalia? I hear it's a libertarian paradise.


:lol: :lol: :lol: Perhaps it's time for RWS to come out of the closet.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

90% Mitt Romney on domestic policy, foreign policy, social, economic, immigration, science, and environmental issues
69% Virgil Goode on economic and social issues
64% Gary Johnson Libertarian on economic and science issues
61% Barack Obama Democrat
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is *the* most worthless thread in OTW. Ever.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Candidates you side with...
99% Gary Johnson Libertarian on foreign policy, domestic policy, environmental, economic, social, immigration, healthcare, and science issues

60% Virgil Goode Constitution on foreign policy issues

34% Rocky Anderson Justice on social issues

28% Jill Stein Green on social issues

20% Mitt Romney Republican no major issues

7% Barack Obama Democrat on immigration issues

90% Libertarian
52% Republican
51% Green
13% Democrat
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

juniper wrote:
dmitchell wrote:
runningwithscissors wrote:
Quiz is busted. No way am I a libertardian.

Gary Johnson 87%
Jill Stein 77%
Barack Obama 69%
Mitt Romney 63%

Ha ha. Why don't you move to Somalia? I hear it's a libertarian paradise.


:lol: :lol: :lol: Perhaps it's time for RWS to come out of the closet.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

93%
Jill Stein Green
on foreign policy, environmental, domestic policy, economic, social, science, and immigration issues
81%
Rocky AndersonRocky Anderson Justice
on foreign policy, domestic policy, social, and environmental issues
78%
Gary JohnsonGary Johnson Libertarian
on foreign policy, social, and healthcare issues
72%
Barack ObamaBarack Obama Democrat
on environmental and science issues
51%
Virgil GoodeVirgil Goode Constitution
on foreign policy issues
17%
Mitt RomneyMitt Romney Republican
no major issues
55%
American Voters
on foreign policy, environmental, domestic policy, social, science, and healthcare issues.

95% Green
91% Democrat
64% Libertarian
13% Republican

I am shocked - where is the socialist with national leanings option?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dmitchell wrote:
runningwithscissors wrote:
Quiz is busted. No way am I a libertardian.

Gary Johnson 87%
Jill Stein 77%
Barack Obama 69%
Mitt Romney 63%

Ha ha. Why don't you move to Somalia? I hear it's a libertarian paradise.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 1:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ha ha. Why don't you move to Somalia? I hear it's a libertarian paradise.
LOL

Wasn't it the good old USA who declared the largest Somali remittance provider a "terrorist" organisation, thus curtailing income worth more than 10 times the amount of any aid given to Somalia, setting the stage for the events of the last decade or two?

I guess you two are fine with the USA being the largest sponsor of terror the world has ever seen. Still, it's the end of your Empire: how does it feel? (Apart from the insecurity you're displaying here.)

Do you reckon those you've had under your regime will look back on these times with any sort of fondness? I mean, for example, the stated pretext of "human rights" as a reason to provide undemocratic regimes with instruments of torture, and training in how to use them, so that US corporations could have a "favourable climate for economic investment." Wonder how the families of the disappeared all across the globe feel about you, and your preppy-boy braying about how great you are, and how sad their little lives are.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 2:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The U.S. is not, and has never been (not even in its darkest days during the height of the Cold War), the "largest exporter of terrorism on the planet". Nor has the U.S. provided undemocratic regimes with instruments of torture. Nor do we make people "disappear", like authoritarian left-wing states do.

What we have done (and this admission is to justify it) is openly use extremely mild forms of torture on three men having information that could save the lives of thousands of innocent people (information which, for example, led to the death of Osama bin Laden and the infiltration of al Qaeda in Yemen), while other hypocritical governments looked on, concealing their own similar and worse activity, allowing their mindless, babbling idiotic citizenry to be used as political puppets in protests of the U.S. activity, only to immediately drop the subject when the U.S. government changed hands, despite the fact that the activity continued in secret and was escalated into a rampaging campaign of assassination, because such protests were no longer useful in protecting and advancing their own socio-economic agenda.

You're a propaganda victim -- a hand-puppet -- and you don't even know it. :?

Also, your bigotry is showing: you talk about someone "braying about how great" the U.S. is, but no one has done so. No one has uttered anything that could even remotely be construed as such. I suppose that must just be happening in your head then, right? So ask yourself why that is, and how such irrelevant thoughts manage to wiggle, unbidden, out of there into the forefront of your thinking and into this conversation.
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The U.S. is not, and has never been (not even in its darkest days during the height of the Cold War), the "largest exporter of terrorism on the planet". Nor has the U.S. provided undemocratic regimes with instruments of torture. Nor do we make people "disappear", like authoritarian left-wing states do.

What we have done (and this admission is to justify it) is openly use extremely mild forms of torture on three men having information that could save the lives of thousands of innocent people (information which, for example, led to the death of Osama bin Laden and the infiltration of al Qaeda in Yemen), while other hypocritical governments looked on, concealing their own similar and worse activity, allowing their mindless, babbling idiotic citizenry to be used as political puppets in protests of the U.S. activity, only to immediately drop the subject when the U.S. government changed hands, despite the fact that the activity continued in secret and was escalated into a rampaging campaign of assassination, because such protests were no longer useful in protecting and advancing their own socio-economic agenda.

You're a propaganda victim -- a hand-puppet -- and you don't even know it. :?

Also, your bigotry is showing: you talk about someone "braying about how great" the U.S. is, but no one has done so. No one has uttered anything that could even remotely be construed as such. I suppose that must just be happening in your head then, right? So ask yourself why that is, and how such irrelevant thoughts manage to wiggle, unbidden, out of there into the forefront of your thinking and into this conversation.


I saw that he had quoted me, however I am fairly certain that his response was meant for someone else... or maybe wrong thread and/or forum?

Just giving him the benefit of the doubt ya'know.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He's probably some European hypocrite, in denial about the fact practically all the suffering in the world today is still a result of their racist Imperialism and millennia-long campaigns of rapacious violence across the globe.
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He's probably some European hypocrite, in denial about the fact practically all the suffering in the world today is still a result of their racist Imperialism and millennia-long campaigns of rapacious violence across the globe.
And the fact that he doesn't understand why what dmitchell said to runningwithscissors is hilarious and ironic (and was meant to be so).
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Johnson 98%
Romney 70%
Goode 57%
Obama 8%
Nice, mostly compatible with me. You single?

I feel single.
If only you were a straight Republican, instead of a gay Republican. :(

Pssst.... I'm neither gay nor Republican.

But I am making the crime dog happy. :wink:
Your avatar betrays your words!
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tylerwylie wrote:
BoneKracker wrote:
He's probably some European hypocrite, in denial about the fact practically all the suffering in the world today is still a result of their racist Imperialism and millennia-long campaigns of rapacious violence across the globe.
And the fact that he doesn't understand why what dmitchell said to runningwithscissors is hilarious and ironic (and was meant to be so).

Yeah. Rather than say, "Hmmm.... that doesn't seem rational. Perhaps it's some kind of inside joke.", he immediately whipped out his little pee-pee, wrapped it in his Che T-shirt, and starting thumping it. :roll:
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I guess you two are fine with the USA being the largest sponsor of terror the world has ever seen.


Uh, have you read the bible? Even us Vikings had some standards.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BoneKracker wrote:
The U.S. is not, and has never been (not even in its darkest days during the height of the Cold War), the "largest exporter of terrorism on the planet". Nor has the U.S. provided undemocratic regimes with instruments of torture. Nor do we make people "disappear", like authoritarian left-wing states do.


no, it just supported Subharta taking over East Timor and the follwing blood shed. Supported Saddam Hussein and delivered him all the weapons he asked for. The USA also supported following mass murdering assholes and terrorists:
Contras
Pinochet
Argentinian Junta
Greece Junta

Also don't forget the close ties with Pakistan (who incidentally killed countless Bengalis). Or the support if South Africa's war in Angola. But hey, suppressing people was never wrong in the books of the USA as long as there was profit to be made for the corporations of the american ruling class. Also don't forget those terrorists in Afghanistan - that were supported by the USA once and called freedom fighters and other nice names. Until they took over the country and talks of an oil pipeline broke down. Oh and Operation Gladio. The actions of the South Vietnamese Regime were all ok too btw,

and than this:
http://rt.com/usa/news/cia-anti-terrorism-activity/
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/sep/06/human-rights-watch-us-waterboarding
http://rt.com/usa/news/cia-guilty-agent-kiriakou-063/
http://rt.com/usa/news/cia-torture-prison-judge-032/

the question that remains:
was it plain ignorance or willful lying in your part?
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