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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 4:03 pm    Post subject: 2nd vs. 1st amendment? Reply with quote

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/deport-british-citizen-piers-morgan-attacking-2nd-amendment/prfh5zHD

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vs.? If you haven't noticed, the individuals creating petitions on that site are rather ignorant. That said, there should be a special European Equivalency Tax applied to Piers (etc.) to make them feel more at home.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Equally Enlightened Authorities?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

flysideways wrote:
Equally Enlightened Authorities?
That's kind of like "one of these things is not like the other" on Sesame Street. Apparently those decision makers have trouble with that concept. Other than being a bit overly whiny, Savage doesn't say anything over the top (I periodically hear ~20 minutes of his show a few times per month).
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothing needs to be done

Not talking about gun control or banning guns, but something is rotten, rotten to the core
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Not talking about gun control or banning guns, but something is rotten, rotten to the core
Voters. They reelect those interested in chipping away at civil liberties.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 7:27 pm    Post subject: Re: 2nd vs. 1st amendment? Reply with quote

marens wrote:
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/deport-british-citizen-piers-morgan-attacking-2nd-amendment/prfh5zHD

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Awesome. I personally would rather he got deported for just being a complete asshat.

People's exhibit A : Piers Morgan being a dick to Penn Jillette.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2012 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Nothing needs to be done

Not talking about gun control or banning guns, but something is rotten, rotten to the core


That something is repeat offenders.

BBC wrote:
He had previously served a 17-year jail sentence after being convicted of killing his grandmother.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2012 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fix this, "do what I like doing best, killing people,"
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2012 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mental issues don't have an easy fix.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2012 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eeyrjmr wrote:
Nothing needs to be done

Not talking about gun control or banning guns, but something is rotten, rotten to the core


how did you link to an article written 18 hours after your post timestamp?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pjp wrote:
eeyrjmr wrote:
Not talking about gun control or banning guns, but something is rotten, rotten to the core
Voters. They reelect those interested in chipping away at civil liberties.

Voters, the guilty ones? I beg you to reconsider. Once in a milenium you will encounter a good politician worth voting for.
[edit] The whole gun-politics are not the core problem as I see it. It's the culture. I think it is too difficult to be of an other opinion but to tick off some lesser mentally stable student in the US. Things will happen.
[edit 2] I think I got myself explained correctly? :lol:
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Piers Morgan is an ignorant fool.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bogamol wrote:
eeyrjmr wrote:
Nothing needs to be done

Not talking about gun control or banning guns, but something is rotten, rotten to the core


how did you link to an article written 18 hours after your post timestamp?

Where I live is almost a whole day ahead of the US. So it is yesterday in the US a lot.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 2:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

patrix_neo wrote:
Voters, the guilty ones? I beg you to reconsider. Once in a milenium you will encounter a good politician worth voting for.
IMO, congress is much like compost. So reelecting the same politicians isn't effective.
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the process of composting simply requires making a heap of wetted organic matter (leaves, "green" food waste) and waiting for the materials to break down into humus after a period of weeks or months. Modern, methodical composting is a multi-step, closely monitored process with measured inputs of water, air and carbon- and nitrogen-rich materials. The decomposition process is aided by shredding the plant matter, adding water and ensuring proper aeration by regularly turning the mixture. Worms and fungi further break up the material.
But I agree that reelecting them is a societal problem.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 3:08 am    Post subject: Re: 2nd vs. 1st amendment? Reply with quote

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marens wrote:
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/deport-british-citizen-piers-morgan-attacking-2nd-amendment/prfh5zHD

:lol:


Awesome. I personally would rather he got deported for just being a complete asshat.

People's exhibit A : Piers Morgan being a dick to Penn Jillette.
I can't watch. As soon as he started talking about "it's the job of the government" I knew I was in trouble. Then he mentioned FDR, and I had to stop. At that point, about 70 seconds, he wasn't being a dick, just an idiot.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The UK doesn't want him back!

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UK Government: Stop Piers Morgan from being deported back to the UK from America

We got rid of him once and why should we have to suffer again. The Americans wanted him so they should put up with him. We washed our hands of him a long time ago.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Over 80,000 signatures to deport him already!


30,000 is the threshold to have the Whitehouse comment on the issue :lol:
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do find it quite odd how so many are willing to put the 2nd amendment (bear arms) before the 1st (free speech)

He has every right to say what he likes. If you don't like it, don't listen. Sounds like a bunch of pussy were not holding their guns when they watched or heard of this; only explaination for their disproportionate pussified reaction, since holding a gun stops you being a pussy.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He's not a citizen, he's a foreign agitator trying to undermine the constitution! Deport the prick now!!!


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, adopted in 1948, states that:
"Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers."


To deport him, what exact law did he break?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pjp wrote:
Mental issues don't have an easy fix.

You don't need to fix the people, you can't do this if you don't have access to guns.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Mental issues don't have an easy fix.

You don't need to fix the people, you can't do this if you don't have access to guns.
Surely you'd get more support with a humane approach like "putting them to sleep"
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pjp wrote:
YawningAngel wrote:
pjp wrote:
Mental issues don't have an easy fix.

You don't need to fix the people, you can't do this if you don't have access to guns.
Surely you'd get more support with a humane approach like "putting them to sleep"


Typical American thinking. Calling it humane to kill other people. Great plan mate.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 2:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought YawningAngel was suggesting to shoot them, so I suggested a more humane alternative. I now see he was probably suggesting we abridge civil liberties.

So are you on the preferred non-American way of thinking that abridging civil liberties is a Great Plan? Hopefully not, 'cause that is about as far from a great plan as you can get. Nice typical knee-jerk you've got there.
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