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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Did you get it yet? No? Here's something to cheer you up: http://youtu.be/M7yyI0k4dEU

Oh no, I won't have it for about three more weeks. There's a lot more to go through to get my hands on this thing.

1. I need the local firearms licensee to fax their transcript to the Palmetto State Armory.
2. I need PSA to process that license and ship the controlled item.
3. I need to go to the local licensee to register it with the ATF and take a written exam.
4. I need to wait ten days while a background check is conducted.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you watch the video?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Better for home defense: a Remington 870 12-gauge (I'm fond of the Marine Magnum myself) with a bright tactical light on it.

The light will help you stay out of prison by minimizing the chances of shooting your sleep-walking neighbor. Good ones are bright enough to cause temporary blindness at night, reducing the probability of having to shoot in order to gain control of an intruder. Also helpful in staying out prison is pre-loading progressively more lethal rounds in the magazine (just about everything is available for 12-gauge):
(1) die-marking beanbag
(2) bb-size rock salt in a #7 birdshot shell
(3) 00 rubber buckshot
(4) #7 birdshot
(5) buckshot
(6) 00 buckshot
Carry 4 more 00 buck on stock

Carbines are useless. Get a real rifle.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Better for home defense: a Remington 870 12-gauge (I'm fond of the Marine Magnum myself) with a super-bright tactical light on it.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You want me to get that big-ass thing for inside my house? That's insane. With this carbine* I'm getting, I can at least collapse the stock for indoor maneuverability.

* The faggotry we have in California says the barrel has to be at least 16", so it's not a real carbine.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could opt for UK style self defense. A stern ticking off - although
obviously - not too stern, that could cause issues for the intruder.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does that mean I get to point my finger at them, or am I reduced to just yelling?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wswartzendruber wrote:
You want me to get that big-ass thing for inside my house? That's insane. With this carbine* I'm getting, I can at least collapse the stock for indoor maneuverability.

* The faggotry we have in California says the barrel has to be at least 16", so it's not a real carbine.

The shotgun round will not go through the intruder and three walls like that .223 round would.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wswartzendruber wrote:
Does that mean I get to point my finger at them, or am I reduced to just yelling?


Well, if you suggest anger management classes beforehand the courts might
not come down so heavily and allow both.

Actually, whilst we're on the subject - how does one go about obtaining a firearm in your neck of the
woods ? Presumably you need a licence ?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Upon ordering the weapon, you undergo a ten-day background check. Assuming you pass, the firearm is then registered to you by the ATF (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms). Individual states may have further stipulations, though.

EDIT: I'm paying $85 just to get this thing in my name.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay I meant to ask this earlier but the reason you're buying this in parts, because ...?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wswartzendruber wrote:
You want me to get that big-ass thing for inside my house? That's insane. With this carbine* I'm getting, I can at least collapse the stock for indoor maneuverability.

* The faggotry we have in California says the barrel has to be at least 16", so it's not a real carbine.

It's not big at all. It's only got an 18-inch barrel, which makes it quite maneuverable. In overall length, it's only 38 inches.

However, if you have a hardon for a short length, you can get a tactical version of it, which has a collapsable stock, pistol grip, and is matte black. That's also available with a 14-inch barrel (instead of the legal-everywhere 18-inch), which might be illegal where you are or require a permit of some kind.
http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/tactical/shotguns/model-870-express-tactical-blackhawk.aspx

Personally, I think the 18-inch with a normal butt-stock is plenty maneuverable, more generally useful, and it's less likely to land your ass in prison (it's harder to look like an innocent victim who was just defending himself when the prosecution shows the jury your friggin military-style combat shotgun or your "assault rifle" that's pretty much useless, at least in their eyes, for anything but killing people).
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

notageek wrote:
Okay I meant to ask this earlier but the reason you're buying this in parts, because ...?

A friend is giving me the upper portion of the weapon. Those parts can be sent through unregulated mail. I have to get my own lower portion.

EDIT: What he's sending me: (WebP)
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wswartzendruber wrote:
notageek wrote:
Did you get it yet? No? Here's something to cheer you up: http://youtu.be/M7yyI0k4dEU

Oh no, I won't have it for about three more weeks. There's a lot more to go through to get my hands on this thing.

1. I need the local firearms licensee to fax their transcript to the Palmetto State Armory.
2. I need PSA to process that license and ship the controlled item.
3. I need to go to the local licensee to register it with the ATF and take a written exam.
4. I need to wait ten days while a background check is conducted.


Step 0: leave California.

from your location, for gun owner friendly states, the nearest in 4 directions would be Alaska, Idaho, Nevada and Oregon. Utah is also a good choice, as is Montana. Washington and California both severly restrict NFA weapons.

wswartzendruber wrote:
]* The faggotry we have in California says the barrel has to be at least 16", so it's not a real carbine.


Um, that's not totally true. What restricts that is a federal law, the National Firearms Act of 1934. anything shorter than 16" (18" shotgun) is considered a class III weapon, and requires registration and a $200 tax. from [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_the_United_States_(by_state)#California]wikipedia[/url]:

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NFA weapons restricted? Yes Yes §12220, §12020 Possession of automatic weapons or short-barreled shotguns or rifles prohibited without DOJ "Dangerous Weapons Permit"; permission rarely granted outside of film industry. Suppressors (aka silencers) prohibited. AOW's (Any Other Weapons) permitted, except for "pen guns."


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However, if you have a hardon for a short length, you can get a tactical version of it, which has a collapsable stock, pistol grip, and is matte black. That's also available with a 14-inch barrel (instead of the legal-everywhere 18-inch), which might be illegal where you are or require a permit of some kind.


Personally, I think a 14" shotgun is the ideal Home Defense Weapon. my concern with any long arm is it being long enough to grab when going around corners. however, as you noted,

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less likely to land your ass in prison (it's harder to look like an innocent victim who was just defending himself when the prosecution shows the jury your friggin military-style combat shotgun or your "assault rifle" that's pretty much useless, at least in their eyes, for anything but killing people).


Just ask Harry Beckwithor Gary Fadden.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would like to direct your attention to the top-left.

http://www.calguns.net/caawid/flowchart.pdf

How do you get around that?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you on a mission, or crusade for that matter?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wswartzendruber wrote:
I would like to direct your attention to the top-left.

http://www.calguns.net/caawid/flowchart.pdf

How do you get around that?


Bah, i hate PDF. annoying format. however, the referenced law in that page only reaffims what I said. The law is a reaffirmation and extension of parts of the NFA, GCA and FOPA

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I looked into this some more. It seems that if you give someone in authority a blowjob, they might sign off on your Class III paperwork. You also have to pay $200.

Yeah...fuck that.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wildhorse wrote:
Are you on a mission, or crusade for that matter?

What the hell? Who let you in here?

Anyway, yeah, I'm on a mission. I'm gonna murder epic babiez. :roll:
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

not sure if this is CA legal, but may be a good choice.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've already put my order in. But thanks.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wswartzendruber wrote:
wildhorse wrote:
Are you on a mission, or crusade for that matter?

What the hell? Who let you in here?
And who let you out?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go play Pink Matador in the street.
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Go play Pink Rangers in the streets.
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