Gentoo Forums
Gentoo Forums
Gentoo Forums
Quick Search: in
Better inglish than me ?
View unanswered posts
View posts from last 24 hours

 
Reply to topic    Gentoo Forums Forum Index Off the Wall
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
patrix_neo
Guru
Guru


Joined: 08 Jan 2004
Posts: 382
Location: Svedala

PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 9:05 pm    Post subject: Better inglish than me ? Reply with quote

She opened and glued daughter - get 99 years in prison
Ad:
Past Articles

Mom glued daughter in Wall | 08 Oct

23-year-old Elizabeth Escalona struck his daughter hard, and glued her hands to the wall when she refused to use the potty.

Now, more children the mother had her conviction for the brutal beatings.

Penalty: 99 years in prison.
Email

The assault took off last autumn when Elizabeth Escalona from Texas in the U.S. got tired of her two year old daughter malfunctioned when she would go on the potty. The 23-year-old mother has been in the interrogation admitted that she kicked her daughter in the stomach and beat her over the head with what she interrogations calls a "milk jug". After the beating she firmly glued daughter's hands to the wall with super glue.

The assault led to unconsciousness, and her daughter had to stay in hospital for a week. At the hospital it was found that she had severe bruising, her brain had swollen, she had broken several ribs and both lungs and the liver damaged by abuse. In addition, large areas of the skin of her hands severed when she tried to get loose from the wall, state news agency AP.
"Man in shambles"

Elizabeth Escalona admitted she was guilty of the crime, which are classified as child abuse, in July. Among other things, her own mother, Ofelia Escalona, ​​testified against her in court, then it is she who has primary responsibility for Elizabeth's children. Meanwhile, Grandma asked for a considerate treatment of his daughter, also 23-year-old lawyer has argued:

- She was like an impending accident. A man in the rubble of a difficult childhood bordered by drug use, abuse and socializing with members of the criminal gang, said Escalonas attorney, said the AP.

The judge consented not, and raised the penalty, which was previously expected to get 45 years in prison, to 99 years in prison:

- The recommendation of 45 years for a person who would take responsibility for what she did, and understand the damage she caused, the judge said in his closing argument, explaining that the long sentence is also a way to protect Elizabeth Escalonas children, upgger AP.

Punishment in sweden: 6 years and a good job
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Bones McCracker
Veteran
Veteran


Joined: 14 Mar 2006
Posts: 1569
Location: U.S.A.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They shouldn't give the children to the grandmother, unless it's the paternal grandmother. Abuse runs in families; while it defies logic, most abusers were abused themselves. So, the last thing the court should do is put the child in the custody of the mother's mother, who probably abused her own daughter to begin with.
_________________
"The accumulation of all power, legislative, executive, and judiciary in the same hands...may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny."
--James Madison, Federalist 46
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Mardok45
n00b
n00b


Joined: 21 Jun 2008
Posts: 64
Location: Right behind you

PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm uneasy about Sweden's penal system, but it's probably the best thing to do.

For every person that spends a lifetime in prison, you could have sent someone to Harvard for eight years. That's money coming out of everyone's pockets in taxes.

Had she been given 45 years, there's a 50% chance she would have gone straight back. We're gathering all of America's hardened, unfeeling criminals into one designated area, and what's one to expect when a criminal serves his/her time and gets back out?

They're probably not in the best state-of-mind when they're just turned loose. They can't get a job because they have to put 'Convicted felon' on their resume. They probably won't be able to get a job anyway since they have no experience, or their experience is outdated. They have no money. So, what's one to do? How do you get out of that hole?

So yeah, maybe attempting to rehabilitate and make them a productive member of society would be the better route.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Bones McCracker
Veteran
Veteran


Joined: 14 Mar 2006
Posts: 1569
Location: U.S.A.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We should just deport them all to some shit-hole. We take Madagascar, ring it in mines, and just drop them all off there.
_________________
"The accumulation of all power, legislative, executive, and judiciary in the same hands...may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny."
--James Madison, Federalist 46
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
John-Boy
Guru
Guru


Joined: 23 Jun 2004
Posts: 439
Location: Desperately seeking moksha in all the wrong places

PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Victorians knew how to deal with cases like this.
_________________
Easy .. easy .. easy
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
patrix_neo
Guru
Guru


Joined: 08 Jan 2004
Posts: 382
Location: Svedala

PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mardok45 wrote:
I'm uneasy about Sweden's penal system, but it's probably the best thing to do.

For every person that spends a lifetime in prison, you could have sent someone to Harvard for eight years. That's money coming out of everyone's pockets in taxes.

Had she been given 45 years, there's a 50% chance she would have gone straight back. We're gathering all of America's hardened, unfeeling criminals into one designated area, and what's one to expect when a criminal serves his/her time and gets back out?

They're probably not in the best state-of-mind when they're just turned loose. They can't get a job because they have to put 'Convicted felon' on their resume. They probably won't be able to get a job anyway since they have no experience, or their experience is outdated. They have no money. So, what's one to do? How do you get out of that hole?

So yeah, maybe attempting to rehabilitate and make them a productive member of society would be the better route.


I understand your sentiment, cudos. I can't see it though. You have all kinds of people. Very dirty ones. You should have need a drug to alter their brains to be a 'better' person.
And, since you cannot judge whom is whom. I have a hard time see how things would be better with them in a society.

Still, labrats...We need those. It's cold and harsh but you need to study to be able to control a less than better behaviour.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Reply to topic    Gentoo Forums Forum Index Off the Wall All times are GMT
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum