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BonezTheGoon
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BoneKracker wrote:
Learning to fly would be a good choice, I think.
. . .
I suppose investing might be a more productive thing to have mastery of.


Both learning to fly and investing assumes that there is a civilization to facilitate such things. I tried to make my decision on something that came without such dependencies to be useful.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How to survive as a hunter/gatherer/on farming and animal husbandry.

Shit is going down. Can't hurt to be prepared. And at the end there is no difference between butchering a pig and those mongolian hordes.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 3:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

petrjanda wrote:
Sense of accomplishment is the key to wanting to know more.
No, it isn't. I want to know more about tons of things. Well beyond the time I have to allot. Lacking the time to do them all, I have to be selective. I don't believe I'm alone in that regard.

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For example, you learn italian. Nice. If you don't feel like you have accomplished something, you'll just stop at that and probably forget it in the next 12 months if you don't practice it. But if you feel you've accomplished something, you might then move to learn Spanish. Sense of accomplishment drives us humans to want to know more and achieve ever greater goals.
To start with, I'm not going to learn a language I'm never going to use. See my previous statement. In theory, I think it might be "fun" to learn various languages. Since I'm almost certainly NEVER going to use them, I'm almost guaranteed to forget them (as you suggest). Since I'm unlikely to ever use them, and I'm nearly guaranteed to forget most of it, it makes less than zero sense to spend the time "learning" it in the first place. For the record, I have at various times been interested in: Russian, Japanese, Gaelic, Latin, Klingon. (Note that I took German and did horribly at it, so all of that is moot, but it was your example.)

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Also, if you feel like you have accomplished something, you're more likely to remember what you learnt during the following years because you'll keep reminding your self that accomplishment.
I'm not arguing against the merits of actually accomplishing something. Just that as a means to an ends. (See "Gold Star" in response to BK below.)
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 3:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BoneKracker wrote:
I'd say that, if it's really true (which I doubt), then they ought to get some psychotherapy, or they will probably never develop into a self-actualized person.
Why is self-worth / self-identity / whatever you're trying to call it based on doing something solely for the sense of accomplishment? That seems like a waste of time and Everybody Gets a Gold Star Syndrome.

To clarify, I can think of no time or activity I engaged in for the sole purpose of getting a Gold Star. I even thought Gold Stars were stupid when I was in grades in which they were given.

Feel free to expound on your armchair psychiatric evaluation. It might be entertaining.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

energyman76b wrote:
How to survive as a hunter/gatherer/on farming and animal husbandry.

Shit is going down. Can't hurt to be prepared. And at the end there is no difference between butchering a pig and those mongolian hordes.


See that's more what I was going for, but I feel like I have the majority of that knowledge already (not the vast majority, just a sufficient majority) and so I chose something I thought would augment that well.

I nominate this as the most interesting thread BK has ever created, BTW.
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