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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 2:04 am    Post subject: A divided Germany, once again? Reply with quote

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/27/world/europe/bavaria-political-shifts-could-have-wide-effects.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all&
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 2:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Secession is always a good idea.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 4:04 am    Post subject: Re: A divided Germany, once again? Reply with quote

NotQuiteSane wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/27/world/europe/bavaria-political-shifts-could-have-wide-effects.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all&
Took too long to get to anything meaningful.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 6:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wait. Explain what's happening in terms I can understand. Which one is the Obama, and which one is the one that everyone calls a witch?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bavaria is tired of the rest of Germany, especially energyman76b and his no-sense-of-humor, anally retentive friends, leeching off them, not to mention the PIIGS.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We've had 5 elections under MMP so far. There seems to be a trend, in that , generally, smaller parties that find favour and get over the 5% threshold tend (or get an MP into government) to get beaten back down in the following election. It's almost as if the public tend to feel as if the small parties have too much power in government, or internal small party politics tend to rip the party apart on the inside.

Is this something that's seen in Germany?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kinda. We have, however, not many small parties that get over the 5% threshhold. For years there have been CDU (conservatives), SPD (labour), FDP (liberals), Die Grünen (greens) and lately Die Linke (left wing). Die Grünen have been part of the parliament since the late 80s or early 90s, the other parties nearly since after WWII (not sure about the FDP, might have joined in later) and Die Linken came even later (naturally, since they were founded in 2007). Other than these 5, no other party has been in parliament as far as I can remember. Die Piratepartei (Pirate party) might make it into the Bundestag next year - we'll see what happens then. Probably the latter, i.e. that the party will be ripped apart from the inside.
But that's got nothing to do with the secession of Bavaria.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about a new Novemberrevolution in Bavaria? :lol:
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bavaria can always leave - after they paid back the trillions they got in help until the middle of the 80s. With interest.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

energyman76b wrote:
Bavaria can always leave - after they paid back the trillions they got in help until the middle of the 80s. With interest.
lol, yeah right. and what would you do? try to force them?

Chances are if they'd try to leave, so would at least Württemberg. I'm giving the Saarland a fair chance at trying the same, although they'd probably get swallowed by the French.
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