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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 4:01 am    Post subject: Trouble Starting X after new install (Solved) Reply with quote

Hi,

I am a newish Linux user and I've just finished a fresh installation of Gentoo and I'm trying to get X running. I've emerged xorg-server and everything builds fine but when I type startx there is an error. Before I list the contents of the Xorg log file let me mention that I read the X Server Configuration HOWTO but skipped the first part about kernel support. I did this for two reasons. When I installed gentoo I used genkernel and my understanding is that this will generate the same kernel as the default on the rescue CD. My reasoning was that since X runs on the rescue CD my genkerneled kernel must have everything that I need for X. My other reason was more practical: frankly I didn't understand a lot of what I was reading in that part of the howto. In any event here is my log file:

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X.Org X Server 1.13.0
Release Date: 2012-09-05
[ 41.776] X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
[ 41.776] Build Operating System: Linux 3.5.7-gentoo x86_64 Gentoo
[ 41.776] Current Operating System: Linux t430i 3.5.7-gentoo #1 SMP Thu Nov 29 10:56:44 MST 2012 x86_64
[ 41.777] Kernel command line: real_root=/dev/sda3
[ 41.777] Build Date: 30 November 2012 01:14:22PM
[ 41.777]
[ 41.777] Current version of pixman: 0.28.0
[ 41.777] Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
[ 41.777] Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
[ 41.778] (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Fri Nov 30 13:34:42 2012
[ 41.810] (==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d"
[ 41.820] (==) No Layout section. Using the first Screen section.
[ 41.820] (==) No screen section available. Using defaults.
[ 41.820] (**) |-->Screen "Default Screen Section" (0)
[ 41.820] (**) | |-->Monitor "<default monitor>"
[ 41.820] (==) No monitor specified for screen "Default Screen Section".
Using a default monitor configuration.
[ 41.820] (==) Automatically adding devices
[ 41.820] (==) Automatically enabling devices
[ 41.820] (==) Automatically adding GPU devices
[ 41.820] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/misc/" does not exist.
[ 41.820] Entry deleted from font path.
[ 41.820] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/TTF/" does not exist.
[ 41.820] Entry deleted from font path.
[ 41.820] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/OTF/" does not exist.
[ 41.820] Entry deleted from font path.
[ 41.820] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/Type1/" does not exist.
[ 41.820] Entry deleted from font path.
[ 41.820] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/" does not exist.
[ 41.820] Entry deleted from font path.
[ 41.820] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/" does not exist.
[ 41.820] Entry deleted from font path.
[ 41.820] (==) FontPath set to:

[ 41.820] (==) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib64/xorg/modules"
[ 41.820] (II) The server relies on udev to provide the list of input devices.
If no devices become available, reconfigure udev or disable AutoAddDevices.
[ 41.820] (II) Loader magic: 0x80dc00
[ 41.820] (II) Module ABI versions:
[ 41.820] X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4
[ 41.820] X.Org Video Driver: 13.0
[ 41.820] X.Org XInput driver : 18.0
[ 41.820] X.Org Server Extension : 7.0
[ 41.822] (--) PCI:*(0:0:2:0) 8086:0116:17aa:21f4 rev 9, Mem @ 0xf1400000/4194304, 0xe0000000/268435456, I/O @ 0x00006000/64
[ 41.822] (--) PCI: (0:1:0:0) 10de:0def:17aa:21f4 rev 161, Mem @ 0xf0000000/16777216, 0xc0000000/268435456, 0xd0000000/33554432, I/O @ 0x00005000/128, BIOS @ 0x????????/524288
[ 41.822] (WW) Open ACPI failed (/var/run/acpid.socket) (No such file or directory)
[ 41.823] Initializing built-in extension Generic Event Extension
[ 41.823] Initializing built-in extension SHAPE
[ 41.823] Initializing built-in extension MIT-SHM
[ 41.823] Initializing built-in extension XInputExtension
[ 41.823] Initializing built-in extension XTEST
[ 41.823] Initializing built-in extension BIG-REQUESTS
[ 41.823] Initializing built-in extension SYNC
[ 41.823] Initializing built-in extension XKEYBOARD
[ 41.823] Initializing built-in extension XC-MISC
[ 41.823] Initializing built-in extension XINERAMA
[ 41.824] Initializing built-in extension XFIXES
[ 41.824] Initializing built-in extension RENDER
[ 41.824] Initializing built-in extension RANDR
[ 41.824] Initializing built-in extension COMPOSITE
[ 41.824] Initializing built-in extension DAMAGE
[ 41.824] Initializing built-in extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
[ 41.824] Initializing built-in extension DOUBLE-BUFFER
[ 41.824] Initializing built-in extension RECORD
[ 41.824] Initializing built-in extension DPMS
[ 41.825] Initializing built-in extension X-Resource
[ 41.825] Initializing built-in extension XVideo
[ 41.825] Initializing built-in extension XVideo-MotionCompensation
[ 41.826] Initializing built-in extension XFree86-VidModeExtension
[ 41.826] Initializing built-in extension XFree86-DGA
[ 41.826] Initializing built-in extension XFree86-DRI
[ 41.827] Initializing built-in extension DRI2
[ 41.827] (II) LoadModule: "glx"
[ 41.827] (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so
[ 41.840] (II) Module glx: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[ 41.840] compiled for 1.13.0, module version = 1.0.0
[ 41.840] ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 7.0
[ 41.840] (==) AIGLX enabled
[ 41.841] Loading extension GLX
[ 41.841] (==) Matched intel as autoconfigured driver 0
[ 41.841] (==) Matched vesa as autoconfigured driver 1
[ 41.841] (==) Matched modesetting as autoconfigured driver 2
[ 41.841] (==) Matched fbdev as autoconfigured driver 3
[ 41.841] (==) Assigned the driver to the xf86ConfigLayout
[ 41.841] (II) LoadModule: "intel"
[ 41.862] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module intel
[ 41.862] (II) UnloadModule: "intel"
[ 41.862] (II) Unloading intel
[ 41.862] (EE) Failed to load module "intel" (module does not exist, 0)
[ 41.862] (II) LoadModule: "vesa"
[ 41.862] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module vesa
[ 41.862] (II) UnloadModule: "vesa"
[ 41.862] (II) Unloading vesa
[ 41.862] (EE) Failed to load module "vesa" (module does not exist, 0)
[ 41.862] (II) LoadModule: "modesetting"
[ 41.862] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module modesetting
[ 41.862] (II) UnloadModule: "modesetting"
[ 41.862] (II) Unloading modesetting
[ 41.862] (EE) Failed to load module "modesetting" (module does not exist, 0)
[ 41.862] (II) LoadModule: "fbdev"
[ 41.862] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module fbdev
[ 41.862] (II) UnloadModule: "fbdev"
[ 41.862] (II) Unloading fbdev
[ 41.862] (EE) Failed to load module "fbdev" (module does not exist, 0)
[ 41.862] (EE) No drivers available.
[ 41.862]
Fatal server error:
[ 41.862] no screens found
[ 41.863] (EE)
Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support
at http://wiki.x.org
for help.
[ 41.863] (EE) Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for additional information.
[ 41.863] (EE)



I suspect the kernel module stuff is the issue but I only have a vague idea of what a kernel module is and no idea of which one's are supposed to load or which ones I need. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

Thanks!


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ts1971,

Did you install twm and xterm to test xorg :?:

If not install them and try again.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 6:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BillWho wrote:
ts1971,

Did you install twm and xterm to test xorg :?:

If not install them and try again.


Hi Bill. Thanks for taking the time to reply. I hadn't installed them though now I have and the results are the same. :(

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BillWho wrote:
Did you install twm and xterm to test xorg :?:


...and the point of installing those would be ?

Anyway, due to the lack of a reliably working crystal ball, we really can't tell what your hardware is.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ts1971,

We'll need additional info about the hardware, especially the display adapter, and your make.conf would help too.

Code:
lspci -k|awk '/VGA/,/Kernel/'

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ts1971,

From your log we can tell that the peferred drivers for your hardware are in order,
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[ 41.841] (==) Matched intel as autoconfigured driver 0
[ 41.841] (==) Matched vesa as autoconfigured driver 1
[ 41.841] (==) Matched modesetting as autoconfigured driver 2
[ 41.841] (==) Matched fbdev as autoconfigured driver 3

The remainder of the log says that they all failed to load. Thats probably because you built none of them.
Did you skip the instructions to set your INPUT_DEVICES and VIDEO_CARDS ?
Or maybe you did set them but to hardware you don't have?

You are mistaken about genkernel. It will not set any of the kernel options you need to support your video driver.
This is because it has no idea which driver you want to use and settings for one driver conflict with settings required for others.

Based on the above, xorg thinks the best video driver for you is the intel one. You need to build it along with the required kernel support.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks everyone for the replies. I'll try to provide you with the information you asked for here - if there's more you need just let me know :).

The machine is a Lenovo T430i. According to the invoice the System graphics are NVIDIA NVS 540M Graphics wiht Optimus Technology 1GB DDR3 Memory.

Code:

root@sysresccd /root % lspci -k | awk '/VGA/,/Kernel/'
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
   Subsystem: Lenovo Device 21f4
   Kernel driver in use: i915
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation Device 0def (rev a1)
   Subsystem: Lenovo Device 21f4
   Kernel driver in use: nouveau
root@sysresccd /root %


Code:

sysresccd / # cat /etc/portage/make.conf
# These settings were set by the catalyst build script that automatically
# built this stage.
# Please consult /usr/share/portage/config/make.conf.example for a more
# detailed example.
CFLAGS="-O2 -pipe"
CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS}"
# WARNING: Changing your CHOST is not something that should be done lightly.
# Please consult http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/change-chost.xml before changing.
CHOST="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
# These are the USE flags that were used in addition to what is provided by the
# profile used for building.
USE="mmx sse sse2"

SYNC="rsync://rsync11.us.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage"

VIDEO_CARDS="nouveau"

INPUT_DEVICES="evdev"
sysresccd / #


Let me know if there is anything else you need.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ts1971,

The best thing to do now is follow the nVidia guide http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/nvidia-guide.xml :wink:
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd be very, very careful with that guide - it was written for a desktop system, not a laptop.

Anyway, pastebin your kernel config.
In the meanwhile, set VIDEO_CARDS to "nouveau intel" and emerge xf86-video-intel.
If this is one of those hybrid laptops, kernel version will mater very much.
Post also 'emerge -1pv media-libs/mesa x11-libs/libdrm'.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ts1971,

You have two video chips maybe with a multiplexer.

The Intel one is for low lower consumption, the nVidia one is for better performance with 3D graphics.
In linux switching between them needs and Xorg restart and different xorg.conf files. Its a bit ugly at the moment.

I would choose to make the Intel one work to start with then play about with the nVidia one later.
Unless you are a gamer, you may be quite happy with the performance you get from the Intel chip anyway.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

VoidMage wrote:
I'd be very, very careful with that guide - it was written for a desktop system, not a laptop.

Anyway, pastebin your kernel config.
In the meanwhile, set VIDEO_CARDS to "nouveau intel" and emerge xf86-video-intel.
If this is one of those hybrid laptops, kernel version will mater very much.
Post also 'emerge -1pv media-libs/mesa x11-libs/libdrm'.


Okay, I've added 'intel' to VIDEO_DRIVERS and and emerged xf86-video-intel. There were no errors but near the end of the emerge output there was a message notifying me that 'this driver requires KMS support in your kernel'. It doesn't say that I don't have that support in my kernel but I guess that that is the implication? I know next to nothing about building linux kernels and built mine with 'genkernel all'. Just for fun I tried startx again but of course I get the same error.

A couple of follow up questions (to you or anyone else) so I can post the rest of my stuff.

(1) where exactly is is the kernel config file. I know that it's somewhere under /usr/linux/src but I'm not sure exactly where / which file it is.

(2) I'm not familiar with pastebin (though I just googled around to learn what it was) is there some particular site I should use for these forums?

(3) What's the easiest way to move files from my new linux installation to my windows box so that I can include them in my posts. I've been rebooting to the rescue cd and posting to the forums that way but rebooting everytime i want to make a post is a hassle. I have been away from linux for six or seven years but I recall using samba to do this. It looks like I don't' have samba installed. emerge --search samba returns a number of packages and I'm not sure which one I need. I just want to bout able to 'mount -t smbfs ....' Or is there a simpler way?

Thanks a lot for your help.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NeddySeagoon wrote:
ts1971,

You have two video chips maybe with a multiplexer.

The Intel one is for low lower consumption, the nVidia one is for better performance with 3D graphics.
In linux switching between them needs and Xorg restart and different xorg.conf files. Its a bit ugly at the moment.

I would choose to make the Intel one work to start with then play about with the nVidia one later.
Unless you are a gamer, you may be quite happy with the performance you get from the Intel chip anyway.


That's interesting. I had no idea I had two chips and have no idea why I would. I took a look at the invoice (it's a new machine) and it only mentions the NVIDIA card. And I am about as far from a gamer as it's possible to be. I'm just trying to get this up and running in an effort to learn Linux and hopefully eventually migrate my work (I'm a developer) to it. At least to the greatest extent possible.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As for pastebin, use any publicly accessible site you like.
As for kernel config, it should be /usr/src/linux/.config (or - with the right kernel config - /proc/config.gz).
As for the moves, sys-fs/ntfs3g should be sufficient in most of the cases, though it requires proper kernel config.
ssh isn't that hard to set up either, then putty from windows will work nicely too.

IIRC, 'genkernel --menuconfig' is the switch, though I don't use genkernel.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ts1971,

Code:
emerge wgetpaste


Then
Code:
wgetpaste /path/to/file
puts file on the web and gives you a URL to it.
or
Code:
command | wgetpaste
does the same thing for the output of command.

The kernel .config file is at /usr/src/linux/.config

Genkernel does not set up KMS for you.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NeddySeagoon wrote:
ts1971,

Code:
emerge wgetpaste


Then
Code:
wgetpaste /path/to/file
puts file on the web and gives you a URL to it.
or
Code:
command | wgetpaste
does the same thing for the output of command.

The kernel .config file is at /usr/src/linux/.config

Genkernel does not set up KMS for you.


Thanks Neddy. It worked like a charm. (and didn't require me to add some kind of support to my kernel!)

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VoidMage wrote:
I'd be very, very careful with that guide - it was written for a desktop system, not a laptop.

Anyway, pastebin your kernel config.
In the meanwhile, set VIDEO_CARDS to "nouveau intel" and emerge xf86-video-intel.
If this is one of those hybrid laptops, kernel version will mater very much.
Post also 'emerge -1pv media-libs/mesa x11-libs/libdrm'.


Okay. Here is my kernel config: http://bpaste.net/show/61740/ And here is the other stuff you asked for: http://bpaste.net/show/61745

Am I right to assume that my next step is to figure out how to build a kernel with KMS support and try to emerge the xf86 intell stuff again?

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, the beauty defconfig is not...
First, for x11-libs/libdrm add libkms, reemerge media-libs/mesa.
Now for the immediate kernel options: (little note: don't have a laptop, so a few of the will be guesses) we're trying with nouveau first, so CONFIG_VGA_SWITCHEROO, CONFIG_DRM_NOUVEAU, CONFIG_DRM_I915_KMS, CONFIG_FB_VESA=n.
Just don't edit that file manually, use menuconfig.

On a generic note: you'd probably want to trim your kernel, a lot...
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VoidMage wrote:
First, for x11-libs/libdrm add libkms, reemerge media-libs/mesa.


I just want to make sure that I don't do anything stupid. I should add 'libkms' to my USE variable in /etc/portage/make.conf right? And to reemerge, I just issue the emerge cammand again as though it weren't already installed?

VoidMage wrote:
On a generic note: you'd probably want to trim your kernel, a lot...


For sure. As soon as I get half a clue of what I'm doing :)

One last question, what does the -1 argument you gave to emerge earlier do? I had a quick look at the emerge documentation - so much to learn - but it wasn't obvious to me.

Thanks again.

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To most of those questions: 'man portage', 'man emerge'.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 5:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lets make it a little easier:

ts1971 wrote:
I just want to make sure that I don't do anything stupid. I should add 'libkms' to my USE variable in /etc/portage/make.conf right? And to reemerge, I just issue the emerge cammand again as though it weren't already installed?

You would probably want to use -uDN, but check man emerge to see what that means :wink:

ts1971 wrote:
One last question, what does the -1 argument you gave to emerge earlier do? I had a quick look at the emerge documentation - so much to learn - but it wasn't obvious to me.


Check --oneshot while you're in man emerge :wink:
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VoidMage wrote:
Ah, the beauty defconfig is not...
First, for x11-libs/libdrm add libkms, reemerge media-libs/mesa.
Now for the immediate kernel options: (little note: don't have a laptop, so a few of the will be guesses) we're trying with nouveau first, so CONFIG_VGA_SWITCHEROO, CONFIG_DRM_NOUVEAU, CONFIG_DRM_I915_KMS, CONFIG_FB_VESA=n.
Just don't edit that file manually, use menuconfig.

On a generic note: you'd probably want to trim your kernel, a lot...


Hopefully I made the correct changes to the kernel config. For DRM_NOUVEAU it forced me to build a module because some other feature on which it depends was build as a module. I assume that this is okay. Also, I wasn't able to turn off the main entry for Framebuffer support. Presumably this is related to something else I have enabled, though there was no message - it just wouldn't let me do it. Instead I disabled the two enabled entries on the frame buffer sub menu.

After compiling the kernel and rebooting I added libkms to make.conf and issued the command

Code:

emerge x11-libs/libdrm media-libs/mesa



and then finally startx again and it looks like it's working :) Thanks a million voidmage and Bill and the rest who contributed. I would have taken me weeks to figure this all out on my own.
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