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Pennypacker n00b

Joined: 10 Jul 2012 Posts: 6
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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 9:54 pm Post subject: Oss4 seems allright! |
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Just wanted to express my happiness with oss4.
I tried installing it in the past, i could not get it to work then. (forgot what went wrong)
I gave it another try today..It all installed ok, via the overlay. Very good sound quality!
Until today, i had to switch to windows for best hifi sound. This is no longer the case.
Vlc, mplayer2, ffmpeg, audacious all working fine.
Using asus-ST card with sennh. hd600.
I guess there are still some compatibility-issues with some programs, but these don't seem to affect me much. |
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PaulBredbury Watchman


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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:46 am Post subject: |
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| Pennypacker wrote: | | i had to switch to windows for best hifi sound |
Since the HD600 are headphones, did you try bs2b while in ALSA? _________________ Improve your font rendering and ALSA sound |
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Pennypacker n00b

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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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No, i did not try bsb2 with alsa, so i can't really say anything about it. I just read about it, the theory behind it seems plausible.
My experience however is, (& i have a lot of hours listening to headphones with different sound-cards) that no plug-in/effect etc. sounds good to me. Just stereo, with a little eq in windows (i find the bass too heavy/dominant without eq in windows with this op-amp/card/phone). With the hd595 the flat eq mode is just right for me.
No cross-feed, crystalizer, cms3d (on xfi, an awful effect for music, not games), Dolby headphone etc. I hate it all.
And it is not my goal to talk bad about alsa. I used it until now (& i will probably use it again if when "upgrading", oss4
doesn't seem to work again for some reason).
Alsa has always worked without trouble.
But: comparing to windows & oss4 it sounded: more flat, more dry, just more "dead". |
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khayyam Veteran


Joined: 07 Jun 2012 Posts: 1268
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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Pennypacker ...
I also have Sennheiser HD600 and generally don't like any kind of filtering, however I was impressed with bs2b, its somewhat of a subtle experience, and I now find stereo in headphones "distracting" (at least thats the only description I can come up with).
best ... khay |
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PaulBredbury Watchman


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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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In the OSS4 configuration, did you specify headphones?
Maybe OSS4 automatically applies something bs2b-like? |
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Pennypacker n00b

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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, maybe there is something like bs2b already included in the windows or oss4 drivers..
I just selected "headphone" in ossxmix "CMedia CMI8788" x-panel. There was no need for much configuration-file editing.
Looking at /usr/lib64/oss/etc/devices.list, i see that all xonar cards, except the ST, have an entry in there.
Guess i'm using the "stock" cmi8788 driver, which works fine.
Choosing between the 3 headphone-gain settings is not (yet?) possible, but i don't mind this.
The "field of sound" is a little different from windows..there seems to be a bit more bass, but not in a fatiguing way.
Still i would like to be able to turn the bass lower.. |
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PaulBredbury Watchman


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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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Is there a "normal speakers" output selection, that you can test? If it sounds "more dead" through headphones, then we have the answer  |
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aCOSwt Advocate


Joined: 19 Oct 2007 Posts: 2042 Location: Between the keyboard and the chair
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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Is OSS4 MIDI capable ?
I left FreeBSD for my desktop a couple of years ago because FreeBSD was OSSonly and OSS was not MIDI capable. _________________ In theory there are no differences between theory and practice. In practice, there are.
Don't try to understand my posts. Immanuel Kant never did, he thinks that only music and laughter do not have to mean anything. |
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franzf Advocate


Joined: 29 Mar 2005 Posts: 3562 Location: Irgendwo im Nirgendwo
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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| aCOSwt wrote: | Is OSS4 MIDI capable ?
I left FreeBSD for my desktop a couple of years ago because FreeBSD was OSSonly and OSS was not MIDI capable. |
timidity did not work? _________________ "der mac dennoch wesen geil"
Wolfram von Eschenbach, Parzival (Buch 1, Z. 7).
Ein frühes Statement gegen Windows.
My overlay |
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John R. Graham Administrator


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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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Moved from Multimedia to Unsupported Software. I was reminded by one of the developers that Oss4 is not yet in the official tree, so this thread fits better here.
- John _________________ This space intentionally left blank. |
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aCOSwt Advocate


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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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| franzf wrote: | | aCOSwt wrote: | Is OSS4 MIDI capable ?
I left FreeBSD for my desktop a couple of years ago because FreeBSD was OSSonly and OSS was not MIDI capable. |
timidity did not work? |
Oh yes it does, well I mean it can play a midi file but it just cannot honestly manage the MIDI port of your hardware device => The plugging of a keyboard or any MIDI aware external instrument is simply impossible. In some rare cases you can but must face so huge latencies that you'll just give up. _________________ In theory there are no differences between theory and practice. In practice, there are.
Don't try to understand my posts. Immanuel Kant never did, he thinks that only music and laughter do not have to mean anything. |
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disi Veteran


Joined: 28 Nov 2003 Posts: 1351 Location: Out There ...
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tclover Apprentice

Joined: 10 Apr 2011 Posts: 295
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:19 pm Post subject: old ebuilds? |
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I have newer ebuild in my overlay plus a live one (a failure to clone the mercurial repo is not an exception, syncing to it is already too much hassle). Anyway, 4.2.2006 is available. _________________ mkinitramfs-ll:topic 879125::(bar-)overlay:topic 889918 |
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PaulBredbury Watchman


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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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Another way to improve the ALSA output seems to be to compile mpg123 with --enable-int-quality, as done in Arch. I notice that Gentoo doesn't have this option - someone wanna file a bug? (I'm not a Gentoo user.)
mpg123 is used by both mplayer and audacious, which the OP mentions. |
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Dorsai! Apprentice


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Pennypacker n00b

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Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 2:25 pm Post subject: a little addendum |
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I just upgraded to kernel 3.5 & audacious 3.3. (with, as before, oss-devel-9999)
Could i be imagining things?..but my opinion is, that music quality has improved again.
Quality is superb now, i think. (most stereo headphone listening).
Very good, Thank you devs! -) |
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