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notageek Tux's lil' helper


Joined: 05 Jun 2008 Posts: 78 Location: Bangalore, India
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Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:07 pm Post subject: Andrew S. Tanenbaum and his electoral-vote.com |
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http://electoral-vote.com/
This is a website written and maintained by AST. I've followed previous elections on this website.
Enjoy! _________________ What looks like a cat, flies like a bat, brays like a donkey, and plays like a monkey? |
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pjp Administrator


Joined: 16 Apr 2002 Posts: 16029 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not convinced Colorado will go to Obama, but that doesn't change much.
If nothing else, this election should indicate whether or not the state has shifted, or whether not they're willing to vote for their "best candidate."
1992 Clinton (because of Perot's ~23%)
1996 Dole (despite Perot's ~6.5%)
2000 Bush (by 8%, or 3% if you give Nader's to Gore)
2004 Bush (by 4%)
2008 Obama (by 9%)
So in any meaningful way, Obama was the first recent win for Democrats in Colorado. And that seems reasonable to be a knee-jerk.
Previously: Bush 41, Reagan x2, Ford, Nixon x2. You have to go back to Johnson for the last Democrat, and that seems likely to have been an anomaly.
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Also noteworthy is that the site you reference shows Romney picking up 3 states: IN, IA & NC. I'd expect a few more to topple his way, but still not necessarily enough to make it close. He'll have to win FL. _________________ lolgov. 'cause where we're going, you don't have civil liberties.
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notageek Tux's lil' helper


Joined: 05 Jun 2008 Posts: 78 Location: Bangalore, India
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Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:16 am Post subject: |
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This website had correctly predicted election outcomes in the past. _________________ What looks like a cat, flies like a bat, brays like a donkey, and plays like a monkey? |
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pjp Administrator


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Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 3:01 am Post subject: |
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I'll be curious to see how it changes over time. _________________ lolgov. 'cause where we're going, you don't have civil liberties.
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zenlunatic Guru

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Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 3:29 am Post subject: |
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| But... why? A CS Professor from the Netherlands makes a US political site... bizarre. |
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notageek Tux's lil' helper


Joined: 05 Jun 2008 Posts: 78 Location: Bangalore, India
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Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 4:24 am Post subject: |
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He's American. Works in Netherlands. _________________ What looks like a cat, flies like a bat, brays like a donkey, and plays like a monkey? |
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sikpuppy n00b


Joined: 12 Jun 2012 Posts: 23 Location: Central Coast, NSW
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Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 6:03 am Post subject: |
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| notageek wrote: | | He's American. Works in Netherlands. |
President Clinton was into interns netherlands. Is it him under a pseudonym? |
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Joined: 07 Aug 2004 Posts: 579 Location: Morrinsville, New Zealand
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pjp Administrator


Joined: 16 Apr 2002 Posts: 16029 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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Carter vs. Reagan, supposedly as late as the end of October, had Carter winning by a large margin. As well, Carter supposedly had more money.
But let me be clear, as I've said all along, Romney is no Reagan.
And this site may be interested in accuracy more than mainstream media. Doesn't seem to have any update in data. The SCOTUS ruling surely had some impact. _________________ lolgov. 'cause where we're going, you don't have civil liberties.
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notageek Tux's lil' helper


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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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Says most recent poll in any state is used. http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2012/Info/map-algorithm.html
Have there been polls after the ruling?
In 2004/2008, this page trailed by a week w.r.t the current events. _________________ What looks like a cat, flies like a bat, brays like a donkey, and plays like a monkey? |
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Joined: 16 Apr 2002 Posts: 16029 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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A week doesn't seem too bad. Polls happen (seemingly) ever day, so no idea on which polls they are relying. _________________ lolgov. 'cause where we're going, you don't have civil liberties.
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notageek Tux's lil' helper


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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 1:02 pm Post subject: |
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The numbers have changed today. _________________ What looks like a cat, flies like a bat, brays like a donkey, and plays like a monkey? |
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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Darn, I didn't think to note what it was. But picking up FL is significant. _________________ lolgov. 'cause where we're going, you don't have civil liberties.
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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:42 pm Post subject: |
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The numbers have changed.
Related news from AFP : here
| Quote: | With economy stalled, Romney tied with Obama: poll
(AFP) – 38 minutes ago
WASHINGTON — Mitt Romney has drawn even with President Barack Obama in the White House race, with likely voters favoring the Republican challenger to fix the US economy, a poll showed Thursday.
The New York Times/CBS News poll showed little recent shift in attitudes toward Romney despite negative advertising by Obama's re-election campaign, which seeks to portray Romney as a wealthy elite who is out of touch with everyday Americans, and extensive criticism of his business record.
Although the results were within the margin of error, Thursday's poll marked the first time Romney showed a numerical edge, with 45 percent of respondents saying they would vote for him if the elections were held now, compared with 43 percent for Obama, The New York Times said.
The study comes during a period of slackening US job growth, with Federal Reserve chairman Ben Bernanke seeing "frustratingly slow" drops in the unemployment rate, which has hovered above eight percent for over three years. |
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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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The website is poor at making it easy to tell what has changed. CO is fading from Obama. Looks like IA is now slightly toward Obama. Not long ago, it had Romney with 241, then 212, now 235. _________________ lolgov. 'cause where we're going, you don't have civil liberties.
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notageek Tux's lil' helper


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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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It's written by a computer science professor, who probably knows all the states of America by heart. So, he's able to tell, at-glance, what has changed. But never mind that, the numbers are reasonably accurate.
There used to be a graph of some sort, if I recall, which graphed ratings to events. I can't find it now.
BTW, he's a Democrat. _________________ What looks like a cat, flies like a bat, brays like a donkey, and plays like a monkey? |
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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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Knowing all of the states isn't difficult. _________________ lolgov. 'cause where we're going, you don't have civil liberties.
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notageek Tux's lil' helper


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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:13 am Post subject: |
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You see 10 maps and they will all tell you different information. _________________ What looks like a cat, flies like a bat, brays like a donkey, and plays like a monkey? |
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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:49 am Post subject: |
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| BoneKracker wrote: | | My bottom line: it's so close it all depends on what happens between now and November. | Some of the states voting for him in '08 have to suffer buyer's remorse. Any idea if RCP lists the success rate of their predictions for previous elections?
| notageek wrote: | | You see 10 maps and they will all tell you different information. | No longer champion for the guy in this thread? :P _________________ lolgov. 'cause where we're going, you don't have civil liberties.
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notageek Tux's lil' helper


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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 6:02 am Post subject: |
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No, you misunderstand.
What I'm saying is, you see 10 maps and they will all tell you different, instead, just focus on one. AST's electoral-vote. Because he's the grandfather of Linux. _________________ What looks like a cat, flies like a bat, brays like a donkey, and plays like a monkey? |
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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 6:12 am Post subject: |
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 _________________ lolgov. 'cause where we're going, you don't have civil liberties.
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 4:23 am Post subject: |
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Bump.
Nothing seems to be happening. _________________ What looks like a cat, flies like a bat, brays like a donkey, and plays like a monkey? |
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