China dissident Chen Guangcheng 'under US protection'

pjp · Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 1:42 am Post subject:

Under the bus downtown, is where he threw Guangcheng.

Sounds like the real issue was the threat to his family. Getting him and his family out seems unlikely, though we probably won't know for certain.
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notageek · Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 1:44 am Post subject:

He has called a congressional hearing asking for help.
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notageek · Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 1:48 am Post subject:

The dissident, I meant.
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notageek · Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 2:00 am Post subject:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-17947131

Muso · Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 2:01 am Post subject:

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Ah, I see. He gave telephonic testimony at a Congressional hearing, in which he appealed for assistance and a meeting with Secretary Clinton.

notageek · Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 2:06 am Post subject:

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It's probably too late now. Obama has already thrown him to the wolves.

The only way to get him and his family out of there now is to put something else on the table they want, or threaten to break an agreement we've already made (North Korea Style) that was based on a previous agreement by them to improve human rights, under the justification that their mistreatment of Chen represents a sort of "breech of contract" on their part.
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notageek · Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 2:22 am Post subject:

I'm bet 100 qualtus, that you got the context.

In case you didn't, I called you Sarkozy.
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notageek · Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 2:32 am Post subject:

It is a Star Trek episode, not a literary masterpiece. My point, stated explicitly, is the spelling doesn't matter. And you're still being Sarkozy.
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notageek · Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 4:18 am Post subject:

I wasn't humiliated. Just that your arrogance struck me as in the same levels as that of a French emperor.
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notageek · Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 6:49 am Post subject:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-17951502

Chen can apply to study abroad.
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pjp · Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 9:28 pm Post subject:

I'd been wondering if this was all designed to save face for China.

They win by getting him back, then they win by allowing him to leave. Plus the bonus win by no longer having a rabble-rouser on their hands that they have to imprison or get rid of.
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notageek · Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 6:46 am Post subject:

Okay, since nobody asked, I'll ask.

So, how is this blind man such a threat to the Chinese? He was in house arrest all this while. Why is the US so interested in this?

I guess, the answer to first one is, he's not a threat. He's inconsequential.
For two, it's Obama's election year, silly.
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Muso · Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 6:54 am Post subject:

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The Chinese Communist Party (the authoritarians who run the state and still call themselves communist), are terrified of being overthrown. They know the country is a billion and a half people getting fucked over by a few million in a privileged class. They don't want anybody pointing this out to the unwashed masses, who, if they ever smartened up and revolted, would tear them limb from limb.

At the same time, they are a very proud people and sensitive to derogatory outside perceptions. So, while they feel it necessary to their survival and part of the their "unique" way of life, they don't want the outside world to know about their internal abuses.
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