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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:55 pm    Post subject: Strong problem with GRUB (almost solved) Reply with quote

Hello,

On my main machine, I had the following setup.

----
IDE :
sda1 : 320 GB data
sda2 : 15 MB Gentoo boot

sdb1 : 40 GB Ubuntu
sdb2 : 1.5 GB swap

SCSI :

sdc1 : 15 MB Gentoo boot
sdc2 : 18 GB Gentoo
sdc3 : 22 GB data

---

sdb is the disk used to boot, using Ubuntu Grub2 with a multi boot. Unfortunately, this disk corrupts it's data in case of power faillure and last time, corrupted even Grub.
After booting with Ubuntu liveCD, I was able to do a chkfs and was able to boot again on Ubuntu ... but grub failled to boot Gentoo saying it can't find sdc1 disk by it's UUID.

I wasn't able to re-install Grub as my Ubuntu was deprecated so I decided to upgrade to the LTS ...

Reboot and ... now it is not anymore to boot :
  • booting on Ubuntu (so /sdb1) :
    Quote:
    mount : mounting /dev/disk/by-uuid/6493890... on /root failled : invalid argument

  • booting on Gentoo (/sdc2)
    Quote:
    error : no such device hd2,1 cannot get C/H/S value



Unfortunately, my scsi controler can't boot, so using Gparted, I created /sda2 and copy /sdc2 on it (Gentoo boot partition).
From Gentoo install CD, I chrooted on Gentoo and tried to install GRUB on (hd0) but boot is failling as well :x

  • with
    Code:
    root (hd0,1)
    (so /sda2) -> Error 17
  • with
    Code:
    root (hd2,0)
    (so /sdc1) -> Error 21


I tried everything I found on the net w/o success :
  • Code:
    find /boot/grub/stage1
    displays both (hd0,1) and (hd2,0) so I think the path is correct
  • as per fdisk, partitions are in the correct orders on all disks ...


I really don't know to do now ???? I'm lost (and I hate Grub :evil: ).
Any help greatly appreciated.

Laurent


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 9:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Strong problem with GRUB Reply with quote

destroyedlolo wrote:


  • with
    Code:
    root (hd0,1)
    (so /sda2) -> Error 17
  • with
    Code:
    root (hd2,0)
    (so /sdc1) -> Error 21


With Grub2, the numbering scheme to identify the partitions changed.

hd0 is still sda, but the second parameter starts at '1' now instead of '0'.

So /dev/sda2 would be (hd0,2), and /dev/sdc1 would be (hd2,1).

(hd0,1) is your data drive, so that would explain that error. And (hd2,0) doesn't exist in Grub2.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

unfortunately, no because it's Grub1 I installed on Gentoo :(
So those numbers reflect my partitions.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It might be worthwhile to confirm that grub is seeing your partition order in the same way as fdisk.

When you get your Grub1 menu during boot, hit the "c" key. This will give you a command menu.

Run:
Code:
geometry (hd0)
geometry (hd1)
geometry (hd2)

See if that matches what fdisk is reporting.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Code:
livecd / # fdisk -l

Disque /dev/sda��: 320.1��Go, 320072933376 octets
255 t��tes, 63 secteurs/piste, 38913 cylindres, total 625142448 secteurs
Unit��s = secteurs de 1 * 512 = 512 octets
Taille de secteur (logique / physique)��: 512��octets / 512��octets
taille d'E/S (minimale / optimale)��: 512��octets / 512��octets
Identifiant de disque��: 0x000a44cc

P��riph��rique Amorce  D��but        Fin      Blocs     Id  Syst��me
/dev/sda1              63   625105214   312552576   83  Linux
/dev/sda2       625105215   625137344       16065   83  Linux

Disque /dev/sdb��: 41.0��Go, 40982151168 octets
255 t��tes, 63 secteurs/piste, 4982 cylindres, total 80043264 secteurs
Unit��s = secteurs de 1 * 512 = 512 octets
Taille de secteur (logique / physique)��: 512��octets / 512��octets
taille d'E/S (minimale / optimale)��: 512��octets / 512��octets
Identifiant de disque��: 0xc03ae53d

P��riph��rique Amorce  D��but        Fin      Blocs     Id  Syst��me
/dev/sdb1   *          63    76662179    38331058+  83  Linux
/dev/sdb2        76662180    80035829     1686825    5  ��tendue
/dev/sdb5        76662243    80035829     1686793+  82  partition d'��change Linux / Solaris

Disque /dev/sdc��: 73.4��Go, 73407488000 octets
254 t��tes, 63 secteurs/piste, 8959 cylindres, total 143374000 secteurs
Unit��s = secteurs de 1 * 512 = 512 octets
Taille de secteur (logique / physique)��: 512��octets / 512��octets
taille d'E/S (minimale / optimale)��: 512��octets / 512��octets
Identifiant de disque��: 0xe5f4e5f4

P��riph��rique Amorce  D��but        Fin      Blocs     Id  Syst��me
/dev/sdc1              63       32003       15970+  83  Linux
/dev/sdc2           32004    39092885    19530441   83  Linux
/dev/sdc3        39092886   143361917    52134516   83  Linux
Code:
grub> geometry (hd0)
drive 0x80: C/H/S = 0/255/63, The number of sectors = 625142448, /dev/sda
   Partition num: 0,  Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83
   Partition num: 1,  Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83

grub> geometry (hd1)
drive 0x81: C/H/S = 0/255/63, The number of sectors = 80043264, /dev/sdb
   Partition num: 0,  Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83
   Partition num: 4,  Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x82

grub> geometry (hd2)
drive 0x82: C/H/S = 0/254/63, The number of sectors = 143374000, /dev/sdc
   Partition num: 0,  Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83
   Partition num: 1,  Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83
   Partition num: 2,  Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83


Looks good isn't it ?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

destroyedlolo wrote:
Looks good isn't it ?

Yes, that all looks consistent.

Could you post the grub entries you have for booting?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Code:
default 0
timeout 30
splashimage=(hd0,1)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz

title Gentoo Stable
root (hd0,1)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-3.1.10-gentoo-r1 root=/dev/sda2

#kernel /boot/kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.24-gentoo-r5 root=/dev/ram0 real_root=/d$
#initrd /boot/initramfs-genkernel-x86-2.6.24-gentoo-r5

# vim:ft=conf:


This one produce Error 17.

If I replace to (hd2,0), I got Error 21

PS: root=/dev/sda2 is "normal". It's because my Gentoo kernel places SCSI disks before IDE ones ... so what is /dev/sda2 for Gentoo is /dev/sdc2 for Grub, Gentoo's liveCD and Ubuntu ... It was working before this crash.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let me paraphrase my understanding of Grub errors 17 and 21, and tell me if you are seeing anthing different.

Grub1 Error 17: Grub sees the partition, and it looks like Grub should know what to do with that partition, but Grub isn't able to find what it expects to find on that partition.

Grub1 Error 21: Grub is having a problem doing anything with the partition.

A common attempt to fix Error 17 would be to reinstall Grub.

A common fix for Error 21 involves finding a boot partition on another drive, and setting up your kernel and initramfs there.

Here's a couple of things you could try (they're not in order, and are all separate ideas):
(1) Double check and make sure /boot/<kernel-name> is what you want. When Grub looks at your boot partition, it doesn't know it was mounted /boot/ on your installed system. It sees everything as /. There should probably be a symlink pointing /boot to the main directory. Either that, or just drop the '/boot' portion of your kernel names.

(2) Reinstall Grub1

(3) Make a directory on your Ubuntu partion (such as /boot/gentoo), and place your kernel there. Then make a Grub entry for that kernel.

Basically, you would be using some of the space on your Ubuntu partion to act as a really big /boot directory. It won't really interfere with anything on Ubuntu. I suggest this since that is the only partition you have marked as 'bootable' in fdisk.

(4) Make an initramfs for your kernel, and include that in your Grub configuration. Unfortunately, you have really small boot partitions. And, the Error 17 makes me think Grub is still having trouble even reading your boot partitions.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dont Panic wrote:
Grub1 Error 17: Grub sees the partition, and it looks like Grub should know what to do with that partition, but Grub isn't able to find what it expects to find on that partition.


Yes ... but
Code:
find /boot/grub/stage1
is working so I don't understand.

Dont Panic wrote:
Grub1 Error 21: Grub is having a problem doing anything with the partition.


As per all my reading on the internet, It means "Grub as a problem to locate my disk" and some people explain that Grub doesn't find disks reported by the BIOS. It is confirmed that Grub rely on the BIOS to find its disks ?
In this case, as both Gentoo and Ubuntu installed Grub (on different disks) are having problems ... I suspect my BIOS is corrupted ... I'll try to clear it and retry ...

Dont Panic wrote:
Here's a couple of things you could try (they're not in order, and are all separate ideas):


1/ I will check if /boot link exists.

2/ I did Grub reinstallation several times without success (both Gentoo and Ubuntu ones).

3/
Dont Panic wrote:
Make a directory on your Ubuntu partion (such as /boot/gentoo), and place your kernel there. Then make a Grub entry for that kernel.

The problem is this Grub doesn't work as well. Especially it doesn't find geometry of my SCSI disk.

But if erasing the BIOS doesn't solve the issue, I'll try to install Gentoo boot on Ubuntu partition ...


And if it doesn't work, then ... I WILL PANIC :lol:
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reseting the BIOS did help :evil:

I read that some BIOS can't boot from partition far in the HD ... so I'll move my boot partition to the begining of the disk ...
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I'm now able to boot on Gentoo :D :D

I re-formated my /sda (320 GB), but my boot partition at the beginning (hd0,0), rerun grub ... and now I'm able to boot. Consequently, I totally removed the Maxtor disk that create nightmare everytime the machine is suffering for power outage.

Now :

  • I have to add Ubuntu into HD0 grub ... not an issue.
  • Ubuntu's Grub on HD1 is totally messed up and not able to boot on my SCSI drive : same messages about C/H/S. I don't care, as I'll not use it anymore as soon as Ubuntu is added in HD0 one.
  • My Ubuntu is still suffering for problem (mount message at boot up), but I don't really care as my main OS is Gentoo.


It seems that Grub really rely on the Bios and my Bios is too old (2000 !) to handle boot partition far in disk space ...
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 4:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awesome! Congratulations! :D

You may still be able to host a root partition on your SCSI drive, but you would have to boot with a kernel and initramfs on the drive that Grub recognizes.
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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it can help someone, I've been able also to chain to hd1's Ubuntu grub2 by adding following lines ...

Code:
title Ubuntu
root (hd1)
chainloader +1
boot
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