Obama's tax rate was 20.5%; lower than his secretary's

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And Romney's money doesn't come from political corruption, like writing books used to launder campaign money into his personal accounts by having his campaign purchase hundreds of thousands of his books and send them to every public library, school, museum, and major campaign finance contributor, and selling vast quantities of them to un-named purchasers (probably connected with outfits like Solyndra) who probably then just incinerate them.
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pjp · Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:52 am Post subject:

Funny, considering your race comment.
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"But if the right weren't constantly racist"
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Obama is stimulating the economy by investing the money and creating new jobs in what otherwise would go to taxes.
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BoneKracker · Veteran Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 1488 Location: U.S.A.

It obviously does make Obama hypocritical. He is calling for the top 1% to pay more taxes (because they are allegedly not paying their "fair share"), and yet he himself pays only a 20% tax rate (by choice, had he not claimed various deductions, he'd have paid 35% or 40%). There is no way you can say that is not hypocritical.

Tax increases on the top 1% probably will get through, as soon as Democrats are willing to also make some corresponding spending cuts. You're acknowledging now that it's a problem on both sides, but you weren't earlier.

In fact, there was a deal at one point, based on a quid pro quo of proportional spending reductions and tax increases, but Obama backed out, preferring instead to play chicken with fiscal default, while claiming that it was the fault of Republicans. What he did amounts to, "let me have all the deficit spending I want, or I'll drive the car off a cliff." And the whole time, he claimed it was Republicans who were "holding the country hostage". The fact that you apparently believe that shit is what makes you a propaganda victim.
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BoneKracker · Veteran Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 1488 Location: U.S.A.

You take the blinders off. He's obviously being hypocritical. He's not leading by example. If he honestly believe the 1% aren't paying enough taxes, why doesn't he start with his own taxes? He is one of the 1%. He (or Biden) said it is the "patriotic duty" of the rich to pay higher taxes.

Don't waste your time on more strawmen and rambling. If he were arguing for a ban on smoking and was out there puffing away, you'd probably say "Obama quitting doesn't solve the problem", right? Please. :roll:

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BoneKracker · Veteran Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 1488 Location: U.S.A.

Nobody is asking you to explain (to mumble confused, illogical nonsense) any further. You're wrong.

Either the principle is right or it's not. The smoking analogy is perfectly fair:

If the President wants people to quit smoking, and he's saying people should quit smoking, and he's calling for legislation to force people to quit smoking, and yet he's flagrantly smoking himself, then he's a hypocrite. (By the way, why do you think the President quit smoking?)

Similarly, if the President wants the 1% to pay higher taxes, and he's saying they should pay higher taxes, and he's calling for legislation to force them to pay higher taxes, yet he's flagrantly paying a low tax rate himself, then he's a hypocrite.

He's a fucking hypocrite. End of story.
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