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PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wswartzendruber wrote:
Whoa, stop EVERYTHING!!!

A Way Better Deal Directly from Cree

A 13W CFL will match a 60W incandescent. This bastard eats less than 10W, and goes for just over $10 per bulb. It has a five-star rating on average. No shit.


that is too expensive

here Philips is selling 15W led lamps shaped equivalent 15 W bulb costs INR 98.00 say a $ each
also they are unbreakable.
demonstartes by dropping 10 feet
i don't think it gives same light level as normal 15 W bulb yet
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It sounds like you have a government subsidy. :)
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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here Philips is selling 15W led lamps shaped equivalent 15 W bulb costs INR 98.00 say a $ each
also they are unbreakable.
demonstartes by dropping 10 feet
i don't think it gives same light level as normal 15 W bulb yet
15W? That's barely serviceable as a nightlight. Did you mean 60W equivalent, or something else?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wswartzendruber wrote:
It also has a CRI of 80. The LEDs I originally pointed you to have a CRI of 72.

You need something more useful to geek out on:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accurizing
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol

I saw 'accurizing' and was certain that was some kind of joke site.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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wswartzendruber wrote:
It also has a CRI of 80. The LEDs I originally pointed you to have a CRI of 72.

You need something more useful to geek out on:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accurizing

My Savage is already free-floated, and I'm not doing that with the AR-15.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wswartzendruber wrote:
BoneKracker wrote:
wswartzendruber wrote:
It also has a CRI of 80. The LEDs I originally pointed you to have a CRI of 72.

You need something more useful to geek out on:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accurizing

My Savage is already free-floated, and I'm not doing that with the AR-15.

That's not the only thing you can do.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd rather spend time axing my power bill.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'd rather spend time axing my power bill.

Turn the lights off when you leave rooms, wear long underwear, take shorter showers, and take up candle-making (wax is practically free).
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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wswartzendruber wrote:
I'd rather spend time axing my power bill.

Turn the lights off when you leave rooms, wear long underwear, take shorter showers, and take up candle-making (wax is practically free).


If you have electric heating, better bulbs don't make a large difference. Keep in mind all the energy loss in inefficient lighting is given off as heat, so you will have to heat less. In the UK you pretty much need to heat all year round, so you don't waste much in heat.

However, if you have gas heating, it makes a difference (since gas is substantially cheaper than electricity usually). I have gas heating, but i still splash out for nice lights.

But I think BK has the right idea. Turning off things that aren't used helps tremendously. We also have cheap shitty lights in hallway areas (i.e. non-sitting areas). if you live in a dry place, hang out laundry (dryers are pigs). But the easiest thing to do is turn out lights/appliances that aren't in use.

changing to a gas/induction stove might help if you cook a lot. They are also much nicer to cook with.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I already have a habit of turning lights off when I leave and have a gas heater. I've cut my power bill in half. Now I'm going to cut it a little bit more.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All year in the UK? Here in NL we don't run the heater at all for around 3 months in the year, and during about a week or two of those three months I wish stuff around here used even less energy because we don't have AC.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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All year in the UK? Here in NL we don't run the heater at all for around 3 months in the year, and during about a week or two of those three months I wish stuff around here used even less energy because we don't have AC.
Ignore him, he has thin blood.
We started putting the heating on timer prob late nov for morning and early evening for an hour or two (our house would warm up within 10min of the heating being turned on)
started going on for extended periods during the day early dec. Usually the heating is all off by March but this march has been exceptional (snow in April for starters when thats all gone by mid feb)

so 3mo on average for a normal brit, those softer imported types then maybe 12months
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cue Monty Python Yorkshireman sketch.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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All year in the UK? Here in NL we don't run the heater at all for around 3 months in the year, and during about a week or two of those three months I wish stuff around here used even less energy because we don't have AC.
Ignore him, he has thin blood.
We started putting the heating on timer prob late nov for morning and early evening for an hour or two (our house would warm up within 10min of the heating being turned on)
started going on for extended periods during the day early dec. Usually the heating is all off by March but this march has been exceptional (snow in April for starters when thats all gone by mid feb)

so 3mo on average for a normal brit, those softer imported types then maybe 12months


Depends on the place.

I lived out west where we really did turn on the heat in July. that was a combination of weather and british style insulation.

My place now is newer, so yes, heat is off june - sept. But this winter is interminable (saw snow AGAIN today).

Basically, they have the weather of west coast canada here with california style insulation. Not just homes either. Offices too. Of the 3 buildings I have worked, only 1 could heat properly.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You belong in the South of France or Spain.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You belong in the South of France or Spain.


no, I don't. i have lived in many parts of canada and the NE of US. You won't understand british insulation until you experience it yourself. brits don't get it because they don't know any better (the irish are even worse). But every foreigner I know here complains about the heating. Germans and northern europeans really complain about it.

the weirdest thing as that there is a tendency to blame the heating on the age of the building. But this isn't the problem. I work in a building less than 10 years old, and it is effing freezing.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You belong in the South of France or Spain.


no, I don't. i have lived in many parts of canada and the NE of US. You won't understand british insulation until you experience it yourself. brits don't get it because they don't know any better (the irish are even worse). But every foreigner I know here complains about the heating. Germans and northern europeans really complain about it.

the weirdest thing as that there is a tendency to blame the heating on the age of the building. But this isn't the problem. I work in a building less than 10 years old, and it is effing freezing.

Yes you do. There's a reason they don't mind it. It's called evolution (and being smart enough to wear woolen clothing of adequate substance.
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You belong in the South of France or Spain.


no, I don't. i have lived in many parts of canada and the NE of US. You won't understand british insulation until you experience it yourself. brits don't get it because they don't know any better (the irish are even worse). But every foreigner I know here complains about the heating. Germans and northern europeans really complain about it.

the weirdest thing as that there is a tendency to blame the heating on the age of the building. But this isn't the problem. I work in a building less than 10 years old, and it is effing freezing.

Yes you do. There's a reason they don't mind it. It's called evolution (and being smart enough to wear woolen clothing of adequate substance.


it's hard to type with woolen gloves. even my british coworkers went and bought some of those fingerless gloves.

You won't believe me until you experience it. I have woolen stuff all over me usually. Scottish wool. that shits good.
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Scottish wool. that shits good.

That would be due to the human DNA in Scottish sheep.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Scottish wool. that shits good.

That would be due to the human DNA in Scottish sheep.


:lol: :lol: :lol:


Little known fact, velcro was actually invented by a Scottish shepherd for use as gloves.
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That would be due to the human DNA in Scottish sheep.

You're thinking of Wales.
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That would be due to the human DNA in Scottish sheep.

You're thinking of Wales.

Scotland, England, Wales, New Zealand. They all look the same to me.
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Old School wrote:
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That would be due to the human DNA in Scottish sheep.

You're thinking of Wales.

Scotland, England, Wales, New Zealand. They all look the same to me.

You'd make an excellent Republican president with that insight.
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Old School wrote:
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That would be due to the human DNA in Scottish sheep.

You're thinking of Wales.

Scotland, England, Wales, New Zealand. They all look the same to me.


it rains like hell in Wales, and Scotland probably has the nastiest weather on the planet.

I live in England, so that is saying a lot.
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