| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
Prenj
n00b
Joined: 20 Nov 2011
Posts: 4
Location: Mostar, BiH
|
 Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 2:02 am Post subject: |
 |
|
| That's it, I'm voting for Putin! |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
BoneKracker
Veteran
Joined: 14 Mar 2006
Posts: 1271
Location: U.S.A.
|
| Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 2:07 am Post subject: |
|
|
They do have similar looks. They could be brothers. They look more alike than, say, George and Jeb Bush or John and Bobby Kennedy.
_________________
Obama killed bin Laden like Nixon was the first man on the Moon. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
petrjanda
Veteran
Joined: 05 Sep 2003
Posts: 1556
Location: Brno, Czech Republic
|
| Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 2:25 am Post subject: |
|
|
| wswartzendruber wrote: |
Well, he wants government to get involved in the definition of marriage, but I'm willing to accept that if it means a stable economy.
What else has he said? |
Santorum is fundamentally opposed to civil liberties. Moreover there isn't going to be any economic stability if he goes on an intervening militarily around the world.
Does he actually have a sound economic plan? Is he going to cut debt? The major problem with just about everywhere is that there is too much debt(in other words too much credit was easily available) which acts like a poison for job creation and economy overall.
_________________
There is, a not-born, a not-become, a not-made, a not-compounded. If that unborn, not-become, not-made, not-compounded were not, there would be no escape from this here that is born, become, made and compounded. - Gautama Siddharta |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
wswartzendruber
Veteran
Joined: 23 Mar 2004
Posts: 1155
Location: California, USA
|
| Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:02 am Post subject: |
|
|
| pjp wrote: | | wswartzendruber wrote: | | I want Santorum! |
Seriously? |
This has my attention, although I want to know what was said in the middle that was cut out. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
BoneKracker
Veteran
Joined: 14 Mar 2006
Posts: 1271
Location: U.S.A.
|
| Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:05 am Post subject: |
|
|
He's no libertarian, but I wouldn't say Santorum is "fundamentally opposed to civil liberties". I don't think even Stalin or Mao were "fundamentally opposed to civil liberties".
_________________
Obama killed bin Laden like Nixon was the first man on the Moon. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
petrjanda
Veteran
Joined: 05 Sep 2003
Posts: 1556
Location: Brno, Czech Republic
|
| Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:25 am Post subject: |
|
|
| BoneKracker wrote: | | He's no libertarian, but I wouldn't say Santorum is "fundamentally opposed to civil liberties". I don't think even Stalin or Mao were "fundamentally opposed to civil liberties". |
They all are. They all want to force you to do things certain way whether you like it or not. The only difference is Stalin would outright make people disappear to scare others into submission. Santorum and the other assholes will do it bit by bit.
_________________
There is, a not-born, a not-become, a not-made, a not-compounded. If that unborn, not-become, not-made, not-compounded were not, there would be no escape from this here that is born, become, made and compounded. - Gautama Siddharta |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
notageek
Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 05 Jun 2008
Posts: 77
Location: Bangalore, India
|
| Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:25 am Post subject: |
|
|
| pjp wrote: | 
Seriously, they don't look alike. And for what it is worth, I don't think "they all look alike" is a racist or pseudo-racist problem. It has been demonstrated that interracial recognition is not all that good (I forget if it was mentioned to be a "nurture" issue... seems like it would be). |
Exhibit A
Exhibit B
Exhibit C
Exhibit D, E, F, G ... Z
_________________
What looks like a cat, flies like a bat, brays like a donkey, and plays like a monkey? |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
pjp
Administrator
Joined: 16 Apr 2002
Posts: 15989
Location: Colorado
|
| Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:44 am Post subject: |
|
|
I looked at A, B & C (just Santorum?), and think those demonstrate that they don't really look alike. Wearing a similar clothing style with roughly the same color hair doesn't make them look alike IMO. I never think babies resemble parents either, so maybe I'm blind.
_________________
Safety is my gaol.
US Constitution | Amendments |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
tylerwylie
Guru
Joined: 19 Sep 2004
Posts: 455
Location: /US/Illinois/Champaign
|
| Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:44 am Post subject: |
|
|
lol elections, lol voters, and lol government
_________________
POLITICS, n. A strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. The conduct of public affairs for private advantage. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
pjp
Administrator
Joined: 16 Apr 2002
Posts: 15989
Location: Colorado
|
| Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:53 am Post subject: |
|
|
| wswartzendruber wrote: | | pjp wrote: | | wswartzendruber wrote: | | I want Santorum! |
Seriously? |
This has my attention, although I want to know what was said in the middle that was cut out. |
What time stamp? I'm not hearing, but don't doubt you're hearing something.
Also, in response to that video was this: Rick Santorum - Tea Party Phony (I was looking at comments to see if anyone mentioned what you noticed).
I'm already not a fan due to his religious views*, but this just keeps stacking against him IMO.
* I'm not guessing many Christians would want a Muslim being elected if they thought s/he would legislate their religious views.
EDIT:
General stumbling, but not good:
Santorum Denies Saying 'Black People' (Rick Santorum - 'I Don't Want to Make Black People's Lives Better')
EDIT2:
| NPR broadcast referenced by video link wrote: | | Senator RICK SANTORUM ("It Takes a Family"): They have this idea that people should be left alone, be able to do whatever they want to do. Government should keep our taxes down and keep our regulation low and that we shouldn't get involved in the bedroom, we shouldn't get involved in cultural issues, you know, people should do whatever they want. Well, that is not how traditional conservatives view the world, and I think most conservatives understand that individuals can't go it alone, that there is no such society that I'm aware of where we've had radical individualism and that it succeeds as a culture. |
They VERY beginning of the audio (the "libertarian" comment) in the video link is slightly different (I can't get the NPR audio to work to confirm).
_________________
Safety is my gaol.
US Constitution | Amendments |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
juniper
l33t
Joined: 22 Oct 2004
Posts: 745
Location: EU
|
| Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 1:43 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| wswartzendruber wrote: | | juniper wrote: | | wswartzendruber wrote: | | I want Santorum! He's the only other guy up there besides Ron Paul who's voting record backs up his mouth. |
indeed. but shouldn't what comes out of his mouth matter?
I actually don't see how you can compare ron paul and santorum. they are polar opposites. it's amazing they are running for the same party. |
Well, he wants government to get involved in the definition of marriage, but I'm willing to accept that if it means a stable economy.
What else has he said? |
he wants the govt in your bedroom (gays, abortion).
he has an economic platform too? hard to hear about through all his crap about gays. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
BoneKracker
Veteran
Joined: 14 Mar 2006
Posts: 1271
Location: U.S.A.
|
| Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 5:17 pm Post subject: |
|
|
If abortion is happening in your bedroom, you might be doing it wrong.
_________________
Obama killed bin Laden like Nixon was the first man on the Moon. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
pjp
Administrator
Joined: 16 Apr 2002
Posts: 15989
Location: Colorado
|
| Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 11:36 pm Post subject: |
|
|
If government or employer is happening in your health care decisions, you're voting incorrectly.
_________________
Safety is my gaol.
US Constitution | Amendments |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
wswartzendruber
Veteran
Joined: 23 Mar 2004
Posts: 1155
Location: California, USA
|
| Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:21 am Post subject: |
|
|
I've heard Santorum say some stuff about the economy. Something to the effect of:
"Manufacturers who stay local should get some tax breaks, but not people like Walmart. No matter what, Walmart can't operate stores in the U.S. from overseas, but manufacturing firms will happily move." |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Muso
l33t
Joined: 22 Oct 2002
Posts: 654
Location: The Holy city of Honolulu
|
| Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:30 am Post subject: |
|
|
I'm sick of politicians using the tax code to pick winners and losers. Flatten it!
_________________
| ichbinsisyphos wrote: | | You know, personally I've never been the greatest fan of Negroes |
The Philosophy of Liberty |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
pjp
Administrator
Joined: 16 Apr 2002
Posts: 15989
Location: Colorado
|
| Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:18 am Post subject: |
|
|
And call it a Gains Tax. Not income, not capital gains.
_________________
Safety is my gaol.
US Constitution | Amendments |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
juniper
l33t
Joined: 22 Oct 2004
Posts: 745
Location: EU
|
| Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:11 am Post subject: |
|
|
| wswartzendruber wrote: | I've heard Santorum say some stuff about the economy. Something to the effect of:
"Manufacturers who stay local should get some tax breaks, but not people like Walmart. No matter what, Walmart can't operate stores in the U.S. from overseas, but manufacturing firms will happily move." |
too many gays at walmart? |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
juniper
l33t
Joined: 22 Oct 2004
Posts: 745
Location: EU
|
| Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:13 am Post subject: |
|
|
| The Earth wrote: | | I'm sick of politicians using the tax code to pick winners and losers. Flatten it! |
that is silly (govt picking winners and losers). you don't need a flat tax, or even a simple tax (though a simple taxation system would help out a lot). you just shouldn't pick winners. no tax breaks for mortgages and SUVs. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
wswartzendruber
Veteran
Joined: 23 Mar 2004
Posts: 1155
Location: California, USA
|
| Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 2:17 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| juniper wrote: | | wswartzendruber wrote: | I've heard Santorum say some stuff about the economy. Something to the effect of:
"Manufacturers who stay local should get some tax breaks, but not people like Walmart. No matter what, Walmart can't operate stores in the U.S. from overseas, but manufacturing firms will happily move." |
too many gays at walmart? |
Gay people usually avoid Walmart due to the right-wing stereotype associated with it. In fact, San Francisco doesn't even have one. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
juniper
l33t
Joined: 22 Oct 2004
Posts: 745
Location: EU
|
| Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 2:54 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| wswartzendruber wrote: | | juniper wrote: | | wswartzendruber wrote: | I've heard Santorum say some stuff about the economy. Something to the effect of:
"Manufacturers who stay local should get some tax breaks, but not people like Walmart. No matter what, Walmart can't operate stores in the U.S. from overseas, but manufacturing firms will happily move." |
too many gays at walmart? |
Gay people usually avoid Walmart due to the right-wing stereotype associated with it. In fact, San Francisco doesn't even have one. |
I know. But I can't figure out why Santorum doesn't want to give breaks to walmart if gays aren't the problem.
one trick pony. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
wswartzendruber
Veteran
Joined: 23 Mar 2004
Posts: 1155
Location: California, USA
|
| Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:12 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Uh oh. We got another one down. Somebody better get the defibrillator to bring Commander Bubbles here back into reality.  |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
juniper
l33t
Joined: 22 Oct 2004
Posts: 745
Location: EU
|
| Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:18 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| wswartzendruber wrote: | | Uh oh. We got another one down. Somebody better get the defibrillator to bring Commander Bubbles here back into reality. |
you are the one who thinks that paul and santorum or at all comparable not me. If I was willing to vote for one (I would be, paul), I could not vote for the other even if he was the only candidate. They are that different.
it's a complete accident that they are even running for the same party, which is why you might consider voting for these two candidates with opposing viewpoints. in other countries, they would definitely be in different parties.
Last edited by juniper on Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:20 pm; edited 1 time in total |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
wswartzendruber
Veteran
Joined: 23 Mar 2004
Posts: 1155
Location: California, USA
|
| Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:20 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| juniper wrote: | | wswartzendruber wrote: | | Uh oh. We got another one down. Somebody better get the defibrillator to bring Commander Bubbles here back into reality. |
you are the one who thinks that paul and santorum or at all comparable not me. If I was willing to vote for one (I would be, paul), I could not vote for the other even if he was the only candidate. They are that different. |
I said they both have voting records to backup what they're saying, unlike the other two. And even that was before pjp's helpful little bite. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
juniper
l33t
Joined: 22 Oct 2004
Posts: 745
Location: EU
|
| Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:22 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| wswartzendruber wrote: | | juniper wrote: | | wswartzendruber wrote: | | Uh oh. We got another one down. Somebody better get the defibrillator to bring Commander Bubbles here back into reality. |
you are the one who thinks that paul and santorum or at all comparable not me. If I was willing to vote for one (I would be, paul), I could not vote for the other even if he was the only candidate. They are that different. |
I said they both have voting records to backup what they're saying, unlike the other two. And even that was before pjp's helpful little bite. |
you said that on top of saying you wanted santorum. so, unless you don't want paul, i don't see how your wants make sense. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
wswartzendruber
Veteran
Joined: 23 Mar 2004
Posts: 1155
Location: California, USA
|
| Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:24 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| juniper wrote: | | wswartzendruber wrote: | | juniper wrote: | | wswartzendruber wrote: | | Uh oh. We got another one down. Somebody better get the defibrillator to bring Commander Bubbles here back into reality. |
you are the one who thinks that paul and santorum or at all comparable not me. If I was willing to vote for one (I would be, paul), I could not vote for the other even if he was the only candidate. They are that different. |
I said they both have voting records to backup what they're saying, unlike the other two. And even that was before pjp's helpful little bite. |
you said that on top of saying you wanted santorum. so, unless you don't want paul, i don't see how your wants make sense. |
I believe that both Rick Santorum and Ron Paul possess the economic values to make America great again.
EDIT: And I'm re-evaluating Santorum in light of what pjp posted. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
Off the Wall
