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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 8:55 am    Post subject: 2.5TB hdd (GTP) says disk full, but 1.5TB left.. ?? Reply with quote

i am just filling my backup drive.. and am at this step:

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/dev/sdc1       2,3T    881G  1,5T   38% /mnt/BACKUP


as you can see, there is 1.5TB space left. it is partitioned with parted, and has a GPT table..

now if i continue filling the disk:

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p -v 19600000_001.jpg /mnt/BACKUP
„19600000_001.jpg“ -> „/mnt/BACKUP/19600000_001.jpg“
cp: reguläre Datei „/mnt/BACKUP/19600000_001.jpg“ kann nicht angelegt werden: Auf dem Gerät ist kein Speicherplatz mehr verfügbar


sorry the german.. it says there is no space left on the device, wtf??

i already copied 880GB fine.

the filesystem is ext3 with 4096 sectorsize

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GPT fdisk (gdisk) version 0.6.13

Partition table scan:
  MBR: protective
  BSD: not present
  APM: not present
  GPT: present

Found valid GPT with protective MBR; using GPT.

Command (? for help): p
Disk /dev/sdc: 4883781168 sectors, 2.3 TiB                                                                                                                                         
Logical sector size: 512 bytes                                                                                                                                                     
Disk identifier (GUID): 3569D057-2690-4BC1-AB1A-4777409158F2                                                                                                                       
Partition table holds up to 128 entries                                                                                                                                           
First usable sector is 34, last usable sector is 4883781134                                                                                                                       
Partitions will be aligned on 2048-sector boundaries                                                                                                                               
Total free space is 3565 sectors (1.7 MiB)                                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                                                                   
Number  Start (sector)    End (sector)  Size       Code  Name                                                                                                                     
   1            2048      4883779583   2.3 TiB     0700  primary 


any clues?

wtf??
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Total free space is 3565 sectors (1.7 MiB) 


just realized the above while posting it here..
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:33 am    Post subject: Re: 2.5TB hdd (GTP) says disk full, but 1.5TB left.. ?? Reply with quote

Dieter.Soltau wrote:
the filesystem is ext3 with 4096 sectorsize

You ran out of inodes. `df -i` will confirm this.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Number Start (sector) End (sector) Size Code Name
1 2048 4883779583 2.3 TiB 0700 primary

this is just cosmetic issue
but the partition type you have there is NTFS.
should look like this instead/
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Number  Start (sector)    End (sector)  Size       Code  Name
   1            2048          4883779583   2.3 TiB   8300  Linux filesystem
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kaso_da_Zmok wrote:
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Number Start (sector) End (sector) Size Code Name
1 2048 4883779583 2.3 TiB 0700 primary

this is just cosmetic issue
but the partition type you have there is NTFS.
should look like this instead/
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Number  Start (sector)    End (sector)  Size       Code  Name
   1            2048          4883779583   2.3 TiB   8300  Linux filesystem


?!

My gdisk says "0700 Linux/Windows data". Ubuntu use this for their data partitions as well and so do I. 8300 isn't a known type regarding my gdisk version "GPT fdisk (gdisk) version 0.6.13"
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what planet is the 0700 linux data :-)

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Command (? for help): t
Partition number (1-4): 4
Current type is 'Linux filesystem'
Hex code or GUID (L to show codes, Enter = 8300): L
0700 Microsoft basic data
8300 Linux filesystem


Ubuntu is not different, not that it matters what the partition type is.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The planet gdisk 0.6.13 :)

And when I installed my last Ubuntu system (2 or 3 weeks ago) it set the type to 0700, too. Like I said: gdisk 0.6.13 doesn't even list 8300 as a valid partition type.

Edit:

http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/walkthrough.html

Here is the type 8300 listed. Strange. In the code-block 0700 stands for Windows Data, but then it writes 0700 as Linux/Windows-Data.


Ok, I upgraded to gdisk 0.8.2 and there is 8300 available. Can I simply change it or is there a possibilty for data loss?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes you can change it anytime no data loss.
it is not important what type, and if you know what fs you have on the partition.
i was just surprised that you don't have it by the book. means if you have ext3 on it than the partition type is 83 in gpt world it is 8300.
that concept of 0700 to be Windows/Linux data is new to me and type 7 or 0700 in gpt is always NTFS.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, like I said 2 times before: Get the gdisk source (gptfdisk) 0.6.13, compile and run it. You will see no 8300 type and you will see 0700 as "Linux/Windows Data". This isn't something I made up :)
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:14 pm    Post subject: Re: 2.5TB hdd (GTP) says disk full, but 1.5TB left.. ?? Reply with quote

Ant P. wrote:
Dieter.Soltau wrote:
the filesystem is ext3 with 4096 sectorsize

You ran out of inodes. `df -i` will confirm this.


how do i fix this ?? any chance to fix without data loss?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pretty odd..
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soltau ~ # df -i
Dateisystem       Inodes IBenutzt     IFrei IUse% Eingehängt auf
rootfs          11231232   483446  10747786    5% /
/dev/root       11231232   483446  10747786    5% /
rc-svcdir         990098       84    990014    1% /lib64/rc/init.d
udev              990098     1048    989050    1% /dev
shm               990098        9    990089    1% /dev/shm
/dev/sdd1      615451600   167154 615284446    1% /mnt/EXT
/dev/sda2       76114308    98960  76015348    1% /mnt/XP
/dev/sda3       73876152   203461  73672691    1% /mnt/WIN7
/dev/sdb2              0        0         0     - /mnt/SHARE
/dev/sdc1         596192   596192         0  100% /mnt/BACKUP


what happened to sdb2 ?? it is reiserfs..

and how to fix my sdc1 now, damnit :-(
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

copy all data out and reformat wtth some normal fs. ( had 2 Franziskaner Weissbier's and half a bottle of deluxe irish creame 17%)
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dieter.Soltau,

The inode count cannot be changed without destroying the filesystem.
mke2fs guesses how many inodes to make based on the filesystem size.

Read its man page - you can control the number of inodes. Either by setting a number or a ratio of blocks of storage per inode.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dieter.Soltau wrote:
what happened to sdb2 ?? it is reiserfs..

and how to fix my sdc1 now, damnit :-(

reiserfs can't run out of inodes because it doesn't use them.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kaso_da_Zmok wrote:
copy all data out and reformat wtth some normal fs. ( had 2 Franziskaner Weissbier's and half a bottle of deluxe irish creame 17%)

i like.. ^^

well, it is a GPT drive, 4096 sectors, i am pretty unsure how to format / partition this beats at all, hmm..
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmmmmmmmmmmm... okay.. should i use REISERFS (3) on my 2.5TB GPT drive? again: it has 4096 physical clustersize.. how the fsck should i handle that beast?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NeddySeagoon wrote:
Dieter.Soltau,

The inode count cannot be changed without destroying the filesystem.
mke2fs guesses how many inodes to make based on the filesystem size.

Read its man page - you can control the number of inodes. Either by setting a number or a ratio of blocks of storage per inode.


okay, so whats best guess for me? it is a BACKUP drive, dunno in advance how many inodes i need.. what do you suggest for parted and filesystem?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Filesystems (such as JFS, or XFS) escape this limitation with extents and/or dynamic inode allocation, which can 'grow' the filesystem and/or increase the number of inodes.

my favorite is XFS
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

596k inodes seems oddly low for a 2.5TB filesystem. Using ext4 with extents would lower the usage, but it looks like mke2fs picked a bad default there. That's 1 inode per ~4MB which is an enormous waste for small files.

It would be useful for us to see the output of:
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tune2fs -l /dev/sdc1

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ant P. wrote:
596k inodes seems oddly low for a 2.5TB filesystem. Using ext4 with extents would lower the usage, but it looks like mke2fs picked a bad default there. That's 1 inode per ~4MB which is an enormous waste for small files.

It would be useful for us to see the output of:
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tune2fs -l /dev/sdc1



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soltau duke # tune2fs -l /dev/sdc1
tune2fs 1.41.14 (22-Dec-2010)
Filesystem volume name:   <none>
Last mounted on:          <not available>
Filesystem UUID:          a226e022-6e63-41e0-81e3-d9201bf0474a
Filesystem magic number:  0xEF53
Filesystem revision #:    1 (dynamic)
Filesystem features:      has_journal ext_attr resize_inode dir_index filetype needs_recovery sparse_super large_file
Filesystem flags:         signed_directory_hash
Default mount options:    (none)
Filesystem state:         clean with errors
Errors behavior:          Continue
Filesystem OS type:       Linux
Inode count:              596192
Block count:              610472192
Reserved block count:     0
Free blocks:              379522027
Free inodes:              0
First block:              0
Block size:               4096
Fragment size:            4096
Reserved GDT blocks:      878
Blocks per group:         32768
Fragments per group:      32768
Inodes per group:         32
Inode blocks per group:   2
RAID stride:              1
RAID stripe width:        1
Filesystem created:       Sat Feb  4 21:33:28 2012
Last mount time:          Mon Feb  6 09:40:59 2012
Last write time:          Mon Feb  6 09:40:59 2012
Mount count:              9
Maximum mount count:      33
Last checked:             Sat Feb  4 21:33:28 2012
Check interval:           15552000 (6 months)
Next check after:         Thu Aug  2 22:33:28 2012
Reserved blocks uid:      0 (user root)
Reserved blocks gid:      0 (group root)
First inode:              11
Inode size:               256
Required extra isize:     28
Desired extra isize:      28
Journal inode:            8
Default directory hash:   half_md4
Directory Hash Seed:      9980ad06-d23c-4e17-8528-30166b04da8f
Journal backup:           inode blocks
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btw.. just emptying the disk.. ready for suggestions.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1 inode per 1024 blocks... yep, the numbers add up.

I'd suggest ext4 using this:
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mkfs.ext4 -T huge /dev/sdc1

That will use 64kB per inode, which will hold about 20 million files. That should be plenty (the average system has about 1 million total)
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ant P. wrote:
1 inode per 1024 blocks... yep, the numbers add up.

I'd suggest ext4 using this:
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mkfs.ext4 -T huge /dev/sdc1

That will use 64kB per inode, which will hold about 20 million files. That should be plenty (the average system has about 1 million total)


what about the physical 4096k clustersize of the drive??? do i not have to specify this? i thought the drive might get slow if we use the default 512bytes??

http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-4kb-sector-disks/
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ext4 defaults to blocksize=4096
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ant P. wrote:
ext4 defaults to blocksize=4096

sounds good.. ty!

now what about the partitioning? i partitioned using parted, but the outcome told me 512 logical, 4096 physical.. is this okay?

i am still unsure if i partitioned the beast correctly.. i am fairly new to GPT and those new disks.. hmm..

now is the time to do it correctly so any hints welcome...
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kaso_da_Zmok wrote:
Filesystems (such as JFS, or XFS) escape this limitation with extents and/or dynamic inode allocation, which can 'grow' the filesystem and/or increase the number of inodes.

my favorite is XFS


XFS sounds good too..

any hints how to format using 4096 instead of 512??
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

why parted? ppl use gdisk
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