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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 5:00 am    Post subject: Ron Paul came in third in Nevada Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 5:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not finished yet.

That's still a projection.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

18.6%.

Compared to 22% of Newt.

So, what's next?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Schedule

On Tuesday there are two caucuses (Colorado & Minnesota) and the Missouri primary.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, I didn't mean the schedule.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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No, I didn't mean the schedule.


For Ron Paul? He will stay in until the convention. The longer he's in the race the more it forces Romney et al to acknowledge the constitutional principles which Dr. Paul champions.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretty weak that Paul couldn't get second. He did in 2008.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If he doesn't win Colorado we can blame pjp for not voting like a democrat... early and often (for the same election).
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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notageek wrote:
No, I didn't mean the schedule.


For Ron Paul? He will stay in until the convention. The longer he's in the race the more it forces Romney et al to acknowledge the constitutional principles which Dr. Paul champions.

I would hope Dr. Paul could get 20% or more of the delegates, and force his voice to be heard at the convention.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If he doesn't win Colorado we can blame pjp for not voting like a democrat... early and often (for the same election).
Until they allow independent voting in primaries, I won't be voting at all. Hurts them in the long run, 'cause I'll be writing in Paul on the 4th.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If he doesn't win Colorado we can blame pjp for not voting like a democrat... early and often (for the same election).
Until they allow independent voting in primaries, I won't be voting at all. Hurts them in the long run, 'cause I'll be writing in Paul on the 4th.

Just another example of the monopoly of the Democratic/Republican machine.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Just another example of the monopoly of the Democratic/Republican machine.
The monopoly exists only because voters think it exists.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The monopoly exists only because voters think it exists.

Like the government!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Just another example of the monopoly of the Democratic/Republican machine.
The monopoly exists only because voters think it exists.

And as an Independent, who will you able to vote for in the Colorado Primaries?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

why should a party let outsiders decide about their candidate?

btw, 'caucus' and 'primary' - what is what and what are the differences? Besides that the first one sounds like clowns and bearded ladies.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

energyman76b wrote:
why should a party let outsiders decide about their candidate?

btw, 'caucus' and 'primary' - what is what and what are the differences? Besides that the first one sounds like clowns and bearded ladies.

One is sort of democratic and the other is pseudo-democratic.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 4:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Just another example of the monopoly of the Democratic/Republican machine.
The monopoly exists only because voters think it exists.

And as an Independent, who will you able to vote for in the Colorado Primaries?
I have no idea how Colorado handles primaries. Most places I've been (and in general) require party registration to vote in the primaries.

Primaries are largely irrelevant to the perception of a two party system. The problem is the result of those who aren't die-hard partisan voters but insist they must vote for the lesser of two evils. As long as they maintain that attitude of failure, the cycle will continue.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I desperately want a "primaries reform" such that any registered voter can vote once for any primary, regardless of party affiliation. I honestly believe that if Democrats had been able to vote for Ron Paul in the Republican primaries previously he would have won the Republican spot. Now whether he would have won the entire election I'm really not sure, but I think he would have done that as well.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I desperately want a "primaries reform" such that any registered voter can vote once for any primary, regardless of party affiliation. I honestly believe that if Democrats had been able to vote for Ron Paul in the Republican primaries previously he would have won the Republican spot. Now whether he would have won the entire election I'm really not sure, but I think he would have done that as well.

More likely the Republican nominee would then end up being The Rent is Too Damn High guy.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That would work both ways.

We need something like instant-runoff voting. Maybe that could replace primaries.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Just another example of the monopoly of the Democratic/Republican machine.
:D
You have three options: Canada, EU, and Mexico. :lol:
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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EU :lol:


lol indeed.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, we haven't heard so much from wildhorse about how super awesome the EU is lately. What's up with that?
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Yeah, we haven't heard so much from wildhorse about how super awesome the EU is lately. What's up with that?


Merkel's pissed at Greece and Greece takes step closer to default while junk bonds are selling at record numbers.

lol indeed.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

At least the unions are doing their part:
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Adding to pressure on Papademos and political leaders, Greece’s biggest public-sector and private-sector union groups, ADEDY and GSEE, hold a 24-hour general strike tomorrow to protest measures that could include a cut in the minimum wage, lower pensions and immediate layoffs for state employees.


Since they are going to have to effectively sell their souls for a bailout, maybe the Greek government should try to get a better deal from China, Russia, or Saudi Arabia, all of whom would probably be happy to have a colony smack in the middle of the Mediterranean.
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