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You've never watched Jeremiah Johnson?
Jeremiah Johnson: [Jeremiah and Caleb find Del Gue buried to his neck in sand] Are you all right?
Del Gue: Sure, sure, I got a fine horse under me!
[sneezes]
Del Gue: Got one of them feathers in my nose.
Jeremiah Johnson: You keep sneezing, it'll come out all right. Haven't seen anyone pass by recent, have you?
Del Gue: Nobody's gone in front of me. Can't say what's happened behind me, though.
Jeremiah Johnson: The Injuns put you here?
Del Gue: T'weren't Mormons.
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I had forgotten that. 
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| BoneKracker wrote: | | I had forgotten that. |
Seemed a fitting response to me. 
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You're a funny guy.
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| Old School wrote: | | You've never watched Jeremiah Johnson? |
Apparently not, or I've repressed those memories.
| Old School wrote: | | Seemed a fitting response to me. |
In the skit, it seems to agree that it was the Injuns. If so, that seems to contradict your earlier statement about not seeing Iranians do anything irrational.
What am I missing?
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BoneKracker
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| BoneKracker wrote: | | This announcement of a timeline by the U.S. intelligence chief strikes me as antithetical to everything that's pounded into their heads from day one about operations security. It's got to be deception of some kind. It might be that they are getting ready to attack on Sunday or something, and this is intended to get them to drop their guard and adopt that as planning horizon. |
Hmmm... it seems the Obama Administration has started saying that Iran is aiding Al Qaeda.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203920204577197421440415962.html
That's what Bush said about Iraq in order to justify attacking them, remember? Maybe we are in fact about to strike them (and the announcement is part of a deception plan as to the timing and where it's coming from). I can see Obama now doing that, given the ratings bump he has got from other military escapades. It's an election year, and about the only thing has worked for him is killing people.
Bomb bomb bomb, bomb-bomb Iran.
Bomb bomb bomb, bomb-bomb Iran.
Oh lets bomb Ira-a-an...
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| BoneKracker wrote: | | Hmmm... it seems the Obama Administration has started saying that Iran is aiding Al Qaeda. |
Yep
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cach0rr0
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*sigh*
I may be a "hawk", but come the fuck on.
There are plenty of legitimate reasons to go to war, there's no fucking reason to just make them the fuck up. Stop inventing shit, asshats. Nobody believes there's an AQ connection in Iran.
If the people wouldn't be supportive of kinetic action against Iran for the reasons we already have, you don't start wildly inventing a bunch of shit. You listen to the fucking people. |
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I could have lived happily never hearing the phrase "kinetic action" again. Thanks, cach0rr0.
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| BoneKracker wrote: | | BoneKracker wrote: | | This announcement of a timeline by the U.S. intelligence chief strikes me as antithetical to everything that's pounded into their heads from day one about operations security. It's got to be deception of some kind. It might be that they are getting ready to attack on Sunday or something, and this is intended to get them to drop their guard and adopt that as planning horizon. |
Hmmm... it seems the Obama Administration has started saying that Iran is aiding Al Qaeda.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203920204577197421440415962.html
That's what Bush said about Iraq in order to justify attacking them, remember? Maybe we are in fact about to strike them (and the announcement is part of a deception plan as to the timing and where it's coming from). I can see Obama now doing that, given the ratings bump he has got from other military escapades. It's an election year, and about the only thing has worked for him is killing people.
Bomb bomb bomb, bomb-bomb Iran.
Bomb bomb bomb, bomb-bomb Iran.
Oh lets bomb Ira-a-an... |
A couple of B2's sneak in between radar, launch their weapons a couple hundred kilometers away, and sneak out.
What? Us?
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| Are we stuck again with the Powell Doctrine of fighting only popular, winnable wars? |
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Prenj
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| Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Its fun watching Roman Empire 2.0 at work. Too bad about the period that follows it before people start thinking again. |
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| Prenj wrote: | | Its fun watching Roman Empire 2.0 at work. Too bad about the period that follows it before people start thinking again. |
Oh well the weaker easter-roman empire aka europe still lives on for a 1000 years as a group of devided-united city states.
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Old School
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| zixnub wrote: | | Prenj wrote: | | Its fun watching Roman Empire 2.0 at work. Too bad about the period that follows it before people start thinking again. |
Oh well the weaker easter-roman empire aka europe still lives on for a 1000 years as a part of a greater Islamic Caliphate. |
Corrected that for you.
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That won't be funny anymore, about 30 years from now. 
Also, I would say Europe is a continuation of the Western Roman Empire, not the Eastern.
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| BoneKracker wrote: |
That won't be funny anymore, about 30 years from now.
Also, I would say Europe is a continuation of the Western Roman Empire, not the Eastern. |
Unfortunately Greece ist still with us, for the moment at least 
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Prenj
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| erm67 wrote: | | BoneKracker wrote: |
That won't be funny anymore, about 30 years from now.
Also, I would say Europe is a continuation of the Western Roman Empire, not the Eastern. |
Unfortunately Greece ist still with us, for the moment at least |
Russia is trying to resurrect the Eastern one. |
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| So we have Western empire slowly dissolving, Caliphate stronger, Eastern trying to get stronger, 2.0 still has guns but owes money to Chinese Empire that says "fuck you guys, its our turn again". Where is Genghis Khan when you need him? |
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No. I'll tell you who is at the top: politicians. Politicians enjoying the good life, with riches and everything they desire at their fingertips. Attack Israel and lose it all? Not happening. |
assumes there are no politicians who are True Believers(tm)
in Iran, the people at the top genuinely believe there is upcoming widespread destruction that will bring about Armageddon and the Mahdi
http://www.wnd.com/2012/02/iran-warns-world-of-coming-great-event/
(if you can stomach the source) |
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Haven't several military missions received plenty of press and bluster beforehand these days? At the same time, imagine living in either of those places with an arbitrary three month attack window with overtones of nuclear annihilation.
Are people in Isreal and Iran allowed to leave at this point? When brinkmanship gets this stupid, the rest of the world could step up to evacuate people. Like knowing a massive tsunami is due in three months. |
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| b0nafide wrote: | | Are people in Isreal and Iran allowed to leave at this point? |
do you know that Israel is free country? the question isn't "if", but "where" and "why".
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| cach0rr0 wrote: | | assumes there are no politicians who are True Believers(tm) |
Politicians are the most pragmatic people in the world.
| Quote: | | in Iran, the people at the top genuinely believe there is upcoming widespread destruction that will bring about Armageddon and the Mahdi |
They might but it's really just pandering. Pandering to the rubes. Politicians do it all the time.
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