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BoneKracker Veteran


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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:27 am Post subject: |
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The paper was good enough. The people weren't. _________________ Obama killed bin Laden like Nixon was the first man on the Moon. |
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Old School Apprentice


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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:29 am Post subject: |
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| BoneKracker wrote: | | The paper was good enough. The people weren't. |
Yeah, that was where I was coming from.
Other than that issue of *ahem* personal servitude. _________________ I am not young enough to know everything.
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richk449 Guru


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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:31 am Post subject: |
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| dmitchell wrote: | | richk449 wrote: | | Because it is better than any other alternative so far discovered? Good is relative. |
Well that's obviously false: it isn't better than the Articles of Confederation, for example. |
The Articles of Confederation lasted 8 years (thanks wikipedia) before being replaced by the constitution. Using your argument that a piece of paper that fails to prevent tyranny is bad, wasn't the AoC much worse than the constitution? |
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dmitchell Veteran


Joined: 17 May 2003 Posts: 1139 Location: Austin, Texas
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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:34 am Post subject: |
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| richk449 wrote: | | The Articles of Confederation lasted 8 years (thanks wikipedia) before being replaced by the constitution. Using your argument that a piece of paper that fails to prevent tyranny is bad, wasn't the AoC much worse than the constitution? |
Obviously not but nice try, R. I think you managed to put enough polish on that turd of an argument to slip it by someone who isn't paying full attention. :lol: _________________ I have gained this by philosophy: that I do without being commanded what others do only from fear of the law. |
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Old School Apprentice


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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:42 am Post subject: |
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The Articles were written for the Revolutionary Interim Government, and were never meant to govern the Nation. _________________ I am not young enough to know everything.
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BoneKracker Veteran


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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:43 am Post subject: |
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| dmitchell wrote: | | richk449 wrote: | | The Articles of Confederation lasted 8 years (thanks wikipedia) before being replaced by the constitution. Using your argument that a piece of paper that fails to prevent tyranny is bad, wasn't the AoC much worse than the constitution? |
Obviously not but nice try, R. I think you managed to put enough polish on that turd of an argument to slip it by someone who isn't paying full attention.  |
I agree that something closer in intent to the Articles of Confederation would be better, but I don't think the Articles of Confederation was a very well-crafted constitution.
By the way, saying that richk449's post was a polished turd of an argument was unjustifiably dickish of you. _________________ Obama killed bin Laden like Nixon was the first man on the Moon. |
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richk449 Guru


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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:58 am Post subject: |
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| BoneKracker wrote: | | By the way, saying that richk449's post was a polished turd of an argument was unjustifiably dickish of you. |
I assumed he was joking, because I was just using his argument. If my argument about the AoC was a turd, then his argument about the constitution was too. |
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BoneKracker Veteran


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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 6:25 am Post subject: |
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Oh, I see. He was being self-deprecating and calling his own argument a turd. I missed that.  _________________ Obama killed bin Laden like Nixon was the first man on the Moon. |
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dmitchell Veteran


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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 6:43 am Post subject: |
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Didn't mean to be a dick, I was just teasing you, R. Nothing but love.
Suppose I say the Tata Nano sucks because it is unsafe in a crash. Then R comes along and says his friend traded his Volvo for a Nano and was killed in a crash, proving that Volvos aren't safe either!
Or if you don't like that, I'll just appeal to R's original post and mumble something about the Articles being better relatively speaking. _________________ I have gained this by philosophy: that I do without being commanded what others do only from fear of the law. |
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BoneKracker Veteran


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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:13 am Post subject: |
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So you mean you weren't being self-deprecating and were actually being a dick for no reason.  _________________ Obama killed bin Laden like Nixon was the first man on the Moon. |
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