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| rtomek wrote: | I played around with the windows 8 dev preview and realized that it would be perfect for replacing the iPad. Sure enough, at CES Lenovo displays their thinkpad yoga. It's the best of both worlds: size, weight, and ease of use of the iPad with a keyboard that flips out from under it with the power of a laptop (core i-series processor). Throw in some gorilla glass 2 and Lenovo's reputation for durability, and you've got yourself one device that does everything. I see the iPad (and iPad-like tablets) seeing the same fate as the Flip camera as soon as 2013.
Windows 8 has the new unified interface, Ubuntu is moving on with Unity, and there are also a bunch of android-derived interfaces for working with touch + keyboard. How long can apple possibly keep insisting that a touchscreen will never end up on a macbook? |
Am I the only one who thinks that having the keyboard on the back of the tablet is a horrible design durability wise?
I think Dell got it right with the design of the Inspiron Duo. They just need to make it thinner and lighter.
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| Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 11:33 pm Post subject: |
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| jdmulloy wrote: | | I think Dell got it right with the design of the Inspiring Duo. They just need to make it thinner and lighter. |
Inspiron Duo, not Inspiring Duo.
Also anything that rotates, spins, or transforms is inevitably going to be a flimsy piece of crap. Nobody wants to manually rejigger their laptop.
Also this is the stupidest thing I've ever seen. Nobody is ever going to position their laptop like that. |
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jdmulloy
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| sts wrote: | | jdmulloy wrote: | | I think Dell got it right with the design of the Inspiring Duo. They just need to make it thinner and lighter. |
Inspiron Duo, not Inspiring Duo.
Also anything that rotates, spins, or transforms is inevitably going to be a flimsy piece of crap. Nobody wants to manually rejigger their laptop.
Also this is the stupidest thing I've ever seen. Nobody is ever going to position their laptop like that. |
Damn TouchPad autocorrect.
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| Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 3:53 am Post subject: |
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| jdmulloy wrote: | | Am I the only one who thinks that having the keyboard on the back of the tablet is a horrible design durability wise? |
What?!? To type, you have to face the screen away?
| jdmulloy wrote: | | I think Dell got it right with the design of the Inspiron Duo. They just need to make it thinner and lighter. |
Butt ugly, but I'd consider it if it wasn't a Dell. Also...
| sts wrote: | | Also anything that rotates, spins, or transforms is inevitably going to be a flimsy piece of crap. Nobody wants to manually rejigger their laptop. |
The Thinkpad works well and is durable. I've dropped mine and it didn't seem to suffer at all.
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| Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 3:56 am Post subject: |
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| Which thinkpad? The tablet? |
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jdmulloy
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| pjp wrote: | | jdmulloy wrote: | | Am I the only one who thinks that having the keyboard on the back of the tablet is a horrible design durability wise? |
What?!? To type, you have to face the screen away? |
I'm talking about the Lenovo IdeaPad Yoga which has with a touchscreen and a fancy hinge that lets you bend the screen all the way over to convert it into a tablet, leaving the keyboard on the "bottom" of the tablet. It's for Windows 8 so there can be an onscreen keyboard. It seems pretty cool, but I would be concerned about the keyboard.
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| looked at the macbook air for the old lady... they only come with solid state hard drives in 64, 128, and 256 gb. the 11 inch model is only available up to 128gb. 1996 called... they want their tiny hard drives back. |
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| I desperately need an ultrabook. These days, you aren't really mobile without one. It's an Intel thingy? Shove it! |
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| Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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Um.. that looks exactly like a MacBook Pro, in black.
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| big dave wrote: | | looked at the macbook air for the old lady... they only come with solid state hard drives in 64, 128, and 256 gb. the 11 inch model is only available up to 128gb. 1996 called... they want their tiny hard drives back. |
Owc makes aftermarket ssds.
Btw, the present called, they want their massively superior technology back.
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| sts wrote: | | Which thinkpad? The tablet? |
Yes (X61). The main issue is that it is too heavy for use as a tablet. At least IMO.
| jdmulloy wrote: | | pjp wrote: | | jdmulloy wrote: | | Am I the only one who thinks that having the keyboard on the back of the tablet is a horrible design durability wise? |
What?!? To type, you have to face the screen away? |
I'm talking about the Lenovo IdeaPad Yoga which has with a touchscreen and a fancy hinge that lets you bend the screen all the way over to convert it into a tablet, leaving the keyboard on the "bottom" of the tablet. It's for Windows 8 so there can be an onscreen keyboard. It seems pretty cool, but I would be concerned about the keyboard. |
 Holy Stupid Ideas Batman! The Dell method, though ugly, seems more useful. I still prefer the swivel of the X61.
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I don't think anyone here posted a link for the Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook, so here it is: http://www.dell.com/html/global/xps13/xps-13-ultrabook.html
Trying to emulate MacBook Pro. Also look at the keyboard.
Oh, and almost forgot, contains Intel Core i7, so not an under-powered device.
And the question is, would anyone go for it?
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I'd easily go for the Dell over the Mac, but I'd not buy anything w/o a real TrackPoint.
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When you do, let us know how it went.
Assuming of-course, you install Linux on it.
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I've owned an X61 for 5 or so years now. Assuming Lenovo doesn't change much for the worse, it will be my next laptop as well.
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| drizek wrote: | | with an SSD and Apple's amazing touchpad and keyboard, it is much nicer to use than a regular desktop. I am only considering an upgrade because of the high resale value of Apple products. |
That amazing touchpad is made of fail. I hate it every time I'm forced to use it.
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| pjp wrote: | | I've owned an X61 for 5 or so years now. Assuming Lenovo doesn't change much for the worse, it will be my next laptop as well. |
I bought a T420 and IMO Lenovo didn't change for the worse. The only gripes I have with the newer X(2xx)-Series is that they don't feel as small compared to the T(4xx)-Series as the X6x felt compared to the T6x.
Since I bought my laptop for lugging around when I'm at university, I thought about getting a X220 first. But it just doesn't feel right for me, whereas the T420 is nice. 14" screen is great - good size but still transportable; I wonder why there are so few 14" notebooks. Most consumer laptops are 15,6" widescreen nowadays or even in the 17" - that's friggin huge.
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| Clad in Sky wrote: | I bought a T420 and IMO Lenovo didn't change for the worse. The only gripes I have with the newer X(2xx)-Series is that they don't feel as small compared to the T(4xx)-Series as the X6x felt compared to the T6x.
Since I bought my laptop for lugging around when I'm at university, I thought about getting a X220 first. But it just doesn't feel right for me, whereas the T420 is nice. 14" screen is great - good size but still transportable; I wonder why there are so few 14" notebooks. Most consumer laptops are 15,6" widescreen nowadays or even in the 17" - that's friggin huge. |
That's a good example of a minor misstep (at least IMO it is a misstep).
Mine is dual-labeled with IBM & Lenovo, so I'm guessing it was pretty much an IBM. Since then, Lenovo has had time to make adjustments, and you describe one that might be an indicator of "not getting it."
They're also pushing low end stuff. Which concerns me that they'll go the way of everyone else and be a generic manufacturer of craptops.
I don't need to upgrade, so not sure when I will. I try to avoid unnecessarily dropping many hundreds of dollars :D
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HP also launched an UltraBook. Again looks like a MacBook Pro.
Don't have a link.
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| notageek wrote: | I don't think anyone here posted a link for the Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook, so here it is: http://www.dell.com/html/global/xps13/xps-13-ultrabook.html
Trying to emulate MacBook Pro. Also look at the keyboard.
Oh, and almost forgot, contains Intel Core i7, so not an under-powered device.
And the question is, would anyone go for it? |
notageek I bought one myself. I'm very happy with it. I was waiting for such a laptop for so long. I am OK to pay that price for this quality but I didn't want to give my money to Apple even though they are doing good products.
I'm now waiting for Dell to go live with its Ubuntu offer (see Sputnik project) before buying another one to my girlfriend and one for my work.
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I'd easily go for the Dell over the Mac, but I'd not buy anything w/o a real TrackPoint
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pjp, the multi touch is now working thanks to the Sputnik project.
I've created a Gentoo Wiki for the XPS 13 Ultrabook |
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You've joined the forums just to tell me that?
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| notageek wrote: | | You've joined the forums just to tell me that? |
Yes because I'm looking for other people running Gentoo on this laptop.
I've another account but couldn't reset my account password. |
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| Quote: | | The Lenovo X-Series’ smallest battery is a 4-cell compared to the 3 cell Ultrabooks, but the X201s weighs half a pound less. With a 6-cell, the X-Series is in a different league for battery life. |
hehehehehehehehehehehe  
Ultrabooks can kiss my X200s' 9cell ass.
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