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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 2:55 am    Post subject: Ultrabook: does this mean anything? Reply with quote

So the big thing at the CES was the emergence of "Ultrabooks", which are supposed to put an end to tablets.

1. How is this any different from a notebook or netbook? Did we really need a new name?

2. Does this mean drizek's notebook, netbook, or tablet is now obsolete?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 3:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I stumbled upon this term a couple weeks ago. As far as I could figure out, an "Ultrabook" is basically a non-Apple Macbook Air.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 3:24 am    Post subject: Re: Ultrabook: does this mean anything? Reply with quote

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2. Does this mean drizek's notebook, netbook, or tablet is now obsolete?


No, it means the rest of you now have a half-assed imitation.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 3:32 am    Post subject: Re: Ultrabook: does this mean anything? Reply with quote

drizek wrote:
BoneKracker wrote:
2. Does this mean drizek's notebook, netbook, or tablet is now obsolete?


No, it means the rest of you now have a half-assed imitation.

Have you got a Macbook Air?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 4:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ultrabook is owned by Intel, so it seems unlikely there will ever be an AMD based Ultrabook. So I'll just go with an ARM or whatever AMD produces.

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Intel claims a trademark in the name Ultrabook.[3] By this marketing initiative and an associated $300 million fund, Intel hopes to reinvigorate the PC market against rising competition from tablet computers, which are typically powered by rivaling ARM-based processors.[4] Announced at Computex 2011,[5] Intel's aim is that by the end of 2012, 40% of the consumer laptop market segment will be Ultrabooks.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 4:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't get why people want these under performing devices anyway.

If you want a portable computer, you need something that is as powerful as the computer your portabling. End of story.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 4:50 am    Post subject: Re: Ultrabook: does this mean anything? Reply with quote

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2. Does this mean drizek's notebook, netbook, or tablet is now obsolete?


No, it means the rest of you now have a half-assed imitation.

Have you got a Macbook Air?
Yeah. drizek is probably the worst commie in the world.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 4:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

notageek wrote:
I don't get why people want these under performing devices anyway.

If you want a portable computer, you need something that is as powerful as the computer your portabling. End of story.
You only need a computer as powerful as the tasks you intend to perform while mobile. That typically does not require the same "power."
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 4:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@rws

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 4:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, it's ThinkPad X300?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 4:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pjp wrote:
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I don't get why people want these under performing devices anyway.

If you want a portable computer, you need something that is as powerful as the computer your portabling. End of story.
You only need a computer as powerful as the tasks you intend to perform while mobile. That typically does not require the same "power."

I lean toward notageek's position on this. I've always found laptops/notebooks to be slow.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 5:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

slow for what?

It doesn't matter anymore. My Macbook Air is an ancient Core 2 Duo 1.86GHz and it is plenty fast enough. I'll probably get an Ivy Bridge one though in a few months.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I couldn't understand why anyone would want a laptop. Then I bought one, and I've never wanted an actual desktop since. My laptop is more powerful than my last desktop (though I have a newer "server" using desktop HW).

The only real limitation I've encountered was disk space and RAM. And neither were a problem for my original intended use of the laptop which did NOT include virtualization. Disk space is easily solved now, though I'm considering an SSD which wouldn't help much for space. The RAM issue is only for VirtualBox and running multiple VMs at the same time. Neither would be an issue for me using a newer laptop.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a powerful laptop. It is huge and has only enough juice to last three hours.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 5:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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slow for what?

It doesn't matter anymore. My Macbook Air is an ancient Core 2 Duo 1.86GHz and it is plenty fast enough. I'll probably get an Ivy Bridge one though in a few months.

I mean less snappy and less responsive, compared to a well-equipped desktop machine.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 5:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

with an SSD and Apple's amazing touchpad and keyboard, it is much nicer to use than a regular desktop. I am only considering an upgrade because of the high resale value of Apple products.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I admire your courage, talking about Apple that way in here.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

at home: desktop

while 'on the road': my smartphone and a mp3 player cover all my needs

at work: desktop

no need for *book at all.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ultrabooks proves that Intel is _bad_ at marketing. They have no idea about the market and hide behind likes of Dell, Acer, Lennovo etc... for it.

Instead of battling out ARM, they should themselves do R&D on it and start manufacturing it.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marketing's all Intel have got at this point and they can't even get that right. Their performance demo was prerecorded game footage. AMD's demo had prerecorded video too, but for a different reason.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marketing is all Intel has?

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I played around with the windows 8 dev preview and realized that it would be perfect for replacing the iPad. Sure enough, at CES Lenovo displays their thinkpad yoga. It's the best of both worlds: size, weight, and ease of use of the iPad with a keyboard that flips out from under it with the power of a laptop (core i-series processor). Throw in some gorilla glass 2 and Lenovo's reputation for durability, and you've got yourself one device that does everything. I see the iPad (and iPad-like tablets) seeing the same fate as the Flip camera as soon as 2013.

Windows 8 has the new unified interface, Ubuntu is moving on with Unity, and there are also a bunch of android-derived interfaces for working with touch + keyboard. How long can apple possibly keep insisting that a touchscreen will never end up on a macbook?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I see the iPad (and iPad-like tablets) seeing the same fate as the Flip camera as soon as 2013.


If I was Mitt Romney, I'd bet you $10,000 that this statement is massively, massively, wrong.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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rtomek wrote:
I see the iPad (and iPad-like tablets) seeing the same fate as the Flip camera as soon as 2013.

If I was Mitt Romney, I'd bet you $10,000 that this statement is massively, massively, wrong.

Funboi alert! :P
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

energyman76b wrote:
at home: desktop

while 'on the road': my smartphone and a mp3 player cover all my needs

at work: desktop

no need for *book at all.


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I suppose if I was away from either of my desks for a long time, then a laptop/ultrabook/tablet with slide keybaord would be useful.
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