app-office/libreoffice-bin-3.4.3.2-r1 too many packages

yellowhat · Guru Joined: 10 Sep 2008 Posts: 528

Hi all.
I have just updated my portage tree and I get this new update of libreoffice-bin: app-office/libreoffice-bin-3.4.3.2-r1, but it wants to emerge all this stuff:

mikegpitt · Advocate Joined: 22 May 2004 Posts: 3224

In a word, yes. You can look at all the dependencies by browsing the ebuild here: /usr/portage/app-office/libreoffice/libreoffice-3.4.3.2-r1.ebuild

I take it that since packages are all marked as new merges, that you are performing the installation of libreoffice following a fresh install?

yellowhat · Guru Joined: 10 Sep 2008 Posts: 528

No, I installed gentoo one month ago.
I have all packages that I need: gnome-light, chrome, ...
That's why I asked about so many new packages requesting by libreoffice-bin

John R. Graham · Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 5:07 pm Post subject:

It's a fresh install of libreoffice, though, right? Libreoffice is a monster. What you're seeing is normal.

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yellowhat · Guru Joined: 10 Sep 2008 Posts: 528

No it isn't a fresh install of libreoffice-bin; now I am using app-office/libreoffice-bin-3.4.3-r2, this problem comes when I try to upgrade.

John R. Graham · Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 5:37 pm Post subject:

Well, it's still almost certainly normal. libreoffice is moving really fast.

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yellowhat · Guru Joined: 10 Sep 2008 Posts: 528

Ok thanks I will emerge all that stuff

tassilo80 · Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 5:19 pm Post subject:

toralf · Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:41 pm Post subject:

John R. Graham · Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:47 pm Post subject:

I can't really agree. The compile time of libreoffice completely dwarfs the compile time of these dependencies. I see the justification as reducing bloat.

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Hwoarang · Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 7:42 am Post subject:

The libreoffice-bin uses the desktop profile use flags. This is why you get so many dependencies. If you want to reduce them you have to build it yourself

toralf · Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:18 am Post subject:

mikegpitt · Advocate Joined: 22 May 2004 Posts: 3224

Usually decisions like this are due to upstream changes, so it is quite possible that upstream is requiring that the binary is depending on all these packages.

khumba · n00b Joined: 16 Jun 2011 Posts: 51

On the other hand, most of those look like they're being pulled in because of USE=java. Any idea how many features LibreOffice loses without Java support?

scarabeus · Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 7:12 pm Post subject:

It really is not too many

With no useflags set it is few 1MB large packages which are just unbundled dependencies.
If you set java/gnome/kde then it is completely different story of course...

khumba · n00b Joined: 16 Jun 2011 Posts: 51

Wow, deps do go way down... Thanks, I'm setting a preemptive '>=app-office/libreoffice-bin-3.4.3.2-r1 -java' in package.use for when this hits stable.

morpheus2051 · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 07 May 2006 Posts: 95

What bugs me that it is pulling in media-libs/gstreamer no matter what. Well I masked this update for the time beeing.

jchau · n00b Joined: 15 Mar 2007 Posts: 74

Shucks. I like having the Presenter Console extension available (and I seem to need to enable the java use flag for extensions). So I guess I'll have to install these 43 new packages.

The explanation that libreoffice-bin used to ship these as precompiled libraries doesn't really make sense to me though. My previous (current) version of libreoffice was emerged from source (so it seems improbable that it was previously bundled as precompiled libraries) instead of libreoffice-bin and these 43 dependencies are new for me too.

It seems like most of these new dependencies arise from the new dependency on dev-java/saxon, which appears optional [enabled with --with-saxon-jar=$(java-pkg_getjar saxon saxon8.jar)] from the ebuild. I wonder if this option is worth adding so many dependencies and whether it'll be appropriate to make saxon optional with another use-flag.