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PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow.

Outstanding finale. For me, that was the best TV drama of all time. So what the hell am I going to watch now?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

‘Breaking Bad’ Ends With Reveal That Whole Series Was Plot Of Book Marie Shoplifted

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice to have one final, classic Heisenberg stratagem: dangerous, ruthless and at times edge-of-the seat tense, ending with all his enemies dead and the money on its way to where he wants it whilst simultaneously taking revenge for an old grievance.

Break out the Deadwood dvd's if you're going cold turkey for a ruthless, murdering anti-hero.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Story Of Small Businessman Struggling Under Obama Administration Draws To Close.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good ending to a great show.

"The whole thing felt kind of shady. You know, like morality-wise." - Skinny Pete
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wasn't a huge fan of the ending. Walt got closure, and got to feel like a hero by killing neo-nazis. He didn't deserve either.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 1:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I wasn't a huge fan of the ending. Walt got closure, and got to feel like a hero by killing neo-nazis. He didn't deserve either.

I felt that way on my first viewing but not after my second viewing. Yes, killing Nazis is generally considered heroic but there was no suggestion that Walt felt like a hero. He died at peace, which I think is fine. Walt "got what he deserved" in Ozymandias; this was everyone else getting what was deserved.

(I think Jesse deserved to live and Walt's children deserve a mother.)
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I wasn't a huge fan of the ending. Walt got closure, and got to feel like a hero by killing neo-nazis. He didn't deserve either.

I felt that way on my first viewing but not after my second viewing.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 3:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I watch every episode at least twice: first by myself and second with my wife while pretending I haven't seen it yet. Say my name.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I wasn't a huge fan of the ending. Walt got closure, and got to feel like a hero by killing neo-nazis. He didn't deserve either.
Yes. This was a sell out. TVs most evil man turns out to be good. PC ending.

I'd have liked it to end with Walt becoming a proper mob boss and killing everybody else.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I wasn't a huge fan of the ending. Walt got closure, and got to feel like a hero by killing neo-nazis. He didn't deserve either.
Yes. This was a sell out. TVs most evil man turns out to be good. PC ending.

I'd have liked it to end with Walt becoming a proper mob boss and killing everybody else.

Personally, I wanted him to die alone, knowing that his family would never get his money, and didn't want it, because of his meglomania. And maybe have to watch the neo-nazis run his meth empire, just to highlight how evil his creation was.

The episode went half-way there, but pulled its punches at the end. The part where he found a clever way to get money to his kid is the part that bothers me the most. That one piece almost justifies everything Walt did, in his view.

Perhaps my view is too simplistic and moralistic though. Bad guys loose in the end and all.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, simplistic and moralistic :)

I like to see bad guys winning because that's what happens in real life.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They were never going to go for a moralistic ending. It would have gone against the character they'd created. Heisenberg was too smart and too daring to lose.

We wanted to see him in action one last time, taking impossible risks but winning through with a clever plan. It wasn't just Walt who turned to evil: the whole audience turned with him.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I wasn't a huge fan of the ending. Walt got closure, and got to feel like a hero by killing neo-nazis. He didn't deserve either.
Yes. This was a sell out. TVs most evil man turns out to be good. PC ending.

I'd have liked it to end with Walt becoming a proper mob boss and killing everybody else.

Personally, I wanted him to die alone, knowing that his family would never get his money, and didn't want it, because of his meglomania. And maybe have to watch the neo-nazis run his meth empire, just to highlight how evil his creation was.

The episode went half-way there, but pulled its punches at the end. The part where he found a clever way to get money to his kid is the part that bothers me the most. That one piece almost justifies everything Walt did, in his view.

Perhaps my view is too simplistic and moralistic though. Bad guys loose in the end and all.


I think that would be a better ending too. Not everyone gets what they deserve and some do.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I wasn't a huge fan of the ending. Walt got closure, and got to feel like a hero by killing neo-nazis. He didn't deserve either.
Yes. This was a sell out. TVs most evil man turns out to be good. PC ending.

I'd have liked it to end with Walt becoming a proper mob boss and killing everybody else.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 4:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The finale was okay, bordering on good. Not spectacular, or mind blowing, and it was too clean and tidy, but overall I liked it well enough to not be annoyed by it.

But... that fucking scene where Walt duct tapes the hot and neutral lead from the 120VAC garage door opener to the jumper cables, and then connects the other end of the jumper cables to the 12VDC battery and presses the button on the remote starter and the homemade gun auto-turret starts magically spinning really bugged me. Just a couple more props and a little consultation from someone who had more than an elementary understanding of electricity and they could have made it look like a realistic and feasible setup.

It made me realize that chemists must really find Breaking Bad really annoying.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Wow.

Outstanding finale. For me, that was the best TV drama of all time. So what the hell am I going to watch now?


I really loved the series, but I think my all time ranking is (I might get lynched here)

1) sopranos
2) breaking bad, the wire.

I say this because I felt too often that breaking bad had a contrived feel to it. Walt was often in control and had very elaborate plots to get more control, and it all falls apart after hank takes a shit in his bathroom. All cool, but somehow I don't like that as much.

Life just happened in the Sopranos.

However, damn great series. To contradict myself above, I did like walt's brain going to work on somethings.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Walter White's official Obit
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hated the ending of Breaking Bad. The whole idea of Walter White as Heisenberg was a fuck you to the world. So I expected that to be how it ends, with a bigger fuck you.

But it ended with an apology. WTF?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The ending was fine. You wanted to see Heisenberg kick ass? Heisenberg was gone, having been caught and arrested by Hank. You wanted Walt to suffer? He lost everything, his family shattered and turned against him, he saw has brother killed, and he spent his last months sick, ruined, and utterly alone. But he was also a genius, and he outsmarted everyone one last time, and maybe found a little bit of humanity in the process. The ending didn't blow me away but it was a fine ending.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 1:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anthony Hopkins' 'Breaking Bad' Fan Letter To Bryan Cranston

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Dear Mister Cranston.
I wanted to write you this email - so I am contacting you through Jeremy Barber - I take it we are both represented by UTA. Great agency.

I've just finished a marathon of watching "BREAKING BAD" - from episode one of the First Season - to the last eight episodes of the Sixth Season. [Ed note: There are in fact five seasons of Breaking Bad; this might have been wishful thinking.] (I downloaded the last season on AMAZON) A total of two weeks (addictive) viewing.

I have never watched anything like it. Brilliant!

Your performance as Walter White was the best acting I have seen - ever.

I know there is so much smoke blowing and sickening bullshit in this business, and I've sort of lost belief in anything really.

But this work of yours is spectacular - absolutely stunning. What is extraordinary, is the sheer power of everyone in the entire production. What was it? Five or six years in the making? How the producers (yourself being one of them), the writers, directors, cinematographers.... every department - casting etc. managed to keep the discipline and control from beginning to the end is (that over used word) awesome.

From what started as a black comedy, descended into a labyrinth of blood, destruction and hell. It was like a great Jacobean, Shakespearian or Greek Tragedy.

If you ever get a chance to - would you pass on my admiration to everyone - Anna Gunn, Dean Norris, Aaron Paul, Betsy Brandt, R.J. Mitte, Bob Odenkirk, Jonathan Banks, Steven Michael Quezada - everyone - everyone gave master classes of performance ... The list is endless.

Thank you. That kind of work/artistry is rare, and when, once in a while, it occurs, as in this epic work, it restores confidence.

You and all the cast are the best actors I've ever seen.

That may sound like a good lung full of smoke blowing. But it is not. It's almost midnight out here in Malibu, and I felt compelled to write this email.

Congratulations and my deepest respect. You are truly a great, great actor.

Best regards

Tony Hopkins.

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I expect to watch it eventually, but even with all the praise, the plot doesn't sound the least bit compelling.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I expect to watch it eventually, but even with all the praise, the plot doesn't sound the least bit compelling.

We know, you said that 825 days ago.
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We know, you said that 825 days ago.


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@ pjp : It is something you just watch from the pilot forward. If it doesn't work for you, no problem. If it does... be prepared to watch it until the end.
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