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PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2002 6:45 pm    Post subject: ogle or xine? Reply with quote

i havent installed either since my last install of gentoo. my only attempt at xine the last time i tried was miserable , it wouldnt play anything because of encryption.

ogle on the other hand played every dvd i had.

is anyone running xine now without any issues?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2002 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't tell you about ogle but I have heard good things about mplayer.

http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2002 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been using xine for about 3 months on gentoo with no problems. I don't remember jumping through any hoops to get it going, it just worked.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2002 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ogle has always looked crap to me - xine is better when it work
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2002 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you mean the actual display of ogle looks worse tehn xine or are you talking about the gui of ogle? l

ast time i had it installed i didnt even install the gui i just used the keyboard.

i have heard about mplayer but didnt realize it also played dvd's , thanks for the link.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2002 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

xine workes fine for me. I just emerged libdvdnav first thing to make sure everything needed was installed. I just have to be sure to click on the "Nav" button after loading and dvd and then the play button.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2002 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed. I tried ogle and it just didn't work for me, perioid.

Xine works great and has always been easy to use...
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2002 1:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

so which of these would need to be emerged and in what order to have xine work properly?

rommel # emerge -s xine
[ Results for search key : xine ]
[ Applications found : 7 ]

* media-libs/xine-lib
Latest version Available: 0.9.12-r1
Latest version Installed: [ Not Installed ]
Homepage: http://xine.sourceforge.net/
Description: Xine is a free gpl-licensed video player for unix-like
systems

* media-video/xine-d4d
Latest version Available: 0.3.2-r1
Latest version Installed: [ Not Installed ]
Homepage: http://members.fortunecity.de/captaincss/
Description:
Captain CSS plugin for the xine media player

* media-video/xine-d5d
Latest version Available: 0.2.7
Latest version Installed: [ Not Installed ]
Homepage: http://members.fortunecity.de/captaincss/
Description:
Captain CSS menu plugin for the xine media player

* media-video/xine-dmd
Latest version Available: 1.0.6
Latest version Installed: [ Not Installed ]
Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/xinedvdplugin/
Description:
DMD plugin for DVD playback for Xine player.

* media-video/xine-dvdnav
Latest version Available: 0.9.12
Latest version Installed: [ Not Installed ]
Homepage: http://dvd.sourceforge.net/
Description: DVD Navigator plugin for Xine. Also add CSS decription
support.

* media-video/xine-ui
Latest version Available: 0.9.12
Latest version Installed: [ Not Installed ]
Homepage: http://xine.sourceforge.net/
Description: Xine is a free gpl-licensed video player for unix-like
systems

anyone seen the kxine that has been released.....front end palyer for kde3...looks pretty nice
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2002 5:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'd need xine-lib which basically IS xine. Everything else is optional.

xine-ui will give you a GUI though so you want that :) Also, xine-d4d/xine-d5d/xine-dvdnav and xine-dmd will give you playback of encrypted dvds.

Code:
emerge xine-lib xine-ui xine-dvdnav


will give you everything you need :)
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2002 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well i ran 'emerge xine-dvdnav''then xine-ui' , i think that covered most all of it...i have a dvd from the new dmb cd 'busted' thats playing now. the player gui is cool adn the display looks pretty good.

do you need d4d and d5d, do they add more versatility to playing encrypted dvd's or are they for handling different formats?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2002 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rommel wrote:
well i ran 'emerge xine-dvdnav''then xine-ui' , i think that covered most all of it...i have a dvd from the new dmb cd 'busted' thats playing now. the player gui is cool adn the display looks pretty good.

do you need d4d and d5d, do they add more versatility to playing encrypted dvd's or are they for handling different formats?


d5d allows you to use the DVD's menuing system.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2002 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And so does dvdnav :) I use dvdnav as it just seemed to work better for me. Try them all if you want. Won't do any harm.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2002 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

karmakillernz wrote:
And so does dvdnav :) I use dvdnav as it just seemed to work better for me. Try them all if you want. Won't do any harm.


Yup. dvdnav works better anyway.

d5d will not let you scan through tracks like dvdnav will...
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2002 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I personally like Ogle better,
the guil is a little ugly, but I prefer the simplicity of 1 tool 1 job to the xine method of playing anything video related... clicking 3 buttons to start a DVD to me is retarded and unintuitive, when I can just type /dev/cdroms/cdrom1, hit enter, and walla ogle pops up the movie.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2002 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well the last time i tried to install xine it wouldnt play a dvd...it kept complaining about the encryption...but this time it worked...i have no idea what i did the first time to mess the install up.

ogle was fine...i liked its simplicity too...but xine is nice..and the gui is better. i only have to press the nav button and then play....so hardly a complicated or unintuitive
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2002 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

xine i've never gotten ogle to work with my dxr3 decoder card.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2002 2:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

xine, mplayer, ogle...
Nope, VLC here, thank you!
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2002 6:14 am    Post subject: all your xine and ogle are belong to mplayer. Reply with quote

all your xine and ogle are belong to mplayer.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2002 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm, I dont see why people like mplayer, my friend keeps telling me it kicks ass. but for me xine is 2X better 8)
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2002 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mplayer isnt current though unless you use cvs and build it yourself i think.

xine is working great and it looks awsome
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2002 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mplayer is nice because it plays every video format known to x86. (literally)

And aalib output is cool. =)

Anyone know how to get rid of the goddamn counter in the upper-left hand corner of the screen though?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2002 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

so mplayer will play windows media files?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2002 1:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes. Versions 7 and 8.

I actually lied somewhat... there are some broken codecs, the only one of note being a weird variation on Realplayer 8.

It actually uses the windows dll's of the codecs themselves- not sure how, but...
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2002 4:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pigeon wrote:
Anyone know how to get rid of the goddamn counter in the upper-left hand corner of the screen though?

1. man mplayer
2. section "KEYBOARD CONTROL"
3. subsection "general control"
4. key "o"
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2002 4:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Anyone know how to get rid of the goddamn counter in the upper-left hand corner of the screen though?


Add the following line in /etc/mplayer.conf:
osdlevel=0
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