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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2003 6:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Further designs will be forthcoming shortly, based on the principles of simple clean, valid xhtml and css layout. No imagery.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2003 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

we also have a submission from pryde

http://www.pryde.org/gp

whaich one does everyone else like?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2003 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Xiderpunk wrote:
The first design scamp idea is up at: http://www.toadweb.net/portage/design1.htm please can I have any feedback.. bearing in mind this is tempory content, intended to show design.

None of the links work.. btw.


ooo...I like...very well laid out and soft on the eyes :D
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2003 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks :-)

I will continue to add to the one page for the time being, for consistancy reasons, so it is going to appear pretty crowded. Once the layout looks "right" the content can then be broken up into the different individual pages.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2003 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice design. I like the color scheme :)

I was going to do that but a minor problem with the floating is when you have not enough news on the page. (Example).

I finally have mine up and running. (pryde.org/gp) Pure CSS design is frickin hard to do cross browser (and Linux has a ton of them!). I will work on a logo image a bit later today.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2003 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, I like your design also. :-)

Yeah the floating divs is one minor irritation, I can fix that, at the moment I am just trying to get the layout correct and not too worried about bugs.

CSS layout can be hard, although making the pages XHTML strict/1.1 compliant will go a fair way to achieving the same result cross-browser. Invariably major page divisions using a single layout table is almostly certainly the most compatable option, at least till better support for CSS 2.0 arrives.

Personally I hate using layout tables, but we are probably another year from being able to move on with confidence.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2003 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SPP can you drop me a mail at: chris AT toadweb.co.uk :-)
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2003 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The layout is much cleaner, nicer color scheme. Very nice :)
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2003 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Suggestion about multiple pages in search results: why not have the different pages numbered, instead of having to next next next through them if a search term yields a lot of results?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2003 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Retriever II wrote:
Suggestion about multiple pages in search results: why not have the different pages numbered, instead of having to next next next through them if a search term yields a lot of results?


a big search everything with the letter a in it :)

well there ay go :)
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2003 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

'-' yields more :twisted:
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2003 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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'-' yields more :twisted:

heh, just watched you on the log, your really using the site :D
i aslo added in support to view related bugs, its just a link to a search on the gentoo bugzilla... im going to work on that later
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2003 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How are ebuild-specific comments handled? I submitted a comment for nasm 0.98.36 (latest stable release), but it didn't show up. Perhaps you set it to remove the ebuild comments regardless of stability in the tree?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2003 11:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok, so mayby i wont get news done today... got side tracked too many times..

there are now links to bugs, it calls up the cvs file from the gentoo bugtracker parses it and then posts it on my page. YAY!!

it seems a little slow, but thats the time it takes to grab the file from the bug server.... i'll have to try to fix this later, or get a workaround.

EDIT: apparently there was some problems with my array to ls_style_array function, i have since fixed this.

i am very proud of this little function :), so i have decided to post it.

here it is:
Code:
function ls_style_array($myArray, $columnCount){

   $arrayCount = count($myArray);
   $returnArray = array();

   $tempArray = array();

   if ($arrayCount <= $columnCount){
      return $myArray;
   }

   $y = 0;
   $currentPos = 0;
   while ($currentPos < $arrayCount AND $y < $columnCount) {
      for ( $x=0;  $x < floor(($arrayCount / 4) + abs(1 - ($y / $columnCount) - .0001)); $x++ ){
         $tempArray[$y][] = $myArray[$currentPos];

         $currentPos ++;
      }
      $y++;
   }

   $x = 0;
   while($x * $columnCount < $arrayCount){
      for ( $y=0;  $y < 4 ; $y++){
         if ( isset($tempArray[$y][$x]) ){
            $returnArray[] = $tempArray[$y][$x];
         }
      }
      $x++;
   }
   
   return $returnArray;
}


if there is a better way to do this, please tell me.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2003 4:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

code that may or may not compile: (i'm too lazy to actually check it)

Code:
function ls_style_array($arrayin, $colcount){

  $acount = count($arrayin);

  $offset = $acount / $colcount;
  $returnArray = array();

  if($acount <= $colcount)
    return $arrayin;

  $idx = 0;
  $tmparray = array();
  for($col = 0;$col<$colcount;$col++){
    for($row = 0;$row<$offset;$row++)
      if($idx < $acount)
        $tmparray[$col][] = $arrayin[$idx++];
    $returnArray[] = $tmparray;
    $tmparray = array();
  }
  return $returnArray;
}


EDIT: added bound-checking on $arrayin
EDIT2: fixed really really stupid mistake in previous edit


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2003 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Suggestion:

When making comments, some basic formatting tags would be very useful, particularly some method of adding spaces, since neither a space or & will actually work when viewed. Something like an [indent] tag for adding a few spaces between lines would certainly make things a little more presentable in some comments.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 7:18 am    Post subject: now just need gentooupdate.localhost or gentooupdate.gento Reply with quote

I suppose most of you have seen the windows update website.

I think it would be great if we could just use our web browser on our local machine to view the admin page... a little daemon could be run as user portage... and it could require a password... then it could list the security updates and all in their proper catagories.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 12:10 pm    Post subject: Re: now just need gentooupdate.localhost or gentooupdate.g Reply with quote

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I suppose most of you have seen the windows update website.

I think it would be great if we could just use our web browser on our local machine to view the admin page... a little daemon could be run as user portage... and it could require a password... then it could list the security updates and all in their proper catagories.

-AP


Microsoft's Software Update Services (SUS) are an extension of Windows update. They allow a domain admin to approve updates that get sent to clients via group policy. I use this system on the order of once a week.

And we can do a whole lot better. I find the SUS package as an admirable attempt to deploy fixes faster, but the interface is clunky and minimal at best. You can do almost nothing with it. The portage website is so much better already in interface design. Sure, it doesn't do as much in regards to actual updates, but it'll get there. Let's not compare this to SUS in the future. It's like comparing a half-built Lamborghini to a vintage Beetle.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey we made the GWN
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 2:49 pm    Post subject: Re: now just need gentooupdate.localhost or gentooupdate.g Reply with quote

carambola5 wrote:
Air-Op wrote:
I suppose most of you have seen the windows update website.

I think it would be great if we could just use our web browser on our local machine to view the admin page... a little daemon could be run as user portage... and it could require a password... then it could list the security updates and all in their proper catagories.

-AP


Microsoft's Software Update Services (SUS) are an extension of Windows update. They allow a domain admin to approve updates that get sent to clients via group policy. I use this system on the order of once a week.

And we can do a whole lot better. I find the SUS package as an admirable attempt to deploy fixes faster, but the interface is clunky and minimal at best. You can do almost nothing with it. The portage website is so much better already in interface design. Sure, it doesn't do as much in regards to actual updates, but it'll get there. Let's not compare this to SUS in the future. It's like comparing a half-built Lamborghini to a vintage Beetle.

this does sound like a good idea on something to do, eventually anyway... its still a long way off. i also got some great suggestions in my email.

some charts/graphs from about users packages etc..., and a couple suggestions concerning dependencies.

i will try to get on these soon.

i would also like to anounce our new perl programmer ravnx, i have put him in charge of the stats... we should see something soon from him.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

**** UPDATE ****
ok i moved the entire site to a new template engine last night, it seems to be holding up nicly. i have replaces the breadcrumbs engine. And lastly i have added the ability to see all use flags associated with each ebuild, i know people have been waiting for that one.

enjoy.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't delved into your code very much, but there does seem to be a slight issue with page refreshes.

There is a difference between clicking on "Browse Portage" and clicking through things there, and between entering a search term and hitting Submit.

If I am browsing, each click causes the whole page to be reloaded, whereas submitting a search seems to leave the sidebar and top alone, and only repopulate the center area.

Could the latter behaviour be implemented throughout the site, so things aren't refreshed if they don't need to be? Perhaps it's just a quirk.

Other than that, this site is coming together very nicely!
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The page always refreshes for me regardless, it must be the way your browser is acting. Without implementing frames, I can't see how you'd get only part of the page and not the rest to refresh anyway.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Retriever II wrote:
The page always refreshes for me regardless, it must be the way your browser is acting. Without implementing frames, I can't see how you'd get only part of the page and not the rest to refresh anyway.


or it could be that the output is cached a certain way when one action is performed, and a different way when the other action is performed, thus giving the appearance of refreshing part of the page in one case.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah, on every page you refresh the entire page, i do not want to use frames. there just bad. but when the new design comes it should make each page a little lighter on the html side, the page should load much faster and you should notice it refreshing less. other then that i dont think there is much i can do.

oh i dont think i mentioned this, but you can now view related bugs for each and every package (if they exist)
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