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curmudgeon Veteran

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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 1:15 pm Post subject: Trying to do anything at all with wine |
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I just installed wine for the first time (running stable x86 gentoo with kde).
So far, I am not impressed.
First of all, is there supposed to be some menu entry for wine? I found nothing, even looking through the files via qlist.
I could not get any sound at all (using the test from winecfg). The documentation suggested as a troubleshooting technique trying to send random data to /dev/dsp (that produced a quick "Device or resource busy"). Sound works perfectly otherwise on the machine.
Finally (and most important), I have not yet been able to find any application that will even install with wine. The programs will just stop (the window disappears) early in the installation without any message or log files.
Does anyone know how to get this to work? |
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avx Veteran


Joined: 21 Jun 2004 Posts: 1831
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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a) run `winecfg` -> set your prefered settings (windows version, libraries native vs built-in, etc)
b) run the installer from the shell (`wine path/to/exe`)
c) if it fails, check the output for clues
d) get yourself a copy of http://www.kegel.com/wine/winetricks
e) use winetricks to install the most common dependencies, i.e. directx, dotnet, etc
f) try again
g) if it still fails, google for the desired app/game in combination with the error messages or look up appdb
In general, wine runs really good, I've got some games, Adobe CS2 and MS Office running without major issues. Heavily depends on what you want, though, some apps just won't run, so either google beforehand or tell us, what you want/need. _________________ Want to thank me for something? Send me a nice postcard(ask per pm for my address), thank you! |
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XQYZ Apprentice


Joined: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 231 Location: Europe
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Especially consider installing all that MS crap such as Windows Installer, dot Net/mono, DirectX. That's usually why stuff fails. "Normal Apps" usually work without much hazzle thought. For everything else there's the Wine App DB. |
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curmudgeon Veteran

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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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| avx wrote: | | a) run `winecfg` -> set your prefered settings (windows version, libraries native vs built-in, etc) |
Did that.
| avx wrote: | | b) run the installer from the shell (`wine path/to/exe`) |
Did that.
| avx wrote: | | c) if it fails, check the output for clues |
No output. Installation just quit on the first window without any warning.
Will do that.
| avx wrote: | | e) use winetricks to install the most common dependencies, i.e. directx, dotnet, etc |
Will do that.
Did a lot of that. :(
| avx wrote: | | g) if it still fails, google for the desired app/game in combination with the error messages or look up appdb |
I can't find the apps in the appdb.
| avx wrote: | | some apps just won't run, so either google beforehand or tell us, what you want/need. |
I have several, but lets start with one that looks simple. Nodtronics Crazy Mini Golf, published in 2002. It lists as its system requirements: "Pentium II 266 MHz, 32MB RAM, 90MB hard disk space for installation, 800 x 600 screen resolution, 16-Bit colour, 3D video card, sound card, CD ROM, mouse, Windows 98, ME, 2000, or XP." Those don't seem particularly challenging. :)
Again, is there supposed to be a kde menu entry for wine? And any ideas why I am not getting anything when I do the sound test in winecfg?
Thanks. |
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Apheus Tux's lil' helper

Joined: 12 Jul 2008 Posts: 146
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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| winetricks is in portage, you just need to unmask it (app-emulation/winetricks) |
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avx Veteran


Joined: 21 Jun 2004 Posts: 1831
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Again, is there supposed to be a kde menu entry for wine? | ]Don't know, I'm not running kde/gnome. But I know that, if an application install is successful and it would generate shortcuts (menu/desktop) on windows, you normally get a shortcut in your menu - at least that's the case on my wife's box for some apps.
| Quote: | | And any ideas why I am not getting anything when I do the sound test in winecfg? | What sound-system are we talking? Plain ALSA/OSS, extra layers like phonon/pulseaudio/...? On my wife's box, I had to switch the output in pulseaudio (gnome-panel thingy, surely there's something in kde for that, kmixer?) from 'headphones' to 'stereo speakers', to get any sound out of it.
As for your game, I don't know it, only thing I could find possibly related is Crazy Mini Golf from Crystal Interactive 12/2001. If that's not it, can you share a link or the files if they are free? _________________ Want to thank me for something? Send me a nice postcard(ask per pm for my address), thank you! |
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gerard82 Veteran


Joined: 04 Jan 2004 Posts: 1927 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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I have q4wine installed.
It's a gui for configuring and starting wine.
Works nicely with wine-1.2.1.
Gerard. _________________ To install Gentoo I use sysrescuecd.Based on Gentoo,has Firefox to browse Gentoo docs and mc to browse (and edit) files.
The same disk can be used for 32 and 64 bit installs.
You can follow the Handbook verbatim.
http://www.sysresccd.org/Download |
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Raptor85 Apprentice

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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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you can also associate .exe files with WINE in your WM, then simply double click the .exe to run it. Sound errors are generally due to running a daemon such as pulseaudio or jack and not having wine compiled/set up to use them.
run the exe from the shell using
WINEDEBUG="+all" wine path/to/exe/file.exe
and post up what the shell says, consider adding it to appdb since it seems this is a currently unknown application, and like said, some programs just wont run on current systems , especially ones that do nasty things like try to directly modify protected memory, or basically have their own built in video card drivers, for stuff like that you need a full emulator (stuff like that wont run on a current windows system either btw). The system requirements are fairly irrelevant in WINE, chance of a program running is more dependent on how much the developers of it actually followed how API's are supposed to be used, and not used "little tricks". |
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Chewi l33t


Joined: 01 Sep 2003 Posts: 725 Location: Perth, Scotland
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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| I've found Wine has come on leaps and bounds in the last couple of years. It's certainly a hell of a lot more reliable than it was, say, 5 years ago. The sound test in winecfg has never worked very well (who knows why!?) so just try something else that makes a noise instead. I've used ALSA with Wine before and now use PulseAudio and have never had much trouble with either. Also consider trying the ~x86 version of Wine. It'll probably run more things than the current "stable" version. |
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