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PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here at work I just inherited a Sun E450:

4 x 400MHz UltraSparcII cpu
4Gb memory
10/100 NIC on motherboard
4 x 10/100 quad NIC
11 x 18Gb SCSI disks (one dead, thinks it's a 1Gb)
1 dead cdrom drive

Linux: 2.4.21-sparc-r1
Solaris: 5.6 - won't boot though, takes some kind of fault and halts.

Still trying to decide what to do with it. No display adaptor/keyboard or I'd use it to replace my aging 500MHz Compaq Deskpro.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dontremember wrote:
Still trying to decide what to do with it. No display adaptor/keyboard or I'd use it to replace my aging 500MHz Compaq Deskpro.


I'd love to work with a head- and keyboard less box. Send it to me :P
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2003 5:27 pm    Post subject: Network error Reply with quote

Weeve wrote:
Can you elaborate on the Ultra 1 bug you are talking about here?


I think he is likely talking about a bug in the Happy Meal Ethernet on the Ultra1. There was a bug in the driver up to 2.4.20 which was probably fixed in a recent patch and would make its way into .21.

When you are living with the bug, a burst of data will freeze the ethernet device and you must reboot to recover. The patch introduced a small timing delay and that avoided the bug. This was a fix to the kernel driver, not specific to Gentoo.

I went through this problem on Debian on the Ultra 1 Creator 3D.

If you look at the source code for hme in the kernel sources, you'll see lots of choice comments by the coder related to working with the hardware.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2003 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ulot wrote:
I've got a random number of Sunblade 1000 with dual UltraIII 900mhz with 1.5 Gb of RAM. I say random because the project that they were used on died so they were just stored in my office. I've started playing around with them installing gentoo and such. Now that they have gentoo on them all the sudden people are interested in using them again haha. Oh well. Probabably for the best. I don't think my boss would have been happy that I was using a $15K machine as a nethack server, but its not like anyone wanted the things then.


How did you manage to install Gentoo on them? I always get "Fast MMU miss" errors when i try to boot the gentoo cds... I managed to boot SuSe, but that distribution didn't see the hard-drive, so I couldn't use it to hot-wire gentoo onto it.

My box is a Sun Blade 1000 w/750mhz cpu and 512mb ram, running OBP 4.6, which I've read might be a problem...


Oh, and to keep on topic, I also have:


    Sun Fire V100 w/500mhz cpu and 1024mb ram
    SPARCstation 4, w/110mhz cpu and 128mb ram (I think)
    SPARCstation 10, w/2x50mhz cpu and 192mb ram (2x150mhz hypersparc once I get hold of the latest OBP chip)


EDIT: I am now also running gentoo on the Sun Blade 1000, thanks to the Aurora project, just about the only distribution that would boot AND had the appropriate drivers... Now I'll venture into the land of XFree.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2003 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kluzz wrote:
How did you manage to install Gentoo on them? I always get "Fast MMU miss" errors when i try to boot the gentoo cds... I managed to boot SuSe, but that distribution didn't see the hard-drive, so I couldn't use it to hot-wire gentoo onto it.

This should be fixed in the latest Experimental LiveCD. When you install a kernel, you'll probably have to use 2.4.22 or later.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2003 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ciaranm wrote:
kluzz wrote:
How did you manage to install Gentoo on them? I always get "Fast MMU miss" errors when i try to boot the gentoo cds... I managed to boot SuSe, but that distribution didn't see the hard-drive, so I couldn't use it to hot-wire gentoo onto it.

This should be fixed in the latest Experimental LiveCD. When you install a kernel, you'll probably have to use 2.4.22 or later.


The latest one I've found is gentoo-sparc64-1.4_rc4-13Aug2003.iso.bz2 and it still tells me: SILO Fast Data Access MMU Miss when i type boot cdrom, even after reset-all and various other tricks.

Perhaps I should try the 32-bit LiveCD?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2003 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi!

I am the proud new owner of an Ultra 5 w/ 360mhz/512mb/8.3gb HD. Bought it on ebay b/c I always thought owning a sun would be fun.

I have gentoo on a bunch of x86 hardware but this is my first non-x86 install (currently in process).

So I hope you guys don't mind some dumb questions!

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2003 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
I am the proud new owner of an Ultra 5 w/ 360mhz/512mb/8.3gb HD. Bought it on ebay b/c I always thought owning a sun would be fun.


Greetings and congrats on the hardware.

Quote:
I have gentoo on a bunch of x86 hardware but this is my first non-x86 install (currently in process).

So I hope you guys don't mind some dumb questions!


No worries. If they can tolerate my presence around here, I'm sure you'll get along just fine. I just finished my first Gentoo installation last week on an Ultra 30 and it's only gone down when the power went out. It was the fastest machine to recover and I didn't have to help it at all.

I'm sure you'll do well with the installation. Have fun with it.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 8:48 pm    Post subject: I love Sparc!!! Reply with quote

Just recently I got off of the X86 rut, with a $10 sparc5. (a beautiful 85mhz sparc5 router (256meg ram, 4 gig conner hdd, and a couple of happy meals.)

Within a week, I was craving something a little faster. So now I have an Ultra10 360mhz IIi, 512 meg ram, 8 gig barracuda...a bit small, raptor gfx (permedia2 which is not compiled into the livecd kernel) and the best flavor of linux ever. (of course, gentoo)


anybody know why I can't compile sparc-sources without smp. I only have one processor at the moment for the Ultra10.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 7:28 pm    Post subject: No SMP here Reply with quote

I had no problem compiling sparc sources from my single CPU Ultra1.

What are your details?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 7:37 pm    Post subject: Diff in sunhme.c with patch Reply with quote

Here is the diff report between the sunhme.c driver with and without
the patch on kernel 2.4.22 sources (has not changed recently as I
had hoped it might):

Code:

$ diff sunhme.c.orig sunhme.c
1985a1986
>       udelay(1);    /* This is the magic line for the Ultra 1 */


This made a great deal of difference to the ethernet device
HME stability on Debian with 2.4.20 kernel, and from what we see
in the sunhme.c version headers, this driver code is still old and
hasn't been updated so the patch most likely still applies.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dontremember wrote:
Here at work I just inherited a Sun E450:

4 x 400MHz UltraSparcII cpu
4Gb memory
10/100 NIC on motherboard
4 x 10/100 quad NIC
11 x 18Gb SCSI disks (one dead, thinks it's a 1Gb)
1 dead cdrom drive

Linux: 2.4.21-sparc-r1
Solaris: 5.6 - won't boot though, takes some kind of fault and halts.

Still trying to decide what to do with it. No display adaptor/keyboard or I'd use it to replace my aging 500MHz Compaq Deskpro.


Now running kernel 2.6.0-test9, built from the vanilla source:

Linux version 2.6.0-test9-bk17 (root@bbsnp02) (gcc version 3.3.1) #8 SMP Thu Nov 13 03:41:58 CST 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well thanks to KG&E's lousy work after a nasty wind storm, I lost the hard drive in my Ultra 5. Everything is lost, and my PC didnt' fair too well either, some corruption, but I managed to salvage its drive. I just finish reinstalling Windows. So for a few days i'm probably PC bound.

Now we reinstall after a lovely trip to Comp USA, at least the trip wasn't fruitless, got some more CD-R's and crickets for the gecko!

Now back to reinstall :roll:

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2003 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doing my first install of gentoo ever on a sparcstation 20 with a ross chip in it, 9gig barracuda (doesnt really fit in the case properly oh well) and 224 megs memory, 4 nic's, going to be a household router/firewall and shell box when its finished.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2003 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got my SparcStation20 also configured as NAT router. It's doing it's job very well. However, I've got OpenBSD installed on it because Gentoo is taking a lot of compiling time.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i stumbled into an
enterprise 450 machine
2 x 400mhz
1 gb ram
12 9gb scsi hotswap hd's
1 nic onboard
1 nic card
3 redundant power supplies

still trying to get it to work....can't get the kernel to work. either it won't compile cause of the options i have set or on the rare occasion it compiles it won't boot.

currently being used as a space heater for our third bedroom/computer room at home

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2003 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just got hold of an ultra1 as well. 167MHz (running fine at 220MHz), 256MBytes, 18G. Adding it to the distcc farm...
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2003 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have 22 or so Sunblade 150s a whole lab of them, i call them mine because the computer science teacher who "wanted" them couldn't figure out how to put linux on them :roll: Most came with Flatscreens with them its a slick little lab :)
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2003 4:21 pm    Post subject: Question on sparc hardware Reply with quote

Does this look any good?

Sun Ultra 2
2 x 300MHz CPU's [2 x X1191A]
1GB Memory [ 8 x X7003A ]
2 x 9GB 7200 RPM HDD [2 x X5229A
Creator 3D Graphics Card
10/100 on Board Ethernet

USD$500

I've always wanted a sun....
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2003 5:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Question on sparc hardware Reply with quote

unstable_geek wrote:
Does this look any good?

Sun Ultra 2
2 x 300MHz CPU's [2 x X1191A]
1GB Memory [ 8 x X7003A ]
2 x 9GB 7200 RPM HDD [2 x X5229A
Creator 3D Graphics Card
10/100 on Board Ethernet

Sweet box. Will run Gentoo fine. Just make sure that your monitor can handle the c3d is all...
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2003 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At school we have 64 Sun Blade 100's I believe. They're sleek little boxes. Very quiet, and very stylish. They're over 3 years old now (maybe more), so I'm hoping they get a kick sometime soon and I can buy one of those. I really like them. Have you seen the new sun workstation? Damn its sexy!

[img:d562bdaf1c]http://www.sun.com/desktop/sunblade1500/images/I1_hw_sunblade_1500_lg.jpg[/img:d562bdaf1c]
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2003 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Red Blob is horrid. It's almost as ugly as an iMac.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2003 8:56 pm    Post subject: my system Reply with quote

I dug out my old sparcstation 20 to set up as a backup adsl gateway in case my current gateway ever dies, it is rather souped-up from when I used to collect Sun hardware on ebay:

SparcStation 20
integrated 24-bit TGX (i think thats what its called) framebuffer
integrated Lance ethernet
Dual 85 mhz SuperSparc-II CPUs with 2 MB of memory each (only 1 MB is usable on the SS20)
Sun HME 100baseTX-FD ethernet card
QLogic 68-pin external Ultra-SCSI card
Sun Lance/Fast-SCSI combo card
Dual 2 Gig SCSI drives (configured as a software RAID-1 array)

think that's it.. :)
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2003 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rescued 2x SparcStation2 & 6x SparcStation4 from a case of skipping :(. I've not got a keyboard & CRT to find out what they are yet
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2003 6:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm about to get an Ultra AXE board, there are several on ebay for about $55 It is basically a Ultra 5 in an ATX board. It has a 300Mhz UltraSparc IIi cpu. I've got a desktop case that I bought a few years ago because it looked like a Sun workstation that I'm going to put it in.

Memory is a bit scarce for this board but I got lucky and got 256 for $30 (Unfortunately it does not take the same memory as the U5)

Pics of the board: http://www.sun.com/smrc/photos-prod/ppmicroseaxe.html

I plan on trying both Gentoo and Solaris 9 on it.
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