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nihil39 Tux's lil' helper

Joined: 15 Nov 2005 Posts: 77 Location: Italy
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Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 7:36 am Post subject: Chess Thread |
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Hi,
I'd like to use this thread as a sort of hub for the gentoo chess community. I mean: problems with setting an engine, with some particular program, discussions about the state of current chess ebuilds etc. Let me know if this sounds right.
First question:
Can someone please update the ebuild for the new version of scid? After a long time 4.4 was finally released ( http://scid.sourceforge.net/ ). Thanks. |
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aCOSwt Advocate


Joined: 19 Oct 2007 Posts: 2042 Location: Between the keyboard and the chair
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Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 8:11 am Post subject: |
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1.d4
BTW, the most efficient for getting scid 4.4 is that you fill a bump request on gentoo's bugzilla. _________________ In theory there are no differences between theory and practice. In practice, there are.
Don't try to understand my posts. Immanuel Kant never did, he thinks that only music and laughter do not have to mean anything. |
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nihil39 Tux's lil' helper

Joined: 15 Nov 2005 Posts: 77 Location: Italy
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Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 9:01 am Post subject: |
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https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=465820 ← I filed the version bump request yesterday, please vote it up if you want.
Is scid the best program for analysis on linux? Can someone give some basic advice (how to analyze, find the best move etc)?
To play on FICS I use eboard, but it seems that its development stopped in 2008 (version 1.1.1). There's a fork though, it is hosted here. We can try to make an ebuild for it maybe to be included in some overlay. |
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aCOSwt Advocate


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Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 10:17 am Post subject: |
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| nihil39 wrote: | | Is scid the best program for analysis on linux? |
In the free world, my opinion is : critter rules!
| nihil39 wrote: | | Can someone give some basic advice (how to analyze, find the best move etc)? |
I cannot understand your question. Do you mean you want algos for analyzing a chess position ? Well... I'm afraid a Gentoo forum thread is not really the best place for this.
Do you mean algos for analyzing/ranking chess engines ? Then you can be interested in The Elo rating system
BTW,
You withdraw ? _________________ In theory there are no differences between theory and practice. In practice, there are.
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nihil39 Tux's lil' helper

Joined: 15 Nov 2005 Posts: 77 Location: Italy
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Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 10:32 am Post subject: |
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Critter is an engine, scid is a program to analyze and manage databases of games which uses engines like critter.
I'm obviously not asking for algos here...
My question was more like: do you have any advice on how to analyze chess games with scid or any other programs? What do you use to accomplish this task?
I wrote scid because it seems to be the best (free as in beer and as in freedom) choice on Linux as far as I know but I'm kind a newbie in this field. I'm trying to use scid with gnuchess engine.
For the game: do you have a fics handle? Mine is nihiltrenove, I think it's better to play there rather than this kind of electronic correspondence chess. If you wish we can continue here, I'm kind of a beginner. |
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cgits n00b

Joined: 15 Jul 2005 Posts: 63 Location: Europe
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Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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Indeed Scid is a great piece of software. It was developed many years ago and it gives to its trained user (who has to read the user manual) the same features like commercial databases. It lacks the data, and one should find them elsewhere. My solution was to write a small script which downloads PGNs, concatenates them and converts to scid database format, from all the available TWIC issues from theweekinchess.com (1999 - today).
Currently, ChessX is also being developed and might become a very good program. It is based on Qt so it might have a more fancy GUI.
Note: the commercial program Hiarcs Chess Explorer seems to be using ChessX as its GUI. _________________ Beware of programmers that carry screwdrivers |
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Logicien Guru


Joined: 16 Sep 2005 Posts: 483 Location: Montréal
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Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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Hello,
I am an expert in chess in the Fédération Québecoise des Échecs (FQE). I rich 2000 and ever had a rating of 2041, but now I have 1873. I play more on Internet now. I teach chess to, basically from kindergarden to grade six.
I ever use Scid, but not now. I remember I was not able to associate a chess engine to it and play a game.
Because Stockfish is not in the Gentoo tree, I tried some overlays to get it, but I have not been able to emerge it with them. That could be the subject of a post. So, I decide I compile it from Git:
| Code: | | git clone https://github.com/mcostalba/Stockfish.git |
in /usr/local/src. To update it, I just cd to /usr/local/src/Stockfish and then
To compile it, I cd to /usr/local/src/Stockfish/src and then
| Code: | make clean
make help
make profile-build ARCH=x86-64
rm -f /usr/local/bin/stockfish
make install |
for Amd64. The binary is install in /usr/local/bin/stockfish.
To use Stockfish, I use a Stockfish.desktop file with a polyglot_1st.ini file for Xboard. I get Polyglot from the Hawking overlay with Layman. Xboard is in the portage tree. I have my own setup of Xboard, ~/.xboardrc. Xboard need the environment variable CHESSDIR. I set it CHESSDIR=~/.xboard . I use the openning book of Stockfish I download on http://www.stockfishchess.com/. Each path must point to an existing directory and file.
Stockfish is a powerfull GPL3 chess engine, but a lot of chess engines in the portage tree are stronger than me or enough strong for me. But who do not like to play with the strongest opponent available?
If this can help, let it seen in this thread. _________________ Paul |
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