Automount removable devices without hal

kingfame_147 · Apprentice Joined: 11 Oct 2008 Posts: 171

Ah, ok :) I downloaded it from his website in the past. And that site is down right now. Thanks for the hint!

madness465 · n00b Joined: 23 Jun 2010 Posts: 12

Hi there,

i have more general question concerning udev and automount and hope this question doesnt go to much away from original topic.

i am bit confused with all the new stuff around udev. i dont have hal anymore. all strength to get my udev automounting working steams anywhere.
You mentioned programms like uam and udiskie and i tried a lot of things.

Which daemons have to run when i have just udev only system. which automount programs are recommended and how do i have to start them.

for example i have udev-postmount running and before my openbox starts i start udiskie like this: udiskie & and my /media folder is still empty

what do i wrong, sorry when that sounds all nooby but all that udev stuff and rules etc. i am little bit overstrained

thanks a lot

kingfame_147 · Apprentice Joined: 11 Oct 2008 Posts: 171

Well I never used udiskie, so I can't help you there.

I am using uam. That are just some udev rules (and small scripts) which do the work for you :)

If you want to use uam you just have to install it, that's all. Ok, you should look at the config file and change some settings if you want too.

I found a small tutorial for udiskie: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Udiskie
Seems to be no big thing.

I'll stay at uam for now because it's a really simple and lightweight solution because it only needs udev.

madness465 · n00b Joined: 23 Jun 2010 Posts: 12

Hi there!

Thank you for your response!

I now installed uam, but i am not finding for example my ipod or usbstick in any common directory mountet. I seeked for some information about uam but i didnt find anything. So do you know what i am missing. I looked in the directories /media and /mnt is there an other directory where it will be mounted. Or are there any special daemons which have to run. For my udev configuration i just used the offical gentoo udev howto.

Thank you again

Greetings

netguy · n00b Joined: 01 Nov 2002 Posts: 29 Location: Taiwan

madness465 · n00b Joined: 23 Jun 2010 Posts: 12

Hi there,

no i didnt had but now i did but it dont work, either. There shouldnt be a daemon running, should there?

swimmer · Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:47 am Post subject:

Did you restart udev?

madness465 · n00b Joined: 23 Jun 2010 Posts: 12

I had some reboots since then so udev should be restarted.

dusik · Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 2:55 pm Post subject:

hoaoaihuong · n00b Joined: 27 Nov 2010 Posts: 2 Location: Vietnam

I'm a newcomer..all of these are useful information.

madness465 · n00b Joined: 23 Jun 2010 Posts: 12

Hi dusik,

my /etc/fstab is clean i am just using some sda and cdrom mount points.

Beetle B. · Guru Joined: 01 Mar 2003 Posts: 524

AARGH!!

I'm using uam. Note that udev as a service is not running, yet udevd is. What in my system config is starting it up?

Anyway - that was a side question. The real question I have is: How can I get uam not to automount a certain USB device? I just want to disable automounting that device. All udev rules I've written seem to have no impact!

Ideas?
_________________
Beetle B.

Please update the table of equivalents.
A Firefox guide.

M · Guru Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 432

Beetle B.

Did you change 80-uam.rules file? Maybe you can try to change line for usb and add something like this:
ATTRS{model}!="Your USB device"

Not sure if negative != works but I think it should...

Beetle B. · Guru Joined: 01 Mar 2003 Posts: 524

I tried that, and it didn't work.

Specifically, I changed it from

kingfame_147 · Apprentice Joined: 11 Oct 2008 Posts: 171

madness465 · n00b Joined: 23 Jun 2010 Posts: 12

Hi kingfame,

yes i am able to mount all the devices manually.

Here is the dmesg output for a usb samsung storage:

madness465 · n00b Joined: 23 Jun 2010 Posts: 12

Hi again,

i now looked again into the my media file directory, without changing anything on my system and after a lots of reboots and now suddenly i find my devices mounted. I really dont get that. I hope i find the course of this for posting.

Sorry for wasting your time.

tuber · Apprentice Joined: 12 Nov 2004 Posts: 267

Besides autofs, can any of other options automatically unmount the filesystems? That is, I want to be able to plug in a USB drive, copy some files over, then when the write light goes off, just pull the drive out without manually unmounting.

M · Guru Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 432

tuber

don't know about other options, but I never manually umount usb, I just copy some files, enter sync in terminal and pull the drive, uam will notify about unmount and clean mount dir. Never had problems.

the_mgt · Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:34 pm Post subject:

22decembre · Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:59 am Post subject:

anyone knows here where to find a good and simple tutorial in order to name my (our) removable devices ?

Right now, all the things I found about udev rules are really non-understandable !

Hal was maybe crap (don't know and don't care !), but it was easy to mount your device with a pretty name !
_________________
Portable Gentoo installé depuis ~fevrier 2010, kde4 ( doc : http://www.22decembre.eu/gentoo-portable/)
Serveur Maison Gentoo depuis ~avril 2010 (doc : http://www.22decembre.eu/gentoo-serveur/)
http://www.22decembre.eu

Gusar · Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 11:21 am Post subject:

Why don't you just stick with HAL? It still works. If the apps you used have moved on from HAL to udisks, they should still provide mounting with pretty names. All you have to do is make sure udisks works. There's documentation for that somewhere.

22decembre · Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 11:37 am Post subject:

I haven't removed hal... so, I can make what you said. But I don't know if my current kde release still rely on hal !

I care also of the day where it won't be possible to do that. And I think it can happen fast, as even software with slow dev cycle have began to switch off from hal (I speak here of synce) !

What is udisk in fact ? Is it a daemon, like hal ? Or it's more close to the kernel, like udev ?
_________________
Portable Gentoo installé depuis ~fevrier 2010, kde4 ( doc : http://www.22decembre.eu/gentoo-portable/)
Serveur Maison Gentoo depuis ~avril 2010 (doc : http://www.22decembre.eu/gentoo-serveur/)
http://www.22decembre.eu

Gusar · Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:35 pm Post subject:

udisks works on top of udev. Yeah, it's a daemon, which loads automatically when an app uses it. KDE 4.6 has support for it, earlier KDEs support only HAL.