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PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Btw: The uam homepage seems to be down. Bad that such a good approach will not be developed anymore :<

Nope, look here http://github.com/mgorny/uam/ . Also, uam developer will soon be a gentoo developer ;)
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, ok :) I downloaded it from his website in the past. And that site is down right now. Thanks for the hint!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi there,

i have more general question concerning udev and automount and hope this question doesnt go to much away from original topic.

i am bit confused with all the new stuff around udev. i dont have hal anymore. all strength to get my udev automounting working steams anywhere.
You mentioned programms like uam and udiskie and i tried a lot of things.

Which daemons have to run when i have just udev only system. which automount programs are recommended and how do i have to start them.

for example i have udev-postmount running and before my openbox starts i start udiskie like this: udiskie & and my /media folder is still empty

what do i wrong, sorry when that sounds all nooby but all that udev stuff and rules etc. i am little bit overstrained

thanks a lot
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I never used udiskie, so I can't help you there.

I am using uam. That are just some udev rules (and small scripts) which do the work for you :)

If you want to use uam you just have to install it, that's all. Ok, you should look at the config file and change some settings if you want too.

I found a small tutorial for udiskie: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Udiskie
Seems to be no big thing.


I'll stay at uam for now because it's a really simple and lightweight solution because it only needs udev.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi there!

Thank you for your response!

I now installed uam, but i am not finding for example my ipod or usbstick in any common directory mountet. I seeked for some information about uam but i didnt find anything. So do you know what i am missing. I looked in the directories /media and /mnt is there an other directory where it will be mounted. Or are there any special daemons which have to run. For my udev configuration i just used the offical gentoo udev howto.

Thank you again

Greetings
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 3:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

madness465 wrote:
Hi there!

Thank you for your response!

I now installed uam, but i am not finding for example my ipod or usbstick in any common directory mountet. I seeked for some information about uam but i didnt find anything. So do you know what i am missing. I looked in the directories /media and /mnt is there an other directory where it will be mounted. Or are there any special daemons which have to run. For my udev configuration i just used the offical gentoo udev howto.

Thank you again

Greetings


Do you emerge pmount ?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi there,

no i didnt had but now i did but it dont work, either. There shouldnt be a daemon running, should there?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you restart udev?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had some reboots since then so udev should be restarted.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

madness465 wrote:
I now installed uam, but i am not finding for example my ipod or usbstick in any common directory mountet.

I had the same problem -- when I plugged in a USB stick nothing was mounted. Turns out I had to remove a conflicting line from my /etc/fstab file, which specified a mount point for /dev/sdd1. I have permanent storage drives at sda-sdc, so the first external volume always gets sdd.

In other words, check your /etc/fstab file and make sure you have no entries for volumes you want uam to auto-mount.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 3:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a newcomer..all of these are useful information.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi dusik,

my /etc/fstab is clean i am just using some sda and cdrom mount points.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AARGH!!

I'm using uam. Note that udev as a service is not running, yet udevd is. What in my system config is starting it up?

Anyway - that was a side question. The real question I have is: How can I get uam not to automount a certain USB device? I just want to disable automounting that device. All udev rules I've written seem to have no impact!

Ideas?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beetle B.

Did you change 80-uam.rules file? Maybe you can try to change line for usb and add something like this:
ATTRS{model}!="Your USB device"

Not sure if negative != works but I think it should...
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried that, and it didn't work.

Specifically, I changed it from

Code:

SUBSYSTEM=="block", ACTION=="add", SUBSYSTEMS=="usb", ENV{ID_FS_USAGE}=="filesystem", RUN+="/lib64/udev/uam/uam-mount.sh"


to

Code:

SUBSYSTEM=="block", ACTION=="add", SUBSYSTEMS=="usb", ATTRS{serial}!="0123456789012345", ENV{ID_FS_USAGE}=="filesystem", RUN+="/lib64/udev/uam/uam-mount.sh"


Yes, != should work, according to the udev man page.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

madness465 wrote:
Hi dusik,

my /etc/fstab is clean i am just using some sda and cdrom mount points.


Could you post your dmesg output after plugging in a device that isn't mounted.

Are you able to mount those devices by hand?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi kingfame,

yes i am able to mount all the devices manually.

Here is the dmesg output for a usb samsung storage:

Code:

[ 5123.456056] usb 2-4: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 4
[ 5123.507274] ehci_hcd 0000:00:1d.7: port 4 high speed
[ 5123.507287] ehci_hcd 0000:00:1d.7: GetStatus port 4 status 001005 POWER sig=se0 PE CONNECT
[ 5123.572792] usb 2-4: default language 0x0409
[ 5123.575172] usb 2-4: udev 4, busnum 2, minor = 131
[ 5123.575178] usb 2-4: New USB device found, idVendor=040d, idProduct=6204
[ 5123.575185] usb 2-4: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
[ 5123.575191] usb 2-4: Product: USB 2.0 IDE Bridge
[ 5123.575198] usb 2-4: Manufacturer: VIA Technologies Inc.
[ 5123.575204] usb 2-4: SerialNumber: 000000000001
[ 5123.575381] usb 2-4: usb_probe_device
[ 5123.575390] usb 2-4: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[ 5123.575710] usb 2-4: adding 2-4:1.0 (config #1, interface 0)
[ 5123.575798] usb-storage 2-4:1.0: usb_probe_interface
[ 5123.575811] usb-storage 2-4:1.0: usb_probe_interface - got id
[ 5123.576058] scsi6 : usb-storage 2-4:1.0
[ 5123.576392] drivers/usb/core/inode.c: creating file '004'
[ 5129.927322] scsi 6:0:0:0: Direct-Access     SAMSUNG  SP2514N          VF10 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2
[ 5129.927692] sd 6:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0
[ 5129.929524] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] 488397168 512-byte logical blocks: (250 GB/232 GiB)
[ 5129.930041] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off
[ 5129.930049] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 00 00 00 00
[ 5129.930054] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
[ 5129.931397] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
[ 5129.931404]  sdb: sdb1
[ 5129.938119] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
[ 5129.938122] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI disk



Thank you.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi again,

i now looked again into the my media file directory, without changing anything on my system and after a lots of reboots and now suddenly i find my devices mounted. I really dont get that. I hope i find the course of this for posting.

Sorry for wasting your time.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 5:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Besides autofs, can any of other options automatically unmount the filesystems? That is, I want to be able to plug in a USB drive, copy some files over, then when the write light goes off, just pull the drive out without manually unmounting.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tuber

don't know about other options, but I never manually umount usb, I just copy some files, enter sync in terminal and pull the drive, uam will notify about unmount and clean mount dir. Never had problems.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tuber wrote:
Besides autofs, can any of other options automatically unmount the filesystems? That is, I want to be able to plug in a USB drive, copy some files over, then when the write light goes off, just pull the drive out without manually unmounting.


Iirc, autofs only mounts a dir as long as it is used and a few seconds more. So it should be autounmounted shortly after finishing copying. And even if pwd is still the mounted dir.

I used it long ago when I didnt have desktop icons, until I switched to hal because that was more convenient and e17 started to have icons on desktop. (And it still is more convenient, since I cant get udisks-daemon to autostart...)
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

anyone knows here where to find a good and simple tutorial in order to name my (our) removable devices ?

Right now, all the things I found about udev rules are really non-understandable !

Hal was maybe crap (don't know and don't care !), but it was easy to mount your device with a pretty name !
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why don't you just stick with HAL? It still works. If the apps you used have moved on from HAL to udisks, they should still provide mounting with pretty names. All you have to do is make sure udisks works. There's documentation for that somewhere.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't removed hal... so, I can make what you said. But I don't know if my current kde release still rely on hal !

I care also of the day where it won't be possible to do that. And I think it can happen fast, as even software with slow dev cycle have began to switch off from hal (I speak here of synce) !

What is udisk in fact ? Is it a daemon, like hal ? Or it's more close to the kernel, like udev ?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

udisks works on top of udev. Yeah, it's a daemon, which loads automatically when an app uses it. KDE 4.6 has support for it, earlier KDEs support only HAL.
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