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yngwin
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| gentoo-dev wrote: | | Steve` wrote: |
This is not a Gentoo project. |
Gentoo-wiki.com is not a Gentoo project? It uses the Gentoo name and the Gentoo logo. |
That is not a Gentoo project. Anybody can decide to use our name and logo, even against our wishes (altho legal action is possible in certain cases). It doesn't make it an official Gentoo project.
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yngwin
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| Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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| d2_racing wrote: | | So yngwin, what do you think about these 2 urls ? |
The wiki.gentoo.org url is consistent with Gentoo usage.
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leprosys
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| Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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I want join to this project as editor, congratulations to gentoo for this new project.
So now I have a question. Is possible that the wiki be translated into other languages? |
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spatz
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| Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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| leprosys wrote: | | Is possible that the wiki be translated into other languages? |
We are very interested in having translations for the wiki to as many languages as possible, and are investigating on how best to achieve that.
You can join us on #gentoo-wiki on freenode where we discuss this issue and others that relate to the wiki.
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na641
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| Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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| i would love to help with content/moderation. can also help with mediawiki theming/customization. let me know if you can use me |
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cokey
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| Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 4:00 am Post subject: |
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| AM088 wrote: | About time! 
Now to only redesign the homepage... |
Already done. This is what it looks like: http://www.aaronshi.com/gentoo/mainindex.html
It was all finished, fixed and voted for in 2005. Yes, 5 years ago!
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| Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 5:53 am Post subject: |
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| I have to agree with gentoo-dev on this one. whether it is an offical project or not, I doubt anyone cares we already have a wiki for gentoo. Honestly though I think it's more important to rework the gentoo homepage and finish coding packages.gentoo.org (it needs a search function). But if you guys really want to have an official wiki page I will support it although I think there are more important things to be worked on ATM. |
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na641
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i agree on some levels. gentoo.org definitely needs a revamp, as does packages.gentoo.org (it says soemthing when all the users are using gentoo-portage.com) but we have enough users to devote to all these projects. if there is an issue, its with delegating efficiently.
as for the design of the wiki, it should follow the same ui standards of the rest of the gentoo official pages. quite odd to have a completely different layout than the rest of the gentoo pages. |
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lightvhawk0
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I love the idea, if an official wiki.gentoo.org gets written I will write to it.
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d2_racing
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| cokehabit wrote: | | AM088 wrote: | About time!
Now to only redesign the homepage... |
Already done. This is what it looks like: http://www.aaronshi.com/gentoo/mainindex.html
It was all finished, fixed and voted for in 2005. Yes, 5 years ago! |
Where did you find this one Coke ? |
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cokey
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| Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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| d2_racing wrote: | | cokehabit wrote: | | AM088 wrote: | About time!
Now to only redesign the homepage... |
Already done. This is what it looks like: http://www.aaronshi.com/gentoo/mainindex.html
It was all finished, fixed and voted for in 2005. Yes, 5 years ago! |
Where did you find this one Coke ? |
it's the original, just hosted on aaron shi's site rather than Gentoo. I'd rip it all quickly so it doesn't get lost
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skellr
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An official wiki sounds ok. maybe people will strive to add/keep more accurate data in it.
| cokehabit wrote: | | AM088 wrote: | About time!
Now to only redesign the homepage... |
Already done. This is what it looks like: http://www.aaronshi.com/gentoo/mainindex.html
It was all finished, fixed and voted for in 2005. Yes, 5 years ago! |
It's missing a transsexual cow. Gentoo has the equipment to please both sexes and it should be known. |
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cokey
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you can tell the date that he was working on it because he ripped some of the front page information from that day:
| Quote: | NOV 08 2004
Gentoo Weekly Newsletter
The results from the first Gentoo User Survey are published, reports the Gentoo Weekly Newsletter. Italian Gentoo users and developers are getting ready for their big "G-Day" event on 27 November. Other news include digests from the Gentoo user and developer mailing lists, a clever tip for those wanting a leaner system, and the "Gentoo in the press" section made a peculiar catch this week. Four new developers have joined the Gentoo team, one, sadly, has left, both announcements are also in this week's GWN. |
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Mike Hunt
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| Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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| skellr wrote: | | It's missing a transsexual cow. Gentoo has the equipment to please both sexes and it should be known. |
... and the flying saucer, for our Martian friends. |
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skellr
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| Mike Hunt wrote: | | skellr wrote: | | It's missing a transsexual cow. Gentoo has the equipment to please both sexes and it should be known. |
... and the flying saucer, for our Martian friends. |
Yes, it must have Knurt and Larry! |
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Mike Hunt
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| Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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| skellr wrote: | | Yes, it must have Knurt and Larry! |
Absolutely! That should be non-negotiable. |
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marens
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| skellr wrote: | | Mike Hunt wrote: | | skellr wrote: | | It's missing a transsexual cow. Gentoo has the equipment to please both sexes and it should be known. |
... and the flying saucer, for our Martian friends. |
Yes, it must have Knurt and Larry! |
So what is the correct version? Knurt or Znurt
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skellr
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| Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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| marens wrote: | | So what is the correct version? Knurt or Znurt |
I always thought Znurt was the misspelling, maybe not. |
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arnvidr
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A landslide...But it looks so....boring!
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Bill Cosby
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d2_racing
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No idea right now, but I hope that it's make progress  |
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AllenJB
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| Bill Cosby wrote: | | So how's the WIKI going? |
Test wiki is at http://gentoowiki.a3li.li/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges
Last edit was 14th April.
What they've achieved:
- Install and configure mediawiki
- Discuss which implementation of captcha at extreme length (despite advice from an admin of the unofficial wiki that captcha will make very little difference to the amount of spam as it mostly comes from registered and often verified accounts)
- Started thinking about things like deletion policies, and added a few links to other wikis, but no discussion or drafting.
No mission statement or guidance as to what should go into the wiki; No templates; No basic indexing / category structure
Summary: In 3 weeks the collective of developers have achieved about 30 minutes of work on the official wiki.
Conclusion: The project was stillborn. |
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Bill Cosby
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| Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 8:23 am Post subject: |
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It seems they really discuss this to death.
I understand that coordinating a team, thinking bout legal implications for Gentoo itself etc. needs time, something the unofficial wiki did not need to, yet, indeed after three weeks and a man power of 12 devs and 6 aiding users, this seems kind of slow.
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