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desultory Bodhisattva
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Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 7:23 am Post subject: |
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Chiitoo wrote: | Except for the Google thing, and I have read about that, but yeah, even though we do not have the Google search, it does seem to find things in our forum quite well. | It finds things here because the block was removed two years ago. Aside from using the internal search function and a few other things that would be pointless for spiders to index they are allowed free rein. Additionally, the restrictions are mostly in place through robots.txt, only specific abusive bots have additional restrictions or even restrictions that are actually enforced on the server side (robots.txt, in and of itself, is reliant upon client side cooperation). |
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disi Veteran
Joined: 28 Nov 2003 Posts: 1354 Location: Out There ...
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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 10:46 am Post subject: |
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Any update or is this a stillbirth? Just asking because gentoo-wiki.com seems down...
I was writing a little in the de.gentoo-wiki.com lately and it's actual fun!
If there ever is a Gentoo Wiki, just let the people write the articles not a developers run documentation on a wiki platform... (the current documentation system was always too complicated to me). _________________ Gentoo on Uptime Project - Larry is a cow |
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a3li Retired Dev
Joined: 02 Sep 2008 Posts: 122 Location: 독일
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Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 10:35 pm Post subject: let's see who finds out, shall we? |
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Maintaining our user-exclusionary behavior, we will never launch http://wiki.gentoo.org, not even in a beta, it will always stay password-protected. Larry the Cow makes the saddest moo sound he can make, as he is so very sad about this. _________________ I am Confuism. Do not bother me.
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Hypnos Advocate
Joined: 18 Jul 2002 Posts: 2889 Location: Omnipresent
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Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 1:28 am Post subject: |
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<facepalm> How hard is it to grasp the concept of "community documentation" ? </facepalm> _________________ Personal overlay | Simple backup scheme |
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Hwoarang Retired Dev
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 701 Location: Leeds, UK
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Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 9:21 am Post subject: |
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Pay attention on what a3li wrote |
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Hypnos Advocate
Joined: 18 Jul 2002 Posts: 2889 Location: Omnipresent
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Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 9:51 am Post subject: |
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Sarcasm doesn't transmit well on the Internet.
And given how long the wiki has taken to get to this stage, pardon my skepticism until it goes live. _________________ Personal overlay | Simple backup scheme |
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desultory Bodhisattva
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Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 10:18 am Post subject: |
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Hypnos wrote: | Sarcasm doesn't transmit well on the Internet. | It was not sarcasm, it was more a suggestion that interested users should be bold. |
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krinn Watchman
Joined: 02 May 2003 Posts: 7470
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Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 10:39 am Post subject: |
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desultory wrote: | Hypnos wrote: | Sarcasm doesn't transmit well on the Internet. | It was not sarcasm, it was more a suggestion that interested users should be bold. |
No, it was more some yoda speech |
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Hwoarang Retired Dev
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Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 11:15 am Post subject: |
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If you stop complaining for a moment and read through out a3li's post you will find the answer to your problem. Seem like you were not a fan of Star wars |
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Hypnos Advocate
Joined: 18 Jul 2002 Posts: 2889 Location: Omnipresent
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Dr.Willy Guru
Joined: 15 Jul 2007 Posts: 547 Location: NRW, Germany
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Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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Hypnos wrote: | How does one gain access to the wiki? |
beta/moo |
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krinn Watchman
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Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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I'm paying attention, but what he has said could be tell in a more clearer form:
Users will never have a free access to the wiki, it will stay restrict by password but you can use beta/moo as user/password to login.
Now that your private joke is over, maybe you could then answer to why "I" am complaining :
Did you pay attention to what he said yourself Hwoarang ?
Because I and maybe many users don't care to write to the wiki, so the login/pwd is not useful.
But seeing the wiki will remain close to public is something different, and i don't see that announce as something to be happy about. |
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Hwoarang Retired Dev
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Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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Read one post above yours. The wiki is in private beta. Of course it will be publicly available once the beta phase is done |
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a3li Retired Dev
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Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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The real joke are the people on this forum. _________________ I am Confuism. Do not bother me. |
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krinn Watchman
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Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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a3li wrote: | The real joke are the people on this forum. |
It would be insulting if you weren't in it youself |
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Hwoarang Retired Dev
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 701 Location: Leeds, UK
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Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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To all of you who realized how to gain access, stop talking here and go write some articles so we can do some real beta testing and releasing wiki to the public |
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smartass Apprentice
Joined: 04 Jul 2011 Posts: 189 Location: right behind you ... (you did turn around, didn't you?)
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Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 3:03 pm Post subject: feelings of gratitude |
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a3li and Hwoarang
I would like to express my sincere gratitude to you for making such a nice wiki.
I really like the GFX style, clean and clear.
I hope the wiki will gain much deserved attention and in the close future resurrect the Gentoo reputation of having extensive documentation.
If you'd like me to help with smth in particular there, tell me (e.g. on IRC, nick is the same) |
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disi Veteran
Joined: 28 Nov 2003 Posts: 1354 Location: Out There ...
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Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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a3li wrote: | The real joke are the people on this forum. |
I didn't realize your hint more to come tomorrow... _________________ Gentoo on Uptime Project - Larry is a cow |
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l4nce n00b
Joined: 27 Feb 2011 Posts: 15
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Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 7:52 am Post subject: |
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I can't believe the wiki works and is awesome, Thank You devs |
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ppurka Advocate
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Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 8:11 am Post subject: |
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Hwoarang wrote: | To all of you who realized how to gain access, stop talking here and go write some articles so we can do some real beta testing and releasing wiki to the public | Is it ok to write about packages in layman? _________________ emerge --quiet redefined | E17 vids: I, II | Now using kde5 | e is unstable :-/ |
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a3li Retired Dev
Joined: 02 Sep 2008 Posts: 122 Location: 독일
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Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 9:57 am Post subject: |
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ppurka wrote: | Hwoarang wrote: | To all of you who realized how to gain access, stop talking here and go write some articles so we can do some real beta testing and releasing wiki to the public | Is it ok to write about packages in layman? |
Feel free to write about anything related to Gentoo.
We're going the other way around this time, Wiki first, coming up with policies, rules et. al. later. _________________ I am Confuism. Do not bother me. |
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mark_alec Bodhisattva
Joined: 11 Sep 2004 Posts: 6066 Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 10:29 am Post subject: |
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a3li wrote: | We're going the other way around this time, Wiki first, coming up with policies, rules et. al. later. | Is there a policy on how this wiki will interact with the other Gentoo Wiki or with the official documentation? _________________ www.gentoo.org.au || #gentoo-au |
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a3li Retired Dev
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Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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mark_alec wrote: | a3li wrote: | We're going the other way around this time, Wiki first, coming up with policies, rules et. al. later. | Is there a policy on how this wiki will interact with the other Gentoo Wiki or with the official documentation? |
There are, at this moment, little to no policies in place, and none on the special topic.
Feel free to start a discussion on that, maybe on one of the wiki talk pages? _________________ I am Confuism. Do not bother me. |
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disi Veteran
Joined: 28 Nov 2003 Posts: 1354 Location: Out There ...
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Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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a3li wrote: | mark_alec wrote: | a3li wrote: | We're going the other way around this time, Wiki first, coming up with policies, rules et. al. later. | Is there a policy on how this wiki will interact with the other Gentoo Wiki or with the official documentation? |
There are, at this moment, little to no policies in place, and none on the special topic.
Feel free to start a discussion on that, maybe on one of the wiki talk pages? |
I'll start with ''translating'' the stuff I wrote on the other wiki and see if I get the idea of more articles. What bothers me a little is this bottom-up method currently going on lol
We have articles about how to configure a share on some mark of router but nothing about file systems at all or how to install Gentoo _________________ Gentoo on Uptime Project - Larry is a cow |
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Hypnos Advocate
Joined: 18 Jul 2002 Posts: 2889 Location: Omnipresent
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Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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disi,
I think that's to be expected. The developer-written official documentation covers the essential Gentoo topics (e.g., installation), Wikipedia covers the general Linux topics (e.g., filesystems), and the Arch wiki covers much of the day-to-day operation of Linux systems.
I think where the Gentoo wiki fits in is covering more technically difficult topics in which Gentoo users would be especially interested. You and I already covered how to make bootable USB sticks for loading firmware, another person wrote an article on LTSP, and I look forward to someone else writing replete articles on hardened systems and filesystem encryption. _________________ Personal overlay | Simple backup scheme |
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