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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok so I'm still having trouble getting this running, I think X still has issues but I'm not sure what. And I tried to install gnome and I'm getting circular dependency errors? I have know idea what that means or how to solve it, any ideas you guru's out there might be able to spot I have supplied some of the conf files if there are mmore needed let me know I will be online all night. And I will try to play around and see If i can figure anything out and hopefully i don't bork it up any worse then it already is...lol if so i will keep track of what i try and let you know what I have done.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AFAIK a running dbus is an essential requirement for X-windows. At least, I've
never got X working without it. The command "ps ax | grep dbus" will tell you
if dbus is running. If not, emerge it and add it to the default run level.

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And add -doc to your use flags in /etc/make.conf, if it's not already there. It
should cut down circular dependencies.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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try adding -cups -gtk+ to your make.conf use flags.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

explained here
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-815977.html
try with just -cups.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is my xorg.0.log I have been googling all night and can't figure much out. http://dpaste.com/162494/ And here is my new updated make.conf http://dpaste.com/162498/ ...dose that look good? And I don't know but I may have something messed up in here aswell xorg.conf http://dpaste.com/162499/

This would seem like a headache too most but you know what i have learned more in three days trying to get gentoo working then I have in three years using ubuntu and linuxmint now i did learn abit from backtrack.

And yes dbus is running and has been added to default.

And I have a question the error "fatal: no screens detected" Is that a resolution setting that isnt present? if so could it be because I have this Radeon HD 2400 PRO hooked up via HDMI to my 50" sony?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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USE="-cups -qt3 -qt4 -arts -kde -gtk+ -doc gnome dvd alsa cdr X halddbus'


typo on hald dbus try emerging with gtk+ instead of -gtk+. need -cups until everything is installed then you can add cups back in .

and you have radeon in video cards. yesterday i gave you a link to fglrx.
here is link for ati.

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/ati-faq.xml
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pat on the back I may have figure it out by using this http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/pr/releases/10.0/faq.xml#xorg-server I did emerge xdm and after that i /etc/init.d/xdm restart and it goes to a white screenwith a white box in the middle, now I am emerging gnome....this looks like it will take awhile. And the circular dependencies apear to have vanished and it looks like its emerging!! woot woot I will post back in a couple of hours with results.
And yes i changed that a couple of times dude I was just trying anything to get it working.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow gnome takes forever to get!! And I have read abit about this white screen that i got when I started X apparently it may be a WSOD white screen of death! great. I thought I was making progress and maybe I am because before I was getting errors outputed after startx this time i got a white display. Anyone know I followed the guide I posted above.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Deathserver wrote:
(==) Using config file "etc/X11/xorg.conf"
after startx I get mostly the same module's failing to load-->"type1" "freetype" "dri2"
fglrx-> no matching device section for instance
then four liines of "expected keysym, got XF86TouchpadToggle: Line 122 of inet
/etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc: Line 58: twm: command not found
/etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc: Line 59: xclock: command not found
/etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc: Line 60: xterm: command not found
/etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc: Line 60: xterm: command not found
/etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc: Line 61 exec: xterm: not found

But this is begging too look good! Thanks a million again!


that...actually looks like your X system is functional

Problem is you dont yet have a desktop environment/window manager installed.

The default behaviour with X nowadays is to just blink once and go back to the console, even when everything is working - man page has more info:

man Xserver wrote:

-retro starts the stipple with the classic stipple and cursor visible. The default is to start with a black root window, and to suppress display of the cursor
until the first time an application calls XDefineCursor(). For the Xorg server, this also sets the default for the DontZap option to FALSE. For kdrive
servers, this implies -zap.


So try your test of X with the "-retro" switch. If you briefly get the "stipple and visible cursor", your X is working.

From what I can tell, your system should be perfectly happy to function as soon as you put a DE/WM on this thing (e.g. KDE, Gnome, what have you)
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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USE="-cups -qt3 -qt4 -arts -kde -gtk+ -doc gnome dvd alsa cdr X halddbus'


typo on hald dbus try emerging with gtk+ instead of -gtk+. need -cups until everything is installed then you can add cups back in .

and you have radeon in video cards. yesterday i gave you a link to fglrx.
here is link for ati.

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/ati-faq.xml


The USE is 'hal' not 'hald' btw - and it should already be enabled by default if he's using the "desktop" profile.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 6:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok I have emerged gnome and changed "hald" to "hal" and X still fails to work, and here is most recent Xorg.0.log http://dpaste.com/162847/
I did this

Failed to load module "dri2" (module does not exist, 0)

Check your ModulePath, I had to modify it like this:
# slocate dri2*.so /usr/lib64/opengl/xorg-x11/extensions/libdri2.so
File: /etc/X11/xorg.conf

...
Section "Files"
ModulePath "/usr/lib64/xorg/modules"
ModulePath "/usr/lib64/opengl/xorg-x11/extensions/"
EndSection
And now when I started X it just went black and I think it froze? but I think this is progress.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

-hald should be started
-dbus should be started

if both of these are true, and your drivers are in order, X should work

when you do your test, add the "-retro" switch for confirmation (see "man Xserver" for more info on the switch)
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 6:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still no go with the -retro option, it just froze like before. I don't know if my drivers are right or not? I am very new to all of this, what should I try?
BTW I was able to post my newest Xorg.0.log in the above post.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

are you following the instructions for starting gnome ?
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gnome-config.xml
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Deathserver wrote:
Still no go with the -retro option, it just froze like before. I don't know if my drivers are right or not? I am very new to all of this, what should I try?
BTW I was able to post my newest Xorg.0.log in the above post.


hrmm

with hald and dbus started, if things still don't work, I'd be tempted to lean towards evdev acting up

Just to rule this out, go ahead and do:

Code:

emerge twm xclock xterm


Then test again.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

After I do alot of these commands it say IMPORTANT: 2 config files in /etc need updating. And it foze again after I ran startx.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 7:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

let's see your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

xorg.conf http://dpaste.com/162868/ there you go. I don't wantto run strartx again until we figure this out it keeps freezing and i don like hard reseting the pc.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

what is your video card and what do have in VIDEO_CARDS=
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My graphics card is a VisioinTek RADEON HD 2400 PRO PCIe I am connected to my TV via HDMI.
/etc/make.conf VIDEO_CARDS="fglrx" And here is a link to my make.conf http://dpaste.com/162878/
I won't mess around with anything until one of you reply, just to make sure I don't screw something up.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 7:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

just wondered what you had in video card variable to know what faq you should be using.

all i can say is go through it carefully
http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Fglrx#Installing_fglrx

and if does not work change variable and try ati variable and ati faq.

faqs mention kernel settings and xorg.conf tweaks.

some people have trouble with hdmi sound, don't know about video.
may want to try with a monitor.

cach0rr0 knows a lot. i look for simple things people may have missed.

have you
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rc-update add consolekit default

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok once again I feel that we may be getting somewhere on this, look at my log http://dpaste.com/162900/ it appears to finaly be detecting the videocard i think it is having issues using a driver and appears to be falling back to fglrx and it says fglrx has no matchin device instance for (BUSID PCI:0@5:0:1)
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Ok well thanks man That link you gave me helped I did this

This worked!!!!!
"Assuming your using hal , get rid of /etc/X11/xorg.conf if it exists and then run your aticonfig command. That will set up your xorg.conf the way fglrx needs it. That and switching to ati opengl , which i see you did , is all you should have to do to get it working. I always build radeon module as backup, I don't know about blacklisting radeon , never needed to do that , i just don't set it up to load it and it's never caused me an issue."


And then I ran startx and bam I am now greeted with a very bare gui. When it started there were three terminals opened? Is this gnome or X?

I am going to hopefully remember all of this, when i do it again when I get my new computer.
So what do I do now? LOL

What is TWM, its at the top of the right click menu?

Now I am curious to see what kind of settings aticonfig used in the end?
Here are xorg.conf and my make.conf
http://dpaste.com/162912/ and http://dpaste.com/162913/
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i set /etc/conf.d/xdm DISPLAYMANAGER="gdm"
and start using gdm instead of startx
or
/etc/init.d/xdm (stop or start)
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I am sorry I don't really understand what you mean by that. What is GDM? and XDM? Should i re-emerge gnome now that I got X up?
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