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| Kenji Miyamoto wrote: | | bloat of graphical MPD clients. |
Have you tried Sonata?
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| Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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| w1n73rmu7e wrote: | | Kenji Miyamoto wrote: | | bloat of graphical MPD clients. |
Have you tried Sonata? |
or how about ANY OTHER MPD CLIENT. none of them are bloated. if you mean to call linking to a graphical widget toolkit bloated, i've got news for you.....
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| Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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| shickapooka800 wrote: | | w1n73rmu7e wrote: | | Kenji Miyamoto wrote: | | bloat of graphical MPD clients. |
Have you tried Sonata? |
or how about ANY OTHER MPD CLIENT. none of them are bloated. if you mean to call linking to a graphical widget toolkit bloated, i've got news for you..... |
Speaking of which, where has the old dralnu gone, ooh him and his bloat hatred.
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| Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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| shickapooka800 wrote: | | w1n73rmu7e wrote: | | Kenji Miyamoto wrote: | | bloat of graphical MPD clients. |
Have you tried Sonata? |
or how about ANY OTHER MPD CLIENT. none of them are bloated. if you mean to call linking to a graphical widget toolkit bloated, i've got news for you..... |
When I tried QMPDClient, it used 100% CPU time all the time.
It's more convenient to have it in a console anyway, since GNU Screen allows me to not waste a virtual desktop on it. I also have keybindings in my window manager to control MPD.
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| Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Kenji Miyamoto wrote: | | When I tried QMPDClient, it used 100% CPU time all the time. |
I've tried QMPDClient, and it's a lot worse than Sonata. If you don't mind GTK apps, Sonata is definitely the way to go. I've used ncmpc & ncmpc++ as well, and Sonata definitely tops them both.
| Kenji Miyamoto wrote: | | It's more convenient to have it in a console anyway, since GNU Screen allows me to not waste a virtual desktop on it. |
What do you mean? You don't have to run it maximized.
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| Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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| w1n73rmu7e wrote: | | Kenji Miyamoto wrote: | | It's more convenient to have it in a console anyway, since GNU Screen allows me to not waste a virtual desktop on it. |
What do you mean? You don't have to run it maximized. |
I like having it maximized, since I don't like wasting screen space. That's why I use a tiling window manager.
I tend to prefer console applications anyway. No reason to use a GUI when all you need to do is search (/ in ncmpc++), play a track in the current playlist (Enter in ncmpc++), or add to the current playlist (Space in ncmpc++).
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| Kenji Miyamoto wrote: |
I tend to prefer console applications anyway. No reason to use a GUI when all you need to do is search (/ in ncmpc++), play a track in the current playlist (Enter in ncmpc++), or add to the current playlist (Space in ncmpc++). |
and you run this on.... X11. so it is a gui. ncmpc itself doesn't use a gui, but embedding it in a terminal emulator, in a window manager, on top of X11, it's a gui. not to mention that many terminal emulators support mouse clicks, and translate them to the shell (I can 'scroll' through my bash history for example).
and I think ncmpc uses ncurses. which I'd call a very simple gui toolkit. it is a text based GUI toolkit (i know that seems to not make sense... or does it....).
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| shickapooka800 wrote: | | and I think ncmpc uses ncurses. which I'd call a very simple gui toolkit. it is a text based GUI toolkit (i know that seems to not make sense... or does it....). |
Text user interface is the term.
Stop pushing me to do something I don't care to do. Things are fine as they are and I wouldn't be better off with Sonata since I wouldn't make use of whatever features it may have over ncmpc or ncmpc++. Besides, ncmpc and friends have something over X applications: they can run on a system without an X server running (which I have a few of).
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| Kenji Miyamoto wrote: | | I like having it maximized, since I don't like wasting screen space. |
How is that not wasting screen space? You don't need to maximize an MPD client.
| Kenji Miyamoto wrote: | | I tend to prefer console applications anyway. No reason to use a GUI when all you need to do is search (/ in ncmpc++), play a track in the current playlist (Enter in ncmpc++), or add to the current playlist (Space in ncmpc++). |
Well, that's a completely different reason for using a text-based client. I just wanted to make it clear that bloat is not a problem with all GUI MPD clients.
| Kenji Miyamoto wrote: | | Besides, ncmpc and friends have something over X applications: they can run on a system without an X server running (which I have a few of). |
The whole point of MPD is that you run the client on the frontend (i.e., a computer with X), even if the music is playing from another computer (which may not have X).
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There are many reasons to use each MPD client. No reason to quibble over them.
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| Kenji Miyamoto wrote: | | That's why I use a tiling window manager. |
What tiling window manager do you use? xmonad is my favourite, ratpoison comes a close second, then wmii/dwm. xmonad is my main atm.
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| motif wrote: | | Kenji Miyamoto wrote: | | That's why I use a tiling window manager. |
What tiling window manager do you use? xmonad is my favourite, ratpoison comes a close second, then wmii/dwm. xmonad is my main atm. |
I use Awesome. Problems aside, it does what I want (and has Unicode support).
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