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SDNick484 Tux's lil' helper

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Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 6:41 am Post subject: Hulu Not Working on ~amd64 |
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For the last couple weeks, I haven't been able to get Hulu to work on my ~amd64 system in Firefox or Hulu Desktop. Whenever I go to play a video in Firefox, I receive the message, "Sorry, we are unable to stream this video. Please check your Internet connection and try again". I am running Firefox 3.5.7 and Flash 10.0.42.34; I do not have nspluginwrapper installed:
| Code: | # emerge -pv mozilla-firefox adobe-flash nspluginwrapper
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild R ] www-client/mozilla-firefox-3.5.7 USE="alsa custom-optimization dbus gnome java sqlite -bindist -iceweasel -mozdevelop -startup-notification" LINGUAS="en en_US -af -ar -as -be -bg -bn -bn_BD -bn_IN -ca -cs -cy -da -de -el -en_GB -eo -es -es_AR -es_CL -es_ES -es_MX -et -eu -fa -fi -fr -fy -fy_NL -ga -ga_IE -gl -gu -gu_IN -he -hi -hi_IN -hr -hu -id -is -it -ja -ka -kk -kn -ko -ku -lt -lv -mk -ml -mn -mr -nb -nb_NO -nl -nn -nn_NO -oc -or -pa -pa_IN -pl -pt -pt_BR -pt_PT -rm -ro -ru -si -sk -sl -sq -sr -sv -sv_SE -ta -ta_LK -te -th -tr -uk -vi -zh_CN -zh_TW" 0 kB
[ebuild R ] www-plugins/adobe-flash-10.0.42.34 USE="32bit 64bit (multilib)" 0 kB
[ebuild N ] www-plugins/nspluginwrapper-1.2.2-r2 0 kB |
Other Flash based sites, e.g. youtube, work fine. There's a thread on Hulu's Forums which seems to indicate other 64 bit distros are having this issue. However my Ubuntu 9.10 x86_64 HTPC plays Hulu without any problems (with the same version of Firefox & Flash). |
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desultory Administrator

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depontius Veteran

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Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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I notice that you seem to be installing flash kind of oddly, in that you've got both 32bit and 64bit USE flags set. Mine looks like:
| Code: | | [ebuild R ] www-plugins/adobe-flash-10.0.42.34 USE="64bit (multilib) -32bit" 0 kB |
I have this entry in /etc/portage/package.use:
| Code: | | www-plugins/adobe-flash 64bit |
I've never tried hulu, but I believe my wife has had good luck with it. _________________ .sigs waste space and bandwidth |
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SDNick484 Tux's lil' helper

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Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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Desultory, thanks for the links, however neither really seem to apply. This system ran Hulu fine up until a few weeks ago and then just stopped. There's been no changes to my Internet connection (I'm on a 16 Mbps down / 2 Mbps up link, so speed is sufficient) nor my Ad-Blockers (I use the same combo on all my machines and haven't changed it recently).
What's even more odd is that the same system plays Hulu fine in Windows 7 64 Bit running inside VirtualBox.
Depontius, yeah I noticed that and thought it was odd myself. I'm not sure where the "32bit" USE flag is coming from, as it's neither in my make.conf nor my package.use. After posting this message last night, setting it to 64bit only however it didn't make a difference (same issue with Hulu). |
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SDNick484 Tux's lil' helper

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Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Some additional information: I just confirmed I receive the same error with chromium-4.0.266.0 and Firefox 3.6 (which I didn't care for so I masked it and reverted to 3.5.7). I've also created an ebuild of Flash 10.0.32.18 however installing it from my local overlay didn't resolve the issue so I reverted back to 10.0.42.34. |
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rtomek Apprentice


Joined: 05 Jan 2007 Posts: 209 Location: Chicago
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Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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There's an ebuild for the hulu desktop in the sunrise overlay. That's how I use it.
I just tried using it from my browser and it doesn't work for me either.
| Code: | emerge -s hulu
Searching...
[ Results for search key : hulu ]
[ Applications found : 2 ]
* media-tv/huludesktop
Latest version available: 0.9.7
Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
Size of files: 1,257 kB
Homepage: http://www.hulu.com/labs/hulu-desktop-linux
Description: Hulu desktop
License: Hulu-EULA
* media-video/huludesktop
Latest version installed: 0.9.7-r1
Homepage: http://www.hulu.com/labs/hulu-desktop-linux
Description: Hulu desktop
License: Hulu-EULA |
I don't know why there's two of them, but the one I have installed works great
edit: figured it out, 0.9.7 is now in portage and 0.9.7-r1 was from sunrise but has now been deleted. Probably moved to official portage as 0.9.7? |
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SDNick484 Tux's lil' helper

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Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Interesting, the Hulu desktop I have was from my local repository (got the ebuild from these forums shortly after it was announced). Tonight I'll have to try the one that's now in portage. It's odd that Hulu works in that app but not Firefox for you. |
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rtomek Apprentice


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Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 11:32 pm Post subject: |
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The hulu desktop uses a special bundled version of flash, I suppose. If I right-click and hit 'about adobe flash 10' it won't do anything. All I can see is the in the hulu desktop preferences it says 'swf version 0.9.12.4', whatever that means.
BTW, I use opera, not firefox  |
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depontius Veteran

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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 12:20 am Post subject: |
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I tried Hulu a little bit ago, and get the same message. I would swear that several months ago my wife was watching shows on it. Maybe she was, and sometime since then they got addicted to DRM. I'll presume that's the primary feature of their special version of Flash. _________________ .sigs waste space and bandwidth |
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FishB8 l33t


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Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 2:31 am Post subject: |
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This is a known issue with 64bit linux boxes trying to access Hulu. Across all linux distros, not just Gentoo.
Lots of pissed off Linux users in Hulu's forum. Supposedly running firefox & flash in 32 bit mode gets around the problem, but that is a total pain in the ass.
Hulu Desktop still works though. _________________ "...as we enjoy great advantages from the inventions of others, we should be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours, and this we should do freely and generously." -Benjamin Franklin |
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SDNick484 Tux's lil' helper

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Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 11:37 pm Post subject: |
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| FishB8 wrote: | This is a known issue with 64bit linux boxes trying to access Hulu. Across all linux distros, not just Gentoo.
Lots of pissed off Linux users in Hulu's forum. Supposedly running firefox & flash in 32 bit mode gets around the problem, but that is a total pain in the ass.
Hulu Desktop still works though. |
Yeah, I linked to their forums on the last line of my original post. It's really quite odd as my 64 bit Ubuntu box works, but my Gentoo ones do not. Also I installed the Hulu Desktop (the one in Portage) on 1/27 and it wasn't working; I then tried again over the weekend and it started to work (Firefox still doesn't). Very frustrating. |
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SpiroPoulos89 Apprentice

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Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:56 am Post subject: |
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| depontius wrote: | | I tried Hulu a little bit ago, and get the same message. I would swear that several months ago my wife was watching shows on it. Maybe she was, and sometime since then they got addicted to DRM. I'll presume that's the primary feature of their special version of Flash. |
Hey depontius,
I would just like to say that if you don't like DRM then you should stop using proprietary software like Flash Player or any others you may be using even if free software is not yet totally functional.
Gnash is a Free Flash Player alternative.
It only supports up to swf 9 so far and only for few sites. This would mean no hulu in a browser or using hulu-desktop. Sure it may be a bit inconvenient but you are the one who mentioned DRM which can only exist in proprietary software.
Using GNU-Linux is just the first step to being free, then you have to realize that for some reason people like to create non-free software for a completely free operating system. That kinda defeats the entire purpose of using GNU-Linux.
It's Your Call. Be Free
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Get ****** in the Anus  |
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depontius Veteran

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Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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| SpiroPoulos89 wrote: |
Gnash is a Free Flash Player alternative.
It only supports up to swf 9 so far and only for few sites. This would mean no hulu in a browser or using hulu-desktop. Sure it may be a bit inconvenient but you are the one who mentioned DRM which can only exist in proprietary software. |
So let's talk about the important thing... YouTube
Does gnash play stuff on YouTube - the cutesy and absurd things that get passed around as gags, etc - the important stuff.
We're talking passing the wife-test, here. _________________ .sigs waste space and bandwidth |
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SpiroPoulos89 Apprentice

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Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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depontius,
Gnash can play youtube videos. I find that it plays best with youtube and megavideo. But as I mentioned it does not play swf 10 videos(the newest flash format). There are many swf 7, 8 and 9 videos on youtube and even some of those may have some problems.
Edit: also works good with google-video.
I would have to guess that your wife would be diss-satisfied with gnash unless she cares about freedom.
The main reason to use gnash in its current stage is to avoid using proprietary software.
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SDNick484 Tux's lil' helper

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Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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| SpiroPoulos89 wrote: | depontius,
Gnash can play youtube videos. I find that it plays best with youtube and megavideo. But as I mentioned it does not play swf 10 videos(the newest flash format). There are many swf 7, 8 and 9 videos on youtube and even some of those may have some problems.
I would have to guess that your wife would be diss-satisfied with gnash unless she cares about freedom.
The main reason to use gnash in its current stage is to avoid using proprietary software. |
It's probably already been fixed, but I tried compiling Gnash with Firefox 3.6 installed from Portage (~amd64), and the build failed (the newer XULRunner broke several things). Reverting to Firefox 3.5.7 resolved the issue, and this was literally like the day FF 3.6 hit Portage, so this issue may well be fixed. I actually don't care for Firefox 3.6, and I was a bit disappointed in Gnash, so I ended up removing both and masking FF 3.6. |
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SpiroPoulos89 Apprentice

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Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 12:04 am Post subject: |
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I use icecat (A completely free fork of firefox). IceCat is firefox with a GNU license. It will downgrade XULRunner for you then I just masked the newer XULLRunner to make sure another program does not call the newer one.
Edit: nevermind above. I just got the update to icecat 3.6 now. but it did install fine withe the latest xullrunner and no problems.
If you were disappointed with Gnash then there is nothing that can be done about that except wait for it to become more capable while using proprietary software in the meantime.
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SpiroPoulos89 Apprentice

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Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 1:41 am Post subject: |
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For youtube there is a good alternative to watching all the videos without the need of flash at all.
If you install "greasemonkey" you can then go to "userscripts.org" and search for "youtube without flash".
This will allow your browser to use your installed media-player to watch youtube videos. Works with totem, vlc, mplayer and maybe others.
Here is the site to install greasemonkey: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/748
here is the sit to install Youtube Without Flash Auto: http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/50771
You can also use totem's youtube plugin to watch youtube directly from totem without a browser or you can install minitube to watch youtube videos from the minitube program instead of a browser.
All the alternatives I mentioned above works only for youtube. This goes to show you how popular youtube is.
Hope this helps. |
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FishB8 l33t


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Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 5:01 am Post subject: |
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| SpiroPoulos89 wrote: | | depontius wrote: | | I tried Hulu a little bit ago, and get the same message. I would swear that several months ago my wife was watching shows on it. Maybe she was, and sometime since then they got addicted to DRM. I'll presume that's the primary feature of their special version of Flash. |
Hey depontius,
I would just like to say that if you don't like DRM then you should stop using proprietary software like Flash Player or any others you may be using even if free software is not yet totally functional.
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This has nothing to do with DRM. Hulu doesn't even use DRM in their video streams. _________________ "...as we enjoy great advantages from the inventions of others, we should be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours, and this we should do freely and generously." -Benjamin Franklin |
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SpiroPoulos89 Apprentice

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Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 6:57 am Post subject: |
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FishB8,
Maybe DRM doesn't have to do with hulu, but it does have to do with Adobe's Flash Player and other proprietary software. And hulu does use the flash player, so my posts are not completely irrelevant. |
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BonezTheGoon Bodhisattva


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Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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| SDNick484 wrote: | | It's really quite odd as my 64 bit Ubuntu box works, but my Gentoo ones do not. |
Are you sure that your 64-bit Ubuntu isn't using the 32-bit Firefox with 32-bit flash? Seems likely that's how they have it setup, since that is much more "industry standard" still, to run a 32-bit browser with 32-bit plugins for now. That is how I have hulu working on my AMD64 Gentoo box. _________________ Vista needs more memory than Windows for Supercomputers |
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SpiroPoulos89 Apprentice

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Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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I just remembered, Ubuntu does use an x64 bit browser but uses "nspluginwrapper" to install a x86 version of flash player and use it in an x64 bit browser.
That's probably why Ubuntu x64 works with hulu but Gentoo does not.
Adobe Flash Player x64 is still an alpha or beta release, so I guess Ubuntu does not want to use it yet. but Gentoo uses the x64 alpha version of flash and I guess the x64 version is having some kind of problem with hulu.
So until it gets fixed I guess the only solution's for hulu in x64 are:
1: Use hulu desktop
2: Use an x86 browser with x86 flash
3: Use nspluginwrapper to get x86 flash in a x64 browser.(I don't know how to do this, Ubuntu does it by default).
And remember that all these solutions are non-free. hehe |
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SDNick484 Tux's lil' helper

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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:33 am Post subject: |
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| Just updated to www-plugins/adobe-flash-10.0.45.2 to no avail... |
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scan2006 n00b

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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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| http://www.fancast.com/ has all the same shows/streams (in fact is says Hulu while watching shows) and will play with amd64. |
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rtomek Apprentice


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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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| scan2006 wrote: | | http://www.fancast.com/ has all the same shows/streams (in fact is says Hulu while watching shows) and will play with amd64. |
Some stuff works. Most of the videos just sit there with the fancast logo spinning around. |
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PraetorZero Apprentice


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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:05 pm Post subject: |
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| scan2006 wrote: | | http://www.fancast.com/ has all the same shows/streams (in fact is says Hulu while watching shows) and will play with amd64. |
Don't you have to be a Comcast subscriber to view it? _________________ What's the worst that can happen? |
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