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I have bad - HP sauce level (for fellow Brummies) - feelings about this.
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The days of synthetic chocolates are close. 
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A British friend of mine had this to say: | Quote: | | It's good for Kraft then. I've never even SEEN a Kraft dinner over here. |
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Time to stock up on TimeOut.
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| Kenji Miyamoto wrote: | A British friend of mine had this to say: | Quote: | | It's good for Kraft then. I've never even SEEN a Kraft dinner over here. |
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I think that's the key. It seems doubtful to me they'd mess with the existing successful products, recipes, etc.
If they start selling Cadbury Mac 'N Cheese, surely nobody is going think it has any chocolate (synthetic or otherwise).
That said...
| John-Boy wrote: | | I have bad - HP sauce level (for fellow Brummies) - feelings about this. |
...anything in particular, or just the general "cost savings" typically resulting from M&A?
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| pjp wrote: | | John-Boy wrote: | | I have bad - HP sauce level (for fellow Brummies) - feelings about this. |
...anything in particular, or just the general "cost savings" typically resulting from M&A? |
Both are/were companies with a strong local connection - jobs will be lost, always happens with this kind of thing, but it's also the prospect of having operations taken away to somewhere else. Bournville wouldn't be the same.
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yer this is bad!!!
Bournville is a 5min walk up the road from me so loss of jobs gonna hit cottergridge had as well
Saying that tho the headquarters of Cadbury's in Bournville does have Cadburys world which is great!
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With such a sizable merger, it wouldn't be out of the ordinary for Kraft to move its headquarters there, so not all hope is lost.
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I can imagine that they'd pull out the sugar and start putting that sweetened corn syrup crap in it and it will taste as shit as US chocolate (no offence guys, just that ours tastes better - probably because of the sugar)
What are these kraft meals? |
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| cokehabit wrote: | | I can imagine that they'd pull out the sugar and start putting that sweetened corn syrup crap in it and it will taste as shit as US chocolate (no offence guys, just that ours tastes better - probably because of the sugar) |
I doubt it. There are a lot of small chocolatiers here that don't produce crap, and Cadbury sells well as a brand.
That said, there is no limit to management incompetence, so only time will tell.
| cokehabit wrote: | | What are these kraft meals? |
For the most part, nothing you'd want: http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_nr_n_0?rh=n%3A16310101%2Ck%3Akraft%2Cn%3A!16310211%2Cn%3A16310241&bbn=16310211&keywords=kraft&ie=UTF8&qid=1263930318&rnid=16310211
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| cokehabit wrote: | I can imagine that they'd pull out the sugar and start putting that sweetened corn syrup crap in it and it will taste as shit as US chocolate (no offence guys, just that ours tastes better - probably because of the sugar)
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hey now, british chocolate isn't the top of the food chain either. or at least any such claim would net you a pissed off swiss.
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| shickapooka800 wrote: | | cokehabit wrote: | I can imagine that they'd pull out the sugar and start putting that sweetened corn syrup crap in it and it will taste as shit as US chocolate (no offence guys, just that ours tastes better - probably because of the sugar)
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hey now, british chocolate isn't the top of the food chain either. or at least any such claim would net you a pissed off swiss. |
That is true (and a few years back they did push to make it such that only chocolate with a MINIMUM % of ingredients could be called chocolate). That being said British chocolate is alot closer to swiss chocolate then american chocolate is to british
I use to get sent alot of sweets over from my granddad when I was younger and while the candy is great!!! the chocolate is crap! all powdery,artificial... the best I had tasted was like what we call "cooking chocolate"
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| Naib wrote: | | shickapooka800 wrote: | | cokehabit wrote: | I can imagine that they'd pull out the sugar and start putting that sweetened corn syrup crap in it and it will taste as shit as US chocolate (no offence guys, just that ours tastes better - probably because of the sugar)
What are these kraft meals? |
hey now, british chocolate isn't the top of the food chain either. or at least any such claim would net you a pissed off swiss. |
That is true (and a few years back they did push to make it such that only chocolate with a MINIMUM % of ingredients could be called chocolate). That being said British chocolate is alot closer to swiss chocolate then american chocolate is to british
I use to get sent alot of sweets over from my granddad when I was younger and while the candy is great!!! the chocolate is crap! all powdery,artificial... the best I had tasted was like what we call "cooking chocolate" |
it was a known issue. there are a lot of little private chocolatiers that make some good product over here. Chances are, though, that once it reaches the masses at large, it will be a bit more processed. such is life.
we are a fairly large country, and if someone wants to create a product that reaches all of us and is affordable (remember -- we're also cheap), it will innevitably be mediocre. therefore, it still stands that most of what we would export, being a far reaching product, would be somewhere in the middle class of quality/taste/whathaveyou.
edit: oh and I am now talking about food in general in the US.
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| shickapooka800 wrote: | | cokehabit wrote: | I can imagine that they'd pull out the sugar and start putting that sweetened corn syrup crap in it and it will taste as shit as US chocolate (no offence guys, just that ours tastes better - probably because of the sugar)
What are these kraft meals? |
hey now, british chocolate isn't the top of the food chain either. or at least any such claim would net you a pissed off swiss. |
oh you're 100% right there (personally I think Belgian chocolate is the best) but we do make high quality cheap chocolate. The Belgians and the Swiss make very good expensive chocolate |
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| pjp wrote: | | cokehabit wrote: | | I can imagine that they'd pull out the sugar and start putting that sweetened corn syrup crap in it and it will taste as shit as US chocolate (no offence guys, just that ours tastes better - probably because of the sugar) |
I doubt it. There are a lot of small chocolatiers here that don't produce crap, and Cadbury sells well as a brand.
That said, there is no limit to management incompetence, so only time will tell.
| cokehabit wrote: | | What are these kraft meals? |
For the most part, nothing you'd want: http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_nr_n_0?rh=n%3A16310101%2Ck%3Akraft%2Cn%3A!16310211%2Cn%3A16310241&bbn=16310211&keywords=kraft&ie=UTF8&qid=1263930318&rnid=16310211 |
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Why do you put up with such crap on your shelves? |
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| cokehabit wrote: | | shickapooka800 wrote: | | cokehabit wrote: | I can imagine that they'd pull out the sugar and start putting that sweetened corn syrup crap in it and it will taste as shit as US chocolate (no offence guys, just that ours tastes better - probably because of the sugar)
What are these kraft meals? |
hey now, british chocolate isn't the top of the food chain either. or at least any such claim would net you a pissed off swiss. |
oh you're 100% right there (personally I think Belgian chocolate is the best) but we do make high quality cheap chocolate. The Belgians and the Swiss make very good expensive chocolate |
give me some brand names. I want to see if I can easily get some of this world-renowned good stuff around here.
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| cokehabit wrote: | ::vomit::
Why do you put up with such crap on your shelves? |
We just don't know any better.
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| cokehabit wrote: | | pjp wrote: | | cokehabit wrote: | | I can imagine that they'd pull out the sugar and start putting that sweetened corn syrup crap in it and it will taste as shit as US chocolate (no offence guys, just that ours tastes better - probably because of the sugar) |
I doubt it. There are a lot of small chocolatiers here that don't produce crap, and Cadbury sells well as a brand.
That said, there is no limit to management incompetence, so only time will tell.
| cokehabit wrote: | | What are these kraft meals? |
For the most part, nothing you'd want: http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_nr_n_0?rh=n%3A16310101%2Ck%3Akraft%2Cn%3A!16310211%2Cn%3A16310241&bbn=16310211&keywords=kraft&ie=UTF8&qid=1263930318&rnid=16310211 |
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don't tread on the blue box!!!!!! regular kraft mac'n cheese is up there with apple pie and guns and don't you forget that.
now some of their other crap is, well, crap. To be honest, the original kraft singles cheese is pretty damn useful delicious in it's own way.
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| Kenji Miyamoto wrote: | | cokehabit wrote: | ::vomit::
Why do you put up with such crap on your shelves? |
We just don't know any better. |
who doesn't? it's a well known fact that g'ma's mac-n-cheese is way better than kraft, and that a proper cooked meal is light years beyond what kraft makes. it's not a crime against the world to eat kraft meals. It may be a crime to a foodie, but those whom identify themselves as such are pompous douchebags.
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| Frankly I don't like Cadbury that much anyway, so I can't see this changing my opinion. |
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| shickapooka800 wrote: | | cokehabit wrote: | | shickapooka800 wrote: | | cokehabit wrote: | I can imagine that they'd pull out the sugar and start putting that sweetened corn syrup crap in it and it will taste as shit as US chocolate (no offence guys, just that ours tastes better - probably because of the sugar)
What are these kraft meals? |
hey now, british chocolate isn't the top of the food chain either. or at least any such claim would net you a pissed off swiss. |
oh you're 100% right there (personally I think Belgian chocolate is the best) but we do make high quality cheap chocolate. The Belgians and the Swiss make very good expensive chocolate |
give me some brand names. I want to see if I can easily get some of this world-renowned good stuff around here. |
well we are so close to Belgium that we get lots of their chocs, usually not big makers but some like Duc D'Or are gorgeous |
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| shickapooka800 wrote: | | cokehabit wrote: | | pjp wrote: | | cokehabit wrote: | | I can imagine that they'd pull out the sugar and start putting that sweetened corn syrup crap in it and it will taste as shit as US chocolate (no offence guys, just that ours tastes better - probably because of the sugar) |
I doubt it. There are a lot of small chocolatiers here that don't produce crap, and Cadbury sells well as a brand.
That said, there is no limit to management incompetence, so only time will tell.
| cokehabit wrote: | | What are these kraft meals? |
For the most part, nothing you'd want: http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_nr_n_0?rh=n%3A16310101%2Ck%3Akraft%2Cn%3A!16310211%2Cn%3A16310241&bbn=16310211&keywords=kraft&ie=UTF8&qid=1263930318&rnid=16310211 |
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don't tread on the blue box!!!!!! regular kraft mac'n cheese is up there with apple pie and guns and don't you forget that.
now some of their other crap is, well, crap. To be honest, the original kraft singles cheese is pretty damn useful delicious in it's own way. |
Think how much healthier the US would be if there was less of that crap |
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| shickapooka800 wrote: | | cokehabit wrote: | | shickapooka800 wrote: | | cokehabit wrote: | I can imagine that they'd pull out the sugar and start putting that sweetened corn syrup crap in it and it will taste as shit as US chocolate (no offence guys, just that ours tastes better - probably because of the sugar)
What are these kraft meals? |
hey now, british chocolate isn't the top of the food chain either. or at least any such claim would net you a pissed off swiss. |
oh you're 100% right there (personally I think Belgian chocolate is the best) but we do make high quality cheap chocolate. The Belgians and the Swiss make very good expensive chocolate |
give me some brand names. I want to see if I can easily get some of this world-renowned good stuff around here. |
Green & Blacks. Their stuff is great!
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| cokehabit wrote: | | shickapooka800 wrote: | | cokehabit wrote: | | pjp wrote: | | cokehabit wrote: | | I can imagine that they'd pull out the sugar and start putting that sweetened corn syrup crap in it and it will taste as shit as US chocolate (no offence guys, just that ours tastes better - probably because of the sugar) |
I doubt it. There are a lot of small chocolatiers here that don't produce crap, and Cadbury sells well as a brand.
That said, there is no limit to management incompetence, so only time will tell.
| cokehabit wrote: | | What are these kraft meals? |
For the most part, nothing you'd want: http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_nr_n_0?rh=n%3A16310101%2Ck%3Akraft%2Cn%3A!16310211%2Cn%3A16310241&bbn=16310211&keywords=kraft&ie=UTF8&qid=1263930318&rnid=16310211 |
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don't tread on the blue box!!!!!! regular kraft mac'n cheese is up there with apple pie and guns and don't you forget that.
now some of their other crap is, well, crap. To be honest, the original kraft singles cheese is pretty damn useful delicious in it's own way. |
Think how much healthier the US would be if there was less of that crap |
it might be worse. The way we overeat this garbage, I couldn't imagine how much we would overeat great-tasting food if we had it regularly  BTW, Spirals 'n cheese is 1000x better than mac 'n cheese.
I have to say though, that pepsi throwback tasted like diet pepsi to me. Give me more of that fructose! I am hypoglycemic so the fructose is actually recommended for me  Is corn syrup also cheaper than sugar in England? I though cheap corn syrup was a North American thing. |
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| rtomek wrote: | it might be worse. The way we overeat this garbage, I couldn't imagine how much we would overeat great-tasting food if we had it regularly BTW, Spirals 'n cheese is 1000x better than mac 'n cheese.
I have to say though, that pepsi throwback tasted like diet pepsi to me. Give me more of that fructose! I am hypoglycemic so the fructose is actually recommended for me Is corn syrup also cheaper than sugar in England? I though cheap corn syrup was a North American thing. |
i had never heard of corn syrup until I came on these boards. AFAIK you are the only country that uses it, or puts up with it i mean |
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