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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:06 pm    Post subject: Mouse very slow with kernel 2.6.30 Reply with quote

I upgraded to kernel 2.6.30-gentoo-r4 a few weeks ago. After starting KDE4, I noticed that the mouse was very slow. The cursor was delayed by about a second, very choppy, and sometimes moved opposite the direction of mouse motion.

I gave up on 2.6.30 (went back to 2.6.29), and figured I would wait for the next kernel and it would probably be fixed. Now I am using kernel 2.6.30-gentoo-r6, and the problem persists. The keyboard is fine, the mouse buttons work well and do not have a delay, but the cursor is delayed and choppy.

Moving the cursor around a lot does not increase the CPU's load.

I can't seem to figure this out, and I want to keep up with the latest kernel. Thanks for any tips, as I can find nothing online about this problem.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, can you post this :

Code:

# emerge --info
# cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
# rc-update show

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 3:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

d2_racing wrote:
Hi, can you post this :

Code:

# emerge --info
# cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
# rc-update show


Yes.

Code:

blake-gentoo ~ # emerge --info
Portage 2.1.6.13 (default/linux/x86/2008.0/desktop, gcc-4.1.2, glibc-2.9_p20081201-r2, 2.6.29-gentoo-r5 i686)
=================================================================
System uname: Linux-2.6.29-gentoo-r5-i686-AMD_Athlon-tm-_XP_2000+-with-gentoo-1.12.11.1
Timestamp of tree: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 12:30:04 +0000
app-shells/bash:     4.0_p28
dev-java/java-config: 1.3.7-r1, 2.1.8-r1
dev-lang/python:     2.4.6, 2.5.4-r3, 2.6.2-r1
dev-python/pycrypto: 2.0.1-r8
dev-util/cmake:      2.6.4
sys-apps/baselayout: 1.12.11.1
sys-apps/sandbox:    1.6-r2
sys-devel/autoconf:  2.13, 2.63-r1
sys-devel/automake:  1.4_p6, 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r2, 1.10.2
sys-devel/binutils:  2.18-r3
sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.4.1
sys-devel/libtool:   2.2.6a
virtual/os-headers:  2.6.27-r2
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="x86"
CBUILD="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
CFLAGS="-march=athlon-xp -O2 -pipe"
CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/kde/3.5/env /usr/kde/3.5/share/config /usr/kde/3.5/shutdown /usr/share/config /var/lib/hsqldb"
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/ca-certificates.conf /etc/env.d /etc/env.d/java/ /etc/fonts/fonts.conf /etc/gconf /etc/php/apache2-php5/ext-active/ /etc/php/cgi-php5/ext-active/ /etc/php/cli-php5/ext-active/ /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/sandbox.d /etc/terminfo /etc/texmf/language.dat.d /etc/texmf/language.def.d /etc/texmf/updmap.d /etc/texmf/web2c /etc/udev/rules.d"
CXXFLAGS="-march=athlon-xp -O2 -pipe"
DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles"
FEATURES="distlocks fixpackages parallel-fetch protect-owned sandbox sfperms strict unmerge-orphans userfetch"
GENTOO_MIRRORS="rsync://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/gentoo/ http://chi-10g-1-mirror.fastsoft.net/pub/linux/gentoo/gentoo-distfiles/"
LC_ALL="en_US"
LDFLAGS="-Wl,-O1"
MAKEOPTS="-j2"
PKGDIR="/usr/portage/packages"
PORTAGE_CONFIGROOT="/"
PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS="--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times --compress --force --whole-file --delete --stats --timeout=180 --exclude=/distfiles --exclude=/local --exclude=/packages"
PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp"
PORTDIR="/usr/portage"
PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/usr/local/portage"
SYNC="rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage"
USE="X a52 aac acl acpi alsa berkdb bluetooth branding bzip2 cairo cdr cli cracklib crypt crypto cups dbus dri dts dvd dvdr eds emboss encode esd evo fam firefox flac fortran gdbm gif gpm gstreamer gtk hal iconv ipv6 isdnlog jpeg kde libnotify mad mga mikmod mp3 mp4 mpeg mudflap ncurses nls nptl nptlonly ogg opengl openmp pam pcre pdf perl png ppds pppd python qt3 qt3support qt4 quicktime rdesktop readline reflection sdl session spell spl ssl startup-notification svg sysfs tcpd thunar tiff truetype unicode usb vorbis win32codecs wxgtk1 wxwindows x264 x86 xml xorg xulrunner xv xvid zlib" ALSA_CARDS="via82xx" ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS="adpcm alaw asym copy dmix dshare dsnoop empty extplug file hooks iec958 ioplug ladspa lfloat linear meter mmap_emul mulaw multi null plug rate route share shm softvol" APACHE2_MODULES="actions alias auth_basic auth_digest authn_anon authn_dbd authn_dbm authn_default authn_file authz_dbm authz_default authz_groupfile authz_host authz_owner authz_user autoindex cache dav dav_fs dav_lock dbd deflate dir disk_cache env expires ext_filter file_cache filter headers ident imagemap include info log_config logio mem_cache mime mime_magic negotiation proxy proxy_ajp proxy_balancer proxy_connect proxy_http rewrite setenvif so speling status unique_id userdir usertrack vhost_alias" ELIBC="glibc" INPUT_DEVICES="keyboard mouse" KERNEL="linux" LCD_DEVICES="bayrad cfontz cfontz633 glk hd44780 lb216 lcdm001 mtxorb ncurses text" USERLAND="GNU" VIDEO_CARDS="vesa fbdev mga"
Unset:  CPPFLAGS, CTARGET, EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS, FFLAGS, INSTALL_MASK, LANG, LINGUAS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS_FLAGS, PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS


Code:

blake-gentoo ~ # cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf                                                                                     
Section "ServerLayout"                                                                                                       
        Identifier     "X.org Configured"                                                                                   
        Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0                                                                                         
        InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"                                                                               
        InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"                                                                           
EndSection                                                                                                                   

Section "Files"
        ModulePath   "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
        FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/misc/"
        FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/TTF/"
        FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/OTF" 
        FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/Type1/"
        FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/"
        FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/"
EndSection                                     

Section "Module"
        Load  "glx"
        Load  "extmod"
        Load  "record"
        Load  "dbe"   
        Load  "xtrap"
        Load  "dri"   
EndSection           

Section "InputDevice"
        Identifier  "Keyboard0"
        Driver      "kbd"     
EndSection                     

Section "InputDevice"
        Identifier  "Mouse0"
        Driver      "mouse"
        Option      "Protocol" "auto"
        Option      "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
        Option      "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7" 
EndSection                                   

Section "Monitor"

        #DisplaySize      470   300     # mm
        Identifier   "Monitor0"             
        VendorName   "ACR"                 
        ModelName    "Acer AL2216W"         
        HorizSync    30.0 - 82.0           
        VertRefresh  56.0 - 76.0           
        Option      "DPMS"                 
EndSection                                 

Section "Device"

        ### Available Driver options are:-
        ### Values: <i>: integer, <f>: float, <bool>: "True"/"False",
        ### <string>: "String", <freq>: "<f> Hz/kHz/MHz"             
        ### [arg]: arg optional                                     
        #Option     "SWcursor"                  # [<bool>]           
        #Option     "HWcursor"                  # [<bool>]           
        #Option     "PciRetry"                  # [<bool>]           
        #Option     "SyncOnGreen"               # [<bool>]           
        #Option     "NoAccel"                   # [<bool>]           
        #Option     "ShowCache"                 # [<bool>]           
        #Option     "Overlay"                   # [<str>]           
        #Option     "MGASDRAM"                  # [<bool>]           
        #Option     "ShadowFB"                  # [<bool>]           
        #Option     "UseFBDev"                  # [<bool>]           
        #Option     "ColorKey"                  # <i>               
        #Option     "SetMclk"                   # <freq>             
        #Option     "OverclockMem"              # [<bool>]           
        #Option     "VideoKey"                  # <i>               
        #Option     "Rotate"                    # [<str>]           
        #Option     "TexturedVideo"             # [<bool>]           
        #Option     "Crtc2Half"                 # [<bool>]           
        #Option     "Crtc2Ram"                  # <i>               
        #Option     "Int10"                     # [<bool>]           
        #Option     "AGPMode"                   # <i>               
        #Option     "AGPSize"                   # <i>               
        #Option     "DigitalScreen1"            # [<bool>]           
        #Option     "DigitalScreen2"            # [<bool>]           
        #Option     "TV"                        # [<bool>]           
        #Option     "TVStandard"                # [<str>]           
        #Option     "CableType"                 # [<str>]           
        #Option     "NoHal"                     # [<bool>]           
        #Option     "SwappedHead"               # [<bool>]           
        #Option     "DRI"                       # [<bool>]
        #Option     "MergedFB"                  # [<bool>]
        #Option     "Monitor2HSync"             # [<str>]
        #Option     "Monitor2VRefresh"          # [<str>]
        #Option     "Monitor2Position"          # [<str>]
        #Option     "MetaModes"                 # [<str>]
        #Option     "OldDmaInit"                # [<bool>]
        #Option     "ForcePciDma"               # [<bool>]
        #Option     "AccelMethod"               # [<str>]
        #Option     "KVM"                       # [<bool>]
        Identifier  "Card0"
        Driver      "mga"
        VendorName  "Matrox Graphics, Inc."
        BoardName   "MGA G400/G450"
        BusID       "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
        Identifier "Screen0"
        Device     "Card0"
        Monitor    "Monitor0"
        SubSection "Display"
                Viewport   0 0
                Depth     1
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
                Viewport   0 0
                Depth     4
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
                Viewport   0 0
                Depth     8
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
                Viewport   0 0
                Depth     15
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
                Viewport   0 0
                Depth     16
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
                Viewport   0 0
                Depth     24
        EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "dri"
        Mode 0666
EndSection


Code:

blake-gentoo ~ #  rc-update show
           alsasound |      default
             apache2 |      default
                apmd |      default
            bootmisc | boot
             checkfs | boot
           checkroot | boot
               clock | boot
         consolefont | boot
         crypto-loop |      default
               cupsd |      default
                cvsd |      default
           denyhosts |      default
                hald |      default
              hdparm | boot
            hostname | boot
             hotplug |      default
             keymaps | boot
                lisa |      default
               local |      default nonetwork
          localmount | boot
             metalog |      default
             modules | boot
               mysql |      default
            net.eth0 |      default
              net.lo | boot
            netmount |      default
                 nfs |      default
                noip |      default
             proftpd |      default
           rmnologin | boot
              rsyncd |      default
               samba |      default
              serial | boot
                sshd |      default
             stunnel |      default
             urandom | boot
          vixie-cron |      default
              vmware |      default
                 xdm |      default


Thanks for the help. I am completely stumped on this one.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi there,

Have you by any chance enabled USB-Suspend when playing with powertop? I have the same behavior both with my mouse and keyboard once USB suspend is enabled.

Also check if you kernel is build with the following.
CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND=y


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, the CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND is not set.

This is a desktop computer, and I never suspend anything.

The mouse problem occurs immediately after the X server is started.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a problem that sounds exactly the same, but I've had it since 2.6.29 sometime. I don't think the problem is in the kernel, I'm leaning towards HAL on this, because I don't think I've spent any time updating it on this machine. My other machine doesn't have this issue.

If you find anything out, please post! This is slowly driving me crazy. :)
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You use 'mouse' driver for the mouse in xorg.conf, while recent X servers try use evdev by default. I think to retain the old behaviour without conflicts you have to give an option to X server 'AutoAddDevices off' in the ServerFlags section

http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/xorg-server-1.5-upgrade-guide.xml
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dmpogo wrote:
You use 'mouse' driver for the mouse in xorg.conf, while recent X servers try use evdev by default. I think to retain the old behaviour without conflicts you have to give an option to X server 'AutoAddDevices off' in the ServerFlags section

http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/xorg-server-1.5-upgrade-guide.xml
I agree with dmpogo. The two mouse configurations might be conflicting with each other.

To try and fix, first make sure you have built xorg-server with hal and evdev support, and also make sure hal is started and is in your default runlevel. Then, I would backup your xorg.conf (just in case) and then remove all your InputDevice sections from your xorg.conf as well as the calls to them in ServerLayout. Restart X and see what happens.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for your replies guys! I've been getting the same ideas you have from reading 100 different posts, and I've been trying to clean up my config and hope that will be the fix.

Right now I have:

-no InputDevice section in xorg.conf of any kind
-only x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev installed (no xf86-input-mouse or keyboard)
-recompiled hal, and for the hell of it, hal-info.
-checked that hald is in the default start level
-changed to INPUT_DEVICES="evdev" in /etc/make.conf
-recompiled xorg-server (1.5.3-r6 hal input_devices_evdev nptl sdl video_cards_nvidia xorg)
-recompiled all x11 drivers again (xf86-input-evdev and nvidia-drivers)

..and I have a working system... but the mouse still stutters!
(the keyboard seems to have improved a little bit, but it might be my imagination)

I simplified my normal setup and I currently just have a USB keyboard and a USB mouse plugged directly into the server.

I think I'll try going through the xorg-server-1.5 guide and see if it gives me any inspiration.

Any more ideas would be super-welcome! This has just been beating me for too long.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've upgraded to latest unstable xorg-server, xorg-x11 and evdev driver. Still no change in the stutter.

One more observation, when it starts stuttering, X can grab up to 100% of a CPU.

The USB ports that I'm plugged into are using the OHCI driver (is driver the right term?). The ports that seem to be linked the the EHCI driver are busted (got hit with something heavy a while ago. I've got USB interface I can use the replace them with tomorrow and we'll see if using a different USB port helps.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rlittle wrote:
I've upgraded to latest unstable xorg-server, xorg-x11 and evdev driver. Still no change in the stutter.

One more observation, when it starts stuttering, X can grab up to 100% of a CPU.

The USB ports that I'm plugged into are using the OHCI driver (is driver the right term?). The ports that seem to be linked the the EHCI driver are busted (got hit with something heavy a while ago. I've got USB interface I can use the replace them with tomorrow and we'll see if using a different USB port helps.


when mouse stutters, is there something in the log (check dmesq), for example that USB is reconnecting all the time ?
BTW, what hardware are you using ? (on mordern hardware all ports are usb2.0 capable, so EHCI/OHCI is not determined by port, but by the device plugged in. Mice, however, are typically USB1 devices)
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks very much for your help dmpogo. Nothing in dmesg or logs about anything disconnecting/connecting whether it's USB or HAL.

The machine is a several-year-old dual Opteron made by Sun (WZ2100, still amd64 of course). It has an AMD-8111 chipset. The interesting part of lspci looks like this:

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01:00.0 USB Controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] AMD-8111 USB (rev 0b) (prog-if 10 [OHCI])
   Subsystem: Sun Microsystems Computer Corp. Device 534d
   Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 19
   Memory at e0100000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
   Kernel driver in use: ohci_hcd

01:00.1 USB Controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] AMD-8111 USB (rev 0b) (prog-if 10 [OHCI])
   Subsystem: Sun Microsystems Computer Corp. Device 534d
   Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 19
   Memory at e0110000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
   Kernel driver in use: ohci_hcd

01:03.0 USB Controller: NEC Corporation USB (rev 43) (prog-if 10 [OHCI])
   Subsystem: Sun Microsystems Computer Corp. Device 534d
   Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 18
   Memory at e0120000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
   Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 2
   Kernel driver in use: ohci_hcd

01:03.1 USB Controller: NEC Corporation USB (rev 43) (prog-if 10 [OHCI])
   Subsystem: Sun Microsystems Computer Corp. Device 534d
   Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 19
   Memory at e0130000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
   Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 2
   Kernel driver in use: ohci_hcd

01:03.2 USB Controller: NEC Corporation USB 2.0 (rev 04) (prog-if 20 [EHCI])
   Subsystem: Sun Microsystems Computer Corp. Device 534d
   Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 132, IRQ 16
   Memory at e0140000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256]
   Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 2
   Kernel driver in use: ehci_hcd


Once I replaced the USB ports that were damaged, I realized exactly what you just wrote:
Quote:
(on mordern hardware all ports are usb2.0 capable, so EHCI/OHCI is not determined by port, but by the device plugged in.


I was looking at dmesg and hal logs and made some bad conclusions. I'm over-eager to fix this... thing.

I just tried to go "backwards" and switch from evdev to xorg keyboard and mouse drivers. I ended up with getting 3 keystrokes for every keypress in X. Not good for trying to log in. :) I couldn't fix it until I downgraded all the X server software down to "stable" versions and went back to using evdev.

At least I've eliminated hardware as a problem (unless my MB is going crazy)

I'm seriously running out of ideas. What could I have possibly done to make this one machine buggy?


If anyone can read this, this is my messages file (hald is logging verbosely now) as I
1)unplug mouse
2)unplug keyboard
3)plug in mouse
4)plug in keyboard

(gaps inserted by me)

Code:
Sep 30 20:10:57 zaphod kernel: usb 5-1: USB disconnect, address 2

Sep 30 20:11:04 zaphod kernel: usb 4-1: USB disconnect, address 2
Sep 30 20:11:04 zaphod put: Listening on /dev/input/event2 /dev/input/event1 /dev/input/event0: [5856]: 20:11:04.510 [D] addon-input.c:312: Input device '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_430_5_noserial_if0_logicaldev_input' destroyed, free data.
Sep 30 20:11:04 zaphod put: Listening on /dev/input/event2 /dev/input/event1 /dev/input/event0: [5856]: 20:11:04.513 [D] addon-input.c:402: Removing channel for '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_430_5_noserial_if0_logicaldev_input'
Sep 30 20:11:04 zaphod pi: listening on acpid socket /var/run/acpid.socket: [5876]: 20:11:04.523 [D] addon-acpi.c:304: Cannot connect to acpid event socket - retry connect

Sep 30 20:11:10 zaphod kernel: usb 5-1: new low speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 3
Sep 30 20:11:10 zaphod kernel: usb 5-1: New USB device found, idVendor=0430, idProduct=0100
Sep 30 20:11:10 zaphod kernel: usb 5-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=0, SerialNumber=0
Sep 30 20:11:10 zaphod kernel: usb 5-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
Sep 30 20:11:10 zaphod kernel: input: HID 0430:0100 as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:06.0/0000:01:03.1/usb5/5-1/5-1:1.0/input/input4
Sep 30 20:11:10 zaphod kernel: generic-usb 0003:0430:0100.0003: input: USB HID v1.10 Mouse [HID 0430:0100] on usb-0000:01:03.1-1/input0

Sep 30 20:11:15 zaphod kernel: usb 4-1: new low speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 3
Sep 30 20:11:15 zaphod kernel: usb 4-1: New USB device found, idVendor=0430, idProduct=0005
Sep 30 20:11:15 zaphod kernel: usb 4-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=0, SerialNumber=0
Sep 30 20:11:15 zaphod kernel: usb 4-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
Sep 30 20:11:15 zaphod kernel: input: HID 0430:0005 as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:06.0/0000:01:03.0/usb4/4-1/4-1:1.0/input/input5
Sep 30 20:11:15 zaphod kernel: generic-usb 0003:0430:0005.0004: input: USB HID v1.00 Keyboard [HID 0430:0005] on usb-0000:01:03.0-1/input0
Sep 30 20:11:15 zaphod put: Listening on /dev/input/event1 /dev/input/event0: [5856]: 20:11:15.460 [D] addon-input.c:376: /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_430_5_noserial_if0_logicaldev_input: Listening on /dev/input/event3


Thanks again if anyone has Any ideas.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since my wave of rebuilding (above) the mouse and keyboard have been a lot better. Grabbing a window and moving it rapidly still sends the CPU to 100%, but normal keyboard and mouse use is pretty flawless.

I guess I'm going to call this "solved", but it isn't really.

Thanks for your help everyone!
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