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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 10:53 pm    Post subject: Gentoo machine setup statistics: Public beta test launched Reply with quote

Hello!

Under the umbrella of Google Summer of Code 2009 a tool to collect data on Gentoo machine setups has been developed to be able to better prioritize development efforts in Gentoo.
The data collected ranges from details about installed packages to compile flags to the selection of mirrors. What data is submitted can be configured freely to match your needs of privacy.

With the collected data Gentoo will be able to better answer all sorts of questions including:
  • Which non-system packages deserve extra attention?
  • What common setup mistakes do people make?
  • How well is the usage of mirrors balanced?


You can check out the test instance by following these steps:
Code:
sudo layman -a sping
sudo autounmask =app-admin/gentoo-smolt-9999
sudo emerge -av =app-admin/gentoo-smolt-9999

smoltSendProfile --server=http://smolt.hartwork.org:45678/


After an hour your data will be included in the report:

More documentation (especially on control over privacy) can be found here:


I hope you have a few minutes to participate.

Thanks for your time and interest!



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moved from Other Things Gentoo to Gentoo Chat and made sticky. Old stats sticky here.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is the intention to introduce smolt to the official tree anytime "soon", like, <1 month?
If so, I'll hold for that. Overlays are a great tool, but I prefer not to need keeping track of several of them. :)
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smolt is already available, the Gentoo branch is experimental still and will be merged into the Smolt mainline sometime soon. So this is for testing only, a widespread "official" usage will be announced through other channels.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very interesting statistics.
A question now, I run funtoo ~amd64. Can I still install the tools or would you prefer not ? (not meant to start a polemic here btw :) Just asking because I don't know if you would prefer it to be 100% pure Gentoo or if something so heavily based on Gentoo as Funtoo can be of interest for you :) )
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It should be no problem to use it on Funtoo.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for your very fast answer V-Li, then I will install it :)
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheAbu wrote:
Thank you for your very fast answer V-Li, then I will install it :)


I agree with Fauli, you're definitely wanted.

Seems like you got company, looks like 2 funtoo machines now:
http://smolt.hartwork.org:45678/static/stats/gentoo.html#repositories
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 12:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

when I try smoltSendProfile --server=http://smolt.hartwork.org:45678 I get:
[Errno 14] HTTP Error 500: Internal error
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Missed this earlier...I'm on board. I participated in the original gentoo statistics system, until it suddenly just went away. Maybe something like that can return...it provides a very interesting look at the trends of the installed base.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 3:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

energyman76b wrote:
when I try smoltSendProfile --server=http://smolt.hartwork.org:45678 I get:
[Errno 14] HTTP Error 500: Internal error


I had it from time to time, too, no idea yet, why.

Can you give it a second try and see if it's "permanent" for you?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 3:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

permanent. I tried it - I don't know, a douzend times? I just tried it again. No go.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 4:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

energyman76b wrote:
permanent. I tried it - I don't know, a douzend times? I just tried it again. No go.


Just tried again for me, worked fine.

Are you sure it's gentoo-smolt, not plain smolt? (Does the information submitted contain Gentoo-specific stuff? Can you have a look?)
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 4:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

eix smolt
* app-admin/smolt
Available versions: (~)1.2 (~)1.4 (~)9999[1] {gtk qt4}
Homepage: https://fedorahosted.org/smolt/
Description: The Fedora hardware profiler

[I] app-admin/gentoo-smolt [1]
Available versions: (**)9999 {qt4}
Installed versions: 9999(02:00:33 07.10.2009)(qt4)
Homepage: https://fedorahosted.org/smolt/
Description: The Fedora hardware profiler

[1] "sping" /usr/local/portage/layman/sping

2 Treffer.


I am gone for the next 10-12h so no irc ;)
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

energyman76b wrote:
eix smolt
* app-admin/smolt
Available versions: (~)1.2 (~)1.4 (~)9999[1] {gtk qt4}
Homepage: https://fedorahosted.org/smolt/
Description: The Fedora hardware profiler

[I] app-admin/gentoo-smolt [1]
Available versions: (**)9999 {qt4}
Installed versions: 9999(02:00:33 07.10.2009)(qt4)
Homepage: https://fedorahosted.org/smolt/
Description: The Fedora hardware profiler

[1] "sping" /usr/local/portage/layman/sping

2 Treffer.

I see, that looks alright.

energyman76b wrote:
I am gone for the next 10-12h so no irc ;)

Maybe we can meet in IRC later and have you submit again while I monitor the log files live?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 3:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't get it to install... :(

Code:
>>> Emerging (1 of 1) app-admin/gentoo-smolt-9999 from sping
 * checking ebuild checksums ;-) ...                                            [ ok ]
 * checking auxfile checksums ;-) ...                                           [ ok ]
 * checking miscfile checksums ;-) ...                                          [ ok ]
 * CPV:  app-admin/gentoo-smolt-9999
 * REPO: sping
 * USE:  elibc_glibc kernel_linux userland_GNU x86
>>> Unpacking source...
 * GIT NEW clone -->
 *    repository:               git://git.goodpoint.de/smolt-gentoo.git
Initialized empty Git repository in /usr/portage/distfiles/git-src/gentoo-smolt/.git/
remote: Counting objects: 7823, done.
remote: Compressing objects: 100% (3904/3904), done.
remote: Total 7823 (delta 5566), reused 5037 (delta 3496)
Receiving objects: 100% (7823/7823), 2.32 MiB | 467 KiB/s, done.
Resolving deltas: 100% (5566/5566), done.
warning: remote HEAD refers to nonexistent ref, unable to checkout.

 *    at the commit:            15b6ee4bef32e8f06c98b76adab4fec3f4eb6d2d
 *    branch:                   gentoo
 *    storage directory:        "/usr/portage/distfiles/git-src/gentoo-smolt"
Initialized empty Git repository in /var/tmp/portage/app-admin/gentoo-smolt-9999/work/gentoo-smolt-9999/.git/
warning: remote HEAD refers to nonexistent ref, unable to checkout.

fatal: git checkout: updating paths is incompatible with switching branches.
Did you intend to checkout 'origin/gentoo' which can not be resolved as commit?
>>> Unpacked to /var/tmp/portage/app-admin/gentoo-smolt-9999/work/gentoo-smolt-9999
>>> Source unpacked in /var/tmp/portage/app-admin/gentoo-smolt-9999/work
>>> Compiling source in /var/tmp/portage/app-admin/gentoo-smolt-9999/work/gentoo-smolt-9999 ...
>>> Source compiled.
>>> Test phase [not enabled]: app-admin/gentoo-smolt-9999

>>> Install gentoo-smolt-9999 into /var/tmp/portage/app-admin/gentoo-smolt-9999/image/ category app-admin
/var/tmp/portage/app-admin/gentoo-smolt-9999/temp/environment: line 3478: cd: /var/tmp/portage/app-admin/gentoo-smolt-9999/work/gentoo-smolt-9999/client: No such file or directory
make -j3 install DESTDIR=/var/tmp/portage/app-admin/gentoo-smolt-9999/image/
make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
 * ERROR: app-admin/gentoo-smolt-9999 failed:
 *   Install failed
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for reporting. i hopefully fixed the problem in the ebuild now.
please re-sync (sudo layman -s sping) and try again. if it still doesn't work after, please let me know.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 4:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Failed here. It is almost 2 hours since you have posted the above message. Should it take this long for your update to be captured by layman? Here is what git log gives:
Code:
...ocal/portage/layman/sping> git log | head
commit 31da319f53788d96a9a54906b8a5239ec5dbf299
Author: Sebastian Pipping <sping@gentoo.org>
Date:   Tue Jan 5 04:03:18 2010 +0100

    app-admin/gentoo-smolt: Workaround no-master-branch issue

commit 1727b1d536c00454502ff0e5e11293c502c9057c
Author: Sebastian Pipping <sping@gentoo.org>
Date:   Tue Jan 5 02:44:05 2010 +0100
I guess the error I am getting is essentially the same one:
Code:
...ocal/portage/layman/sping> cat /var/tmp/portage/app-admin/gentoo-smolt-9999/temp/build.log
>>> cfg-update-1.8.2-r1: Creating checksum index...
 * CPV:  app-admin/gentoo-smolt-9999
 * REPO: sping
 * USE:  amd64 elibc_glibc kernel_linux multilib qt4 userland_GNU
sandbox:main  signal SIGQUIT already had a handler ...

 * GIT NEW clone -->
 *    repository:       git://git.goodpoint.de/smolt-gentoo.git
Initialized empty Git repository in /opt/distfiles/git-src/gentoo-smolt/.git/
remote: Counting objects: 7823, done.
remote: Compressing objects: 100% (3904/3904), done.
remote: Total 7823 (delta 5566), reused 5037 (delta 3496)
Receiving objects: 100% (7823/7823), 2.32 MiB | 564 KiB/s, done.
Resolving deltas: 100% (5566/5566), done.
warning: remote HEAD refers to nonexistent ref, unable to checkout.

 *    at the commit:      15b6ee4bef32e8f06c98b76adab4fec3f4eb6d2d
 *    branch:          gentoo
 *    storage directory:    "/opt/distfiles/git-src/gentoo-smolt"
Initialized empty Git repository in /var/tmp/portage/app-admin/gentoo-smolt-9999/work/gentoo-smolt-9999/.git/
warning: remote HEAD refers to nonexistent ref, unable to checkout.

fatal: git checkout: updating paths is incompatible with switching branches.
Did you intend to checkout 'origin/gentoo' which can not be resolved as commit?
>>> Unpacked to /var/tmp/portage/app-admin/gentoo-smolt-9999/work/gentoo-smolt-9999
sandbox:main  signal SIGQUIT already had a handler ...

sandbox:main  signal SIGQUIT already had a handler ...

sandbox:main  signal SIGQUIT already had a handler ...

/var/tmp/portage/app-admin/gentoo-smolt-9999/temp/environment: line 3508: cd: /var/tmp/portage/app-admin/gentoo-smolt-9999/work/gentoo-smolt-9999/client: No such file or directory
make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
 * ERROR: app-admin/gentoo-smolt-9999 failed:
 *   Install failed
 *
 * Call stack:
 *     ebuild.sh, line  48:  Called src_install
 *   environment, line 3509:  Called die
 * The specific snippet of code:
 *       emake install DESTDIR="${D}" || die "Install failed";
 *
 * If you need support, post the output of 'emerge --info =app-admin/gentoo-smolt-9999',
 * the complete build log and the output of 'emerge -pqv =app-admin/gentoo-smolt-9999'.
 * This ebuild is from an overlay named 'sping': '/usr/local/portage/layman/sping/'
 * The complete build log is located at '/var/tmp/portage/app-admin/gentoo-smolt-9999/temp/build.log'.
 * The ebuild environment file is located at '/var/tmp/portage/app-admin/gentoo-smolt-9999/temp/environment'.
 * S: '/var/tmp/portage/app-admin/gentoo-smolt-9999/work/gentoo-smolt-9999'
sandbox:main  signal SIGQUIT already had a handler ...

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 4:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What error do you get from portage - same again?

If so could you do
Code:
sudo rm -Rf /usr/portage/distfiles/git-src/gentoo-smolt

and try again?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 4:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sping wrote:
What error do you get from portage - same again?

If so could you do
Code:
sudo rm -Rf /usr/portage/distfiles/git-src/gentoo-smolt

and try again?
This was a fresh checkout. I just checked out using layman -a sping.

EDIT: Is this what the directory structure should look like?
Code:
...ocal/portage/layman/sping> l -a /opt/distfiles/git-src/gentoo-smolt
total 12K
4.0K ./  4.0K ../  4.0K .git/
...ocal/portage/layman/sping> l -a /opt/distfiles/git-src/gentoo-smolt/.git
total 40K
4.0K ./   4.0K HEAD    4.0K description  4.0K info/     4.0K packed-refs
4.0K ../  4.0K config  4.0K hooks/       4.0K objects/  4.0K refs/

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please show me the output of

Code:
fgrep '$Header' /usr/portage/eclass/git.eclass
.

Do is it differ from

Quote:
# $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/eclass/git.eclass,v 1.33 2009/12/29 17:18:16 scarabeus Exp $
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is the same:
Code:
...ocal/portage/layman/sping> fgrep '$Header' /usr/portage/eclass/git.eclass
# $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/eclass/git.eclass,v 1.33 2009/12/29 17:18:16 scarabeus Exp $

EDIT: Are you on some irc channel. It will be quicker to sort this thing out on irc.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the log: we met on IRC and after manually fixing .git/HEAD to
Code:
ref: refs/heads/gentoo

on the remote repo things seem to work fine.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah, still getting the

Code:

smoltSendProfile --server=http://smolt.hartwork.org:45678/

<...snipped...>

Your choice (s)end (v)iew (q)uit: s

Error contacting Server: HTTP Error 500: Internal error
Could not send - Exiting


I'll retry a few more times before I go to bed. Coming from 98.198.198.151 if it helps you track it down in the logs (6:30AM here, soon to bed, dunno if ill be up long enough to suss it out on IRC or whatnot - I could do so tomorrow)

I did have another question though regarding submissions from users with multiple Gentoo systems.

If I have a half dozen Gentoo machines, would you be interested in one from each?
Or would one submission per user be more useful data for you?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Everything worked for me :)
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