[kde-testing] and [kde-crazy] KDE4 overlays thread (part 4)

jeanfrancis · Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 5:59 pm Post subject:

Hmmm. Part of the #gentoo-kde IRC channel on Freenode : "4.5.0 WON'T get to main tree"

duryodhana · n00b Joined: 13 Jan 2008 Posts: 64

kdepim-4.5.0 is not ready yet. It'll be ready in kde-4.5.1, so they will be released together.

jeanfrancis · Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 6:38 pm Post subject:

devsk · Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 7:42 pm Post subject:

kernelOfTruth · Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 7:49 pm Post subject:

devsk · Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 7:53 pm Post subject:

Dorsai! · Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 8:04 pm Post subject:

which packages do i have to mask (on ~arch) to get a working kdepim?

kdepimlibs-4.5.0
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kernelOfTruth · Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 8:28 pm Post subject:

xibo · Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 8:28 pm Post subject:

kernelOfTruth · Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 8:29 pm Post subject:

earendilion · Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 8:40 pm Post subject:

pykde4 fails to compile with this error :

"Mapped type has already been defined in another module"

Do you know what that means ? I tried to recompile sip, PyQt4 and the whole Qt stuff, but it made nothing

Thank you all
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Lustmored · Apprentice Joined: 28 May 2010 Posts: 184 Location: Poland

kdepim won't be released with KDE-4.5.1...

Instead, they will release a new beta every 4.5.x release and hopes they will make it into SC 4.6... (I have read it on the kdepim mailing list and on some blogs).

So - the argument about waiting for kdepim makes SC 4.5... Unavailable :lol:

I have overlay and only cantor took hours (HOURS!! some hang on one file at gcc 4.5.1 here) to compile, but everything works as expected.

devsk · Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:02 pm Post subject:

How is the kontact-4.4.5 going to use kdelibs-4.5.0? Confused?

xibo · Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:09 pm Post subject:

devsk · Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:21 pm Post subject:

devsk · Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:53 pm Post subject:

OK, 34 minutes later, I am all (whatever I had installed previously) emerged and ready to go! Sort of surprised that gcc 4.5.1 compiled it all.

Only thing failed for me: yawp-0.3.2. Hopefully, a fix will come along soon!

wrc1944 · Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:30 am Post subject:

Hmmm.. This seems like a big monkey-wrench thown into my nice gentoo/kde-4.5.0 plans.

So, in order to continue using my 7+ years distro/DE/mail client of choice for at least until kde-4.5.1 appears (6 months?), I have to use the kde-testing overlay, and mask kdepim-4.5.0 and kdepimlibs? Will my old kmail-4.4.5 (with my 7 years of archived emails) still work seemlessly with just a rebuild after updating everything else to 4.5.0? :roll:

I happily ran the overlay 9999's for 2 years on 2 boxes, so that doesn't scare me, but at this point I really don't want to run qt/kde 9999 anymore. Call me crazy, but for some reason I just wish to settle down for a while with nice ~xf86 and ~amd64 sytems, running the usual ~Arch qt version and kde-4.5.0, with kmail.

Guess I'll try the kde-testing overlay on my amd64 testing box, and see where that is at now. Haven't looked at it since kde.4.4.0. Any tips or advice?

My main concern is kmail giving me problems.
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devsk · Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 4:50 am Post subject:

Move to 4.5 from 4.4.4 was smooth. No problems so far. I think the absence of kdepim is overblown, because all apps which were compiled and linked against 4.4.4 worked fine when used against 4.5 kdelibs. I did not even have to recompile or link. So, some of those apps can stay at 4.4.5. yawp gave me compile error but it loads and runs fine. Same for knotes-4.4.5.

So, @Gentoo devs: Just release the damn thing!

wrc1944 · Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 5:32 am Post subject:

devsk,
Wish I'd have checked back and seen your post. :lol:

I got the overlay, unmasked and keyworded 4.5.0, but got the kdepimlibs blockers on -upD @world. No matter what I tried (uninstall, install, mask, unmask, etc. whatever versions, I couldn't seem to figure it out. :roll:

Finally, I remembered how I used to do it when running kde-live stuff with the overlay. (When you're old, it's amazing how fast you forget things... :roll:

). Oh yeah- sets- duh! :oops:

I made quickpkgs of kmail, kdepimlibs, kontact, kmail backup, etc., and did a quick

devsk · Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 5:45 am Post subject:

When the packages were split (long time ago), I picked and chose the apps I wanted. I used no sets! Just plain old brute force. List all the apps I wanted on the command line and made sure they land in my world file to track updates. From then, upgrading has been as simple as:

devsk · Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 5:49 am Post subject:

wrc1944 · Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 6:07 am Post subject:

Yeah- I basically do the same thing. After I do those four basic sets, I do

Dorsai! · Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 6:49 am Post subject:

I tried 4.5.0 yesterday and performance was really bad. A CPU usage of ~20% (idle) with either accelleration on or off and a very, very unresponsive plasma drove me to back to 4.4.5.

also I noticed a ~200MB higher memory footprint.

I hope this gets fixed in 4.5.1 when it comes to portage.

devsk · Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 7:07 am Post subject:

wrc1944 · Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 7:35 am Post subject:

While booted to gnome, I just finished emerging the my 4 basic sets (104 kde-4.5.0 packages) posted above, and have logged into kde.4.5.0.

Things seemed snappier and more responsive. However, Konqueror segfaulted when I tried to open this forum, but when I resored the session it came right up, and I'm posting. A few panel and menu items aren't there, but I haven't done my full install. Maybe I need to do that, reboot, and also try a new .kde4 directory.

Rekonq comes up OK- haven't recompiled it. Cpu idle is the normal 1-2%. Memory usage change is unknown, as I just logged out of gnome into kde- didn't reboot.
This is working out better than I thought. If I get kmail back, I'll consider it a success.

Well, enough for tonight.

BTW, this is a pure ~amd64 gcc-4.5.1/graphite system.
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