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Ozymandias Tux's lil' helper


Joined: 10 Apr 2002 Posts: 81 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2002 11:12 am Post subject: Programmes editor |
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Hi there,
just wondering, I am looking for a good programmers editor, I use vim now, but for programming it isn't ideal, I tried emacs, but the two editors have the same disadvatages (both came from shell editors where the are very good, but I want gui when programming) any ideas? I use kde, so a kde editor would be great.
Now I use kwrite as programmers editor, but I am looking for one to do automatic indentation (also when I place a closing bracket '}' it should jump back) A function list would be helpfull, but integration with make etc isn't necessairy. What are you using? What about Kate or KDevelop?
And don't flame about emacs or vim!
greetz Ozy |
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credmp Apprentice


Joined: 02 Jul 2002 Posts: 207 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2002 11:51 am Post subject: |
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Hi,
Well.. Kate seems good... nice and fast... but if you want a full IDE you should go with KDevelop... I also heard that you can use vim as the editor in KDevelop (best of both worlds?) but have not tried it myself...
I myself use emacs|vim most of the time
-- Arjen |
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trythil Tux's lil' helper


Joined: 06 Jun 2002 Posts: 123 Location: RHIT, Terre Haute, IN, USA
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Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2002 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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If you want a GUI when programming, you could always use gvim, as it sounds like you're most used to it.
There is a "kvim" KPart being developed for use in i.e. KDevelop (among many other KDE apps), but I don't know how far along it is. |
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rphillips Retired Dev

Joined: 18 Apr 2002 Posts: 92
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AnimalMachine Tux's lil' helper


Joined: 27 Apr 2002 Posts: 106 Location: Milwaukee, WI USA
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Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2002 3:33 am Post subject: Re: Programmes editor |
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| Ozymandias wrote: | | just wondering, I am looking for a good programmers editor, I use vim now, but for programming it isn't ideal, I tried emacs, but the two editors have the same disadvatages (both came from shell editors where the are very good, but I want gui when programming) any ideas? I use kde, so a kde editor would be great. |
What language are you programming in? Depending on the language, the answer could vary. For instance, I'm using netbeans right now to do Java programming - but I wouldn't use it for C/C++ or Python ... KDevelop looks kinda neat I suppose, but I never got around to using it. I love using vim for actual C/C++ coding, but dealing with makefiles and gdb can kinda suck after being spoiled on Visual C++ (say what you will about MS, but they make a rockin' IDE). If you're looking to generate actual GUI code, then you might want to look at Glade (for GTK+) or QT Designer. |
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jtanner Tux's lil' helper


Joined: 23 May 2002 Posts: 121 Location: Atlanta, GA
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Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2002 4:43 am Post subject: |
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Hope this isn't too OT but...
XEmacs is actually a very modern IDE--the problem is that most of the cool IDE-type features are turned off by default. If you're interested, check out func-menu and some of the other extensions. I think someone posted about a nifty java ide extension in one of the recent vi vs emacs vs ... threads as well.
Jim |
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digitalnick Apprentice

Joined: 30 Jun 2002 Posts: 243 Location: Lawrence KS USA
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Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2002 6:42 am Post subject: |
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| ive used kdvelope before and it worked nicly for me the makefile generation and doc skeletons were kinda snappy for whipping out projects |
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trythil Tux's lil' helper


Joined: 06 Jun 2002 Posts: 123 Location: RHIT, Terre Haute, IN, USA
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Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2002 7:03 am Post subject: |
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They're fast, and KDevelop is very nice, but the one thing I didn't like KDevelop was how hard it was to specify multiple build targets. For the project I'm working on now, I've had to generate three shared libraries and a main executable; I couldn't find a way to do that in KDevelop. So I went back to manual Makefile generation  |
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ivikp n00b

Joined: 30 Jun 2002 Posts: 2
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Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2002 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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| i used to use joe, but now im hooked by vim. if you definately need a gui, i dont know what to say, but if you're looking for something that is nice (extremely easy to use, but without syntax highlighting), i would use joe. |
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Codec & Electron n00b


Joined: 10 Jul 2002 Posts: 43 Location: Düsseldorf, Germany
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Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2002 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Hi there,
just wondering, I am looking for a good programmers editor, I use vim now, but for programming it isn't ideal, I tried emacs, but the two editors have the same disadvatages (both came from shell editors where the are very good, but I want gui when programming) any ideas? I use kde, so a kde editor would be great.
Now I use kwrite as programmers editor, but I am looking for one to do automatic indentation (also when I place a closing bracket '}' it should jump back) A function list would be helpfull, but integration with make etc isn't necessairy. What are you using? What about Kate or KDevelop?
And don't flame about emacs or vim!
greetz Ozy |
I recommend jEdit if your development machine is fast enough to consider Java/Swing applications *responsive*. Just read the web page you'll surely like it. |
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correctclick n00b


Joined: 18 Jul 2002 Posts: 71
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Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2002 3:56 pm Post subject: A good php editor, anyone? |
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Hi, I'm looking for a good (free) php editor that will run nicely on Gentoo w/ KDE 3. Does anyone have any suggestions? A good editor is one with syntax highlighting, function/class/method auto completion, project management, etc.
Is there anyone developing php applications on Gentoo? What are you using?
I'd appreciate any ideas. Thanks! |
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ivan n00b

Joined: 20 Jul 2002 Posts: 4
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Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2002 5:37 pm Post subject: emacs... |
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Defenately emacs with php-mode. You can get php-mode here:
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=18584
Put:
(load "/home/you/.emacs.d/php-mode-102.el")
(require 'php-mode)
(add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '("\\.php$" . php-mode) )
(setq auto-mode-alist (cons '("\\.php$" . php-mode)auto-mode-alist))
in your .emacs file. |
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duegatti n00b


Joined: 28 Jun 2002 Posts: 17 Location: Scappoose, OR, USA
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Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2002 6:48 pm Post subject: if emacs is just too much program for you |
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try nedit, and down load the pat file (pattern file) from nedit for php (php4).
Vi/VIM both have syntax highlighting for php.
If you use Nedit, to incorporate the php pat file, run it from the command line first:
nedit -import nameofpatfile
then save the defaults and it'll be there for ever and ever and ever...okay at least until you remove the nedit files from your $home. _________________ #!/bin/sh {who;} {last;} {pause;} {grep;} {touch;} {unzip;} mount /dev/girl -t {wet;} {fsck;} {fsck;} {fsck;} {fsck;} echo yes yes yes {yes;} umount {/dev/girl;zip;} rm -rf {wet.spot;} {sleep;} finger: permission denied
- LUGnut, #orlug, OPN |
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mellofone Apprentice


Joined: 13 Apr 2002 Posts: 286
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Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2002 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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vi
Sorry. Had to say it  |
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mikki n00b


Joined: 14 Jul 2002 Posts: 51 Location: On Top
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Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2002 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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Humph. How about 'cat'. What, are you afraid you won't get it right the first time!?
Mikki |
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BoBB Tux's lil' helper


Joined: 15 Jun 2002 Posts: 143 Location: Mesa, AZ
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Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2002 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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does vim have autocompletion? i have never noticed, and i often find my self fskcing my config files trying to use tab completion and not noticing  |
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KiTaSuMbA Guru


Joined: 28 Jun 2002 Posts: 430 Location: Naples Italy
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Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2002 1:47 am Post subject: |
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| BoBB wrote: | does vim have autocompletion? i have never noticed, and i often find my self fskcing my config files trying to use tab completion and not noticing  |
I think at least half of us have screwed a conf/shell script like that at least once. Bash completion can make you very lazy...  _________________ Need to flame people LIVE on IRC? Join #gentoo-otw on freenode! |
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puddpunk l33t


Joined: 20 Jul 2002 Posts: 681 Location: New Zealand
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Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2002 1:58 am Post subject: . |
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Get Quanta+, its in portage already!
It runs in KDE, it has syntax highlighting and its not only PHP3/4, it does javascript and html and CSS as well.
The ultimate Web development IDE.
and its not one of those wysiwyg editors either  |
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dioxmat Bodhisattva

Joined: 04 May 2002 Posts: 709 Location: /home/mat
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Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2002 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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I use nedit everyday :-]
its really cool : macro support, perl like regexp, ()/[] matching, etc...
also note that there is a php-html pattern to have highlighting for php and html at the same time... _________________ mat |
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jmarshall n00b

Joined: 04 Jul 2002 Posts: 10
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Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2002 1:06 am Post subject: |
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| BoBB wrote: | does vim have autocompletion? i have never noticed, and i often find my self fskcing my config files trying to use tab completion and not noticing  |
Yes, it does. ctrl-p (previous) and ctrl-n (next) when in insert mode do completions. ":help complete" for info on configuring where it looks for those completions. |
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niyogi Apprentice


Joined: 10 Apr 2002 Posts: 199 Location: Austin, TX
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Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2002 4:37 am Post subject: |
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anjuta is an awesome gtk-based editor that has native support for php syntax highlighting...
-S |
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S_aIN_t Guru


Joined: 11 May 2002 Posts: 488 Location: Ottawa
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Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2002 4:41 am Post subject: |
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i think Vim is the right way to go.. you learn how to use it once and use it for the rest of your life.
works on every platform. if you are ever stuck with some computer and you dont know what is available you can always drop to Vi and use it. Having experience with before hand will give you a great advantage.
in short, Vim is great, IMHO. |
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DArtagnan l33t


Joined: 30 Apr 2002 Posts: 942 Location: Israel, Jerusalem
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Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2002 4:51 am Post subject: |
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| S_aIN_t wrote: | i think Vim is the right way to go.. you learn how to use it once and use it for the rest of your life.
works on every platform. if you are ever stuck with some computer and you dont know what is available you can always drop to Vi and use it. Having experience with before hand will give you a great advantage.
in short, Vim is great, IMHO. |
I saw in some site that there are patches for brakets autocomplete  _________________ All for one and one for All
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puddpunk l33t


Joined: 20 Jul 2002 Posts: 681 Location: New Zealand
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Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2002 5:10 am Post subject: . |
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dont listen to these ppl
you want a GUI, project manager, upload wizzard, syntax highlighting, auto-completion, easy preview all in a nice KDE3 window, Quanta+ is the way to go.
I promise you wont be dissapointed  |
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DArtagnan l33t


Joined: 30 Apr 2002 Posts: 942 Location: Israel, Jerusalem
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Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2002 5:13 am Post subject: Re: . |
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| puddpunk wrote: | dont listen to these ppl
you want a GUI, project manager, upload wizzard, syntax highlighting, auto-completion, easy preview all in a nice KDE3 window, Quanta+ is the way to go.
I promise you wont be dissapointed  |
Don't listen to this people
You want to type alot then get VIM  _________________ All for one and one for All
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