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jba n00b
Joined: 22 Sep 2005 Posts: 35 Location: new york, ny
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Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 4:29 am Post subject: Gentoo + Firefox + Flash + Sound + 24 hours = Fail. |
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I have a hard time believing that i'm the only one with this problem, but I can't seem to find a solution (forum search isn't exactly helping) - only some non-gentoo related suggestions to downgrade flash to v9. (which isn't really a suggestion, as flash10 support is pretty much required these days).
Synopsis: I run Firefox 3.0.6 &/or Opera 9.63 on gentoo on three desktop workstations (home, work, consulting gig), running 2.6.27-gentoo-r7, 2.6.24-gentoo-r3, and 2.6.25-gentoo-r8 respectively. Flash (version 10.0 r15) audio stops working after firefox has been running for anywhere between 8 and 24 hours.
ALSA enabled without any sound daemons. All latest stable packages available via portage.
Sound works great, i can run firefox + flash video + mplayer + vlc all at the same time without issue - and often will have some music streaming in via mplayer, and check out a youtube video without a problem.
The problem appears to be somewhere between flash and alsa. After 8-24 hours of running firefox, flash audio ceases to work. Like clockwork, i unlock my desktop after having been away overnight, and click on a flash video link, and the video will play with no sound for about 2 seconds and then stop (apparently hung on a write to the audio subsystem). The only way to get flash audio/video back is to restart firefox via a gentle 'killall firefox'. Mplayer and other apps continue to play sound without an issue.
As you can see, it doesn't appear to be kernel version specific. I have run daemons like esd in the past, but found that native alsa worked better (until running into this issue).
What am i missing here? Anyone else having this issue? Anyone know a fix? Next time it happens i'll try to get a strace on ffox.
(thanks, as always).
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anfpunk Apprentice
Joined: 29 May 2003 Posts: 275 Location: Columbus, Oh
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Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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I'm having a similar problem. Except I'm using OSS4. Basically, anytime I close Firefox, I have to recompile libflashsupport or flash audio wont work. |
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Shamus397 Apprentice
Joined: 03 Apr 2005 Posts: 218 Location: Ur-th
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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:40 am Post subject: |
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I'm having this exact problem as well, so it's not just you. I'm going to try downgrading to v9 to see if that helps at all. |
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Shamus397 Apprentice
Joined: 03 Apr 2005 Posts: 218 Location: Ur-th
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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:46 am Post subject: |
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Same problem with v9. Could just be a stale cache though, I'll have to try restarting FF and see if the problem recurrs.
It occurs to me that this could be a FF (I'm on 3.0.3 ATM) problem and not a flash problem... I'll upgrade to 3.0.7 and try again with v10. |
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jba n00b
Joined: 22 Sep 2005 Posts: 35 Location: new york, ny
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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 5:22 am Post subject: |
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Shamus397 wrote: | Same problem with v9. Could just be a stale cache though, I'll have to try restarting FF and see if the problem recurrs.
It occurs to me that this could be a FF (I'm on 3.0.3 ATM) problem and not a flash problem... I'll upgrade to 3.0.7 and try again with v10. |
Yeah, i'd buy that, but i also run opera on one of my machines, and it happens in opera too. Seems to me a problem with flash, and there are plenty of hits with other distro's out there, but no clear fixes.. |
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jba n00b
Joined: 22 Sep 2005 Posts: 35 Location: new york, ny
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Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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Shamus397 wrote: | Same problem with v9. Could just be a stale cache though, I'll have to try restarting FF and see if the problem recurrs.
It occurs to me that this could be a FF (I'm on 3.0.3 ATM) problem and not a flash problem... I'll upgrade to 3.0.7 and try again with v10. |
Btw, i've read a few good things about the new version of flash - 10.0.22.87 - the beta before this (10.0.20 iirc) was, according to some the first version of flash to implement the alsa API in a non-braindead fashion. I upgraded to 10.0.22.87 last night and so far, so good. Will report back again tomorrow. (crosses fingers) |
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jba n00b
Joined: 22 Sep 2005 Posts: 35 Location: new york, ny
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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 3:01 pm Post subject: |
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Yep, that did it. Thanks adobe!! |
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jchau n00b
Joined: 15 Mar 2007 Posts: 74
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Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 4:06 am Post subject: same problem |
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I've had the same problem too. |
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jchau n00b
Joined: 15 Mar 2007 Posts: 74
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Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 4:15 am Post subject: did upgrade to 10.0.22.87; still have problem |
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I realized that I upgraded to =net-www/netscape-flash-10.0.22.87 but, I still got messed up audio after playing for a while tonight (I have a flash-based music player running). It appears to be the same problem as before, so the problem does not appear to be solved by the upgrade.
Code: | Searching...
[ Results for search key : netscape-flash ]
[ Applications found : 1 ]
* net-www/netscape-flash
Latest version available: 10.0.22.87
Latest version installed: 10.0.22.87
Size of files: 8,747 kB
Homepage: http://www.adobe.com/
Description: Adobe Flash Player
License: AdobeFlash-10
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Code: | Portage 2.1.6.7 (default/linux/x86/2008.0, gcc-4.1.2, glibc-2.8_p20080602-r1, 2.6.27-gentoo-r8-2009Jan22 i686)
=================================================================
System uname: Linux-2.6.27-gentoo-r8-2009Jan22-i686-Intel-R-_Pentium-R-_M_processor_1.73GHz-with-glibc2.0
Timestamp of tree: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 01:45:01 +0000
ccache version 2.4 [enabled]
app-shells/bash: 3.2_p39
dev-java/java-config: 1.3.7-r1, 2.1.7
dev-lang/python: 2.5.2-r7
dev-util/ccache: 2.4-r7
dev-util/cmake: 2.4.8
sys-apps/baselayout: 1.12.11.1
sys-apps/sandbox: 1.2.18.1-r2
sys-devel/autoconf: 2.13, 2.63
sys-devel/automake: 1.4_p6, 1.7.9-r1, 1.9.6-r2, 1.10.2
sys-devel/binutils: 2.18-r3
sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.4.0-r4
sys-devel/libtool: 1.5.26
virtual/os-headers: 2.6.27-r2
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="x86"
CBUILD="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
CFLAGS="-march=pentium-m -O2 -pipe"
CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /var/lib/hsqldb"
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/ca-certificates.conf /etc/env.d /etc/env.d/java/ /etc/fonts/fonts.conf /etc/gconf /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/terminfo /etc/texmf/language.dat.d /etc/texmf/language.def.d /etc/texmf/updmap.d /etc/texmf/web2c /etc/udev/rules.d"
CXXFLAGS="-march=pentium-m -O2 -pipe"
DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles"
FEATURES="ccache distlocks fixpackages parallel-fetch protect-owned sandbox sfperms strict unmerge-orphans userfetch"
GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://www.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/gentoo http://gentoo.mirrors.pair.com/ http://gentoo.netnitco.net http://open-systems.ufl.edu/mirrors/gentoo http://gentoo.mirrors.tds.net/gentoo ftp://mirror.datapipe.net/gentoo http://distfiles.gentoo.org http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/gentoo"
LDFLAGS="-Wl,-O1"
LINGUAS="en_US en"
MAKEOPTS="-j2"
PKGDIR="/usr/portage/packages"
PORTAGE_CONFIGROOT="/"
PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS="--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times --compress --force --whole-file --delete --stats --timeout=180 --exclude=/distfiles --exclude=/local --exclude=/packages"
PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp"
PORTDIR="/usr/portage"
PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/usr/local/portage"
SYNC="rsync://rsync.namerica.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage"
USE="X a52 aac acl acpi alsa bash-completion berkdb bluetooth bzip2 cairo caps cdparanoia cjk cli cracklib crypt cups dbus dell directfb divx dri dts dvb dvd eap-tls emacs encode exif fbcon ffmpeg flac fortran ftp gd gdbm gif gmedia gnutls gpm gstreamer gtk hal hardened iconv ipv6 isdnlog java javascript jpeg jpeg2k laptop libcaca logrotate lzo mad mailwrapper matroska mbrola midi mmx mmxext mp3 mpeg mudflap ncurses nls nptl nptlonly ogg openal opengl openmp pam pcmcia pcre pdf perl png ppds pppd prediction preview-latex python qt3support qt4 quicktime readline realmedia reflection samba scanner sdl session socks5 sound spell spl sse sse2 ssl svg sysfs tcpd theora threads tiff tk truetype unicode usb v4l v4l2 vcd vlm vorbis wifi win32codecs wmf wmp wxwindows x86 xinerama xml xorg xulrunner xv xvid xvmc zlib" ALSA_CARDS="intel8x0" ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS="adpcm alaw asym copy dmix dshare dsnoop empty extplug file hooks iec958 ioplug ladspa lfloat linear meter mmap_emul mulaw multi null plug rate route share shm softvol" APACHE2_MODULES="actions alias auth_basic authn_alias authn_anon authn_dbm authn_default authn_file authz_dbm authz_default authz_groupfile authz_host authz_owner authz_user autoindex cache dav dav_fs dav_lock deflate dir disk_cache env expires ext_filter file_cache filter headers include info log_config logio mem_cache mime mime_magic negotiation rewrite setenvif speling status unique_id userdir usertrack vhost_alias" CAMERAS="ptp2" ELIBC="glibc" INPUT_DEVICES="keyboard mouse evdev synaptics" KERNEL="linux" LCD_DEVICES="bayrad cfontz cfontz633 glk hd44780 lb216 lcdm001 mtxorb ncurses text" LINGUAS="en_US en" USERLAND="GNU" VIDEO_CARDS="intel"
Unset: CPPFLAGS, CTARGET, EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS, FFLAGS, INSTALL_MASK, LANG, LC_ALL, PORTAGE_COMPRESS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS_FLAGS, PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS
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jba n00b
Joined: 22 Sep 2005 Posts: 35 Location: new york, ny
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Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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jba wrote: | Yep, that did it. Thanks adobe!! |
Meh, i lied! Still having same problem with the latest build. Seems to take a touch longer, but maybe it was just luck. |
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ck42 l33t
Joined: 31 Jul 2003 Posts: 789
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Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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You can add me to the list as well. Currently running Flash 10.0.22.87
What I've done until now is restart alsa...which then killed FF.
I've never timed how long it takes before the audio stops working, but I'm sure we're dealing with the same issue here. VERY annoying.
Found something that appears to be working so far:
Create a file called rc in ~/.mozilla/firefox that contains, FIREFOX_DSP=auto
restart firefox.
This had the immediate affect of getting my sound going again w/o doing ANYTHING else. Now it's just a waiting game to see how long it last. |
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ck42 l33t
Joined: 31 Jul 2003 Posts: 789
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Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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So much for that. Back to no audio again. |
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Shades3D n00b
Joined: 25 Dec 2002 Posts: 39
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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This problem has existed for a long time now. I've had it across several gentoo installs. I haven't tested it with other browsers other than firefox, but it does happen to me. Though sometimes instead of no sound, it seems the sound gets stuck (like you'll hear a repeating bit of sound instead of no sound at all). Its happened on several versions of firefox, several versions of Alsa, and several versions of flash with several kernels. I'm not at home to put my configuration in the collection, but figured I'd add my hat to the people having the problem. _________________ (Insert witty and shady signature here) |
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hunky l33t
Joined: 19 Nov 2003 Posts: 910 Location: Alaska
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Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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Same problem here forever. If firefox runs awhile, then it begins slowing down. Not sure it is related to flash, but could be. But when I click on close tab, it takes several seconds. If I backspace on some typed text, it hesitates. Videos quit working and sound from them goes into a weird staccato. (Not sure if problem exists without trying to play a video or not - I could explore that a bit.) Running latest netscape-flash in portage. Keep hoping on version upgrades problem would eventually go away, but never has. |
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burmashave Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 01 Dec 2002 Posts: 82
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Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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I stumbled upon this thread while looking for something else. (I'm working on an IDE tape drive issue. One may question the forum search function.) I have the same problem using Firefox, Flash and ALSA, and I've had it across two Gentoo installations. I figgured it was some sort of config that I had messed up. |
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fwmartin n00b
Joined: 14 Jan 2005 Posts: 4
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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I've been having this problem too. I've found a quick way to get sound working again after it messes up.
In firefox disable flash (tools -> add - ons -> plugins) and then enable it again. You'll probably need to reload the flash pages after that. |
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shira Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 27 Aug 2002 Posts: 122
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Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, I've also experienced those symptoms. To me, they seem to be isolated to the 10.x series, although I'm not positive. When I'm at work, my RHEL5 workstation (with flash 10.something) gets about 6 hours of working sound before I'm forced to restart FF. When I tried using the 10.x series at home (on my Gentoo workstation), it was more like 8 working hours.
I've stuck to using the 9.x version for now, hoping that Adobe gets their act together eventually. |
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lordcris Apprentice
Joined: 09 Jul 2002 Posts: 248
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Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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this thing happens to me too.
but restarting firefox alone doesn't help.
i have to restart also thunderbird, skype, deluge or mplayer.
sometimes mplayer hangs while playing some trailer and i have to kill it manually to get youtube working again. |
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jchau n00b
Joined: 15 Mar 2007 Posts: 74
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Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 2:44 am Post subject: |
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fwmartin wrote: | I've been having this problem too. I've found a quick way to get sound working again after it messes up.
In firefox disable flash (tools -> add - ons -> plugins) and then enable it again. You'll probably need to reload the flash pages after that. |
Thanks. This seems to work & there's a lot less collateral damage with this method than the one I've been using before:
- Close Firefox (send TERM if it doesn't close on its own)
- restart ALSA (and hope that other programs like VirtualBox or acroread doesn't also die).
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defenderBG l33t
Joined: 20 Jun 2006 Posts: 817
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Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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acroread? why should it? I use kpdf, so I am not too sure if a pdf reader needs a sound service... |
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jchau n00b
Joined: 15 Mar 2007 Posts: 74
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Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 12:29 pm Post subject: |
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defenderBG wrote: | acroread? why should it? I use kpdf, so I am not too sure if a pdf reader needs a sound service... |
I'm not sure why, but since my work frequently requires me to read some PDF document or another, I often have acroread open. It usually dies whenever I restart ALSA. It might just be the same high-quality Adobe programming that's causing us to post on this thread...
Correction: Looking through the menu options for acroread it appears that acroread has a "Read Out Loud" feature. |
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MCUnable n00b
Joined: 14 Dec 2004 Posts: 3 Location: Seattle, WA
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Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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fwmartin wrote: | I've been having this problem too. I've found a quick way to get sound working again after it messes up.
In firefox disable flash (tools -> add - ons -> plugins) and then enable it again. You'll probably need to reload the flash pages after that. |
Glad I finally came across this thread... I've been resolving this issue by restarting Firefox for MONTHS! Thanks for the less-painful work-around.
Has anyone come up with a root cause for this issue yet? I see that it's been some time since the last post in this thread.
Thanks again! |
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robinmarlow Apprentice
Joined: 10 Mar 2004 Posts: 167
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Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 11:16 am Post subject: |
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I've got the same problem. flash 10.0.22.87 on opera or firefox using alsa only gives no sound after a few hours.
restarting firefox/opera resets the problem for the next few hours then it restarts.
guess this is what proprietary software does for you.
Robin |
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the_enigma Apprentice
Joined: 23 Aug 2004 Posts: 210 Location: Brisbane, Aus
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Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 9:09 am Post subject: |
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Same thing here, running 10.0.22.87 as well.
Also, does anyone else get that odd 1-2 pixel wide window? It's another flash-related problem, opening FF and viewing a page with Flash gives me a very thin window up in the top-left corner of the screen. Currently it has a width of 2, and a height of 796. I can't seem to move or resize it though, and I have no idea if it effects performance (as it only shows up with Firefox running, and disappears when Firefox closes. |
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jchau n00b
Joined: 15 Mar 2007 Posts: 74
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Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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the_enigma wrote: | Also, does anyone else get that odd 1-2 pixel wide window? |
I haven't seen this problem. |
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