New Ranking System - Will the l33tness Stop?

iamlarryboy · Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2003 7:06 am Post subject:

I like the current system. However either of the penguin ones would be cool too.

masseya · Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2003 6:05 pm Post subject:

xlyz · Veteran Joined: 27 Oct 2002 Posts: 1470 Location: Italy

I don't want to be a l33t!!!

Damn!! this is my 600th post!!

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ian! · Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 6:15 am Post subject:

I'm happy with the current ranking system. I do not see the point why we should change it.

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Andersson · Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2003 11:22 pm Post subject:

xlyz · Veteran Joined: 27 Oct 2002 Posts: 1470 Location: Italy

linc · Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2003 3:11 pm Post subject:

masseya · Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2003 5:39 pm Post subject:

Doctor · n00b Joined: 11 Feb 2003 Posts: 26

I find it funny that theres linux users that care about such a thing.
Of course by posting I'm risking losing my n00b title, ahh well.

Ari Rahikkala · Guru Joined: 02 Oct 2002 Posts: 370 Location: Finland

I don't personally really like titles-by-post-count a lot, but got quite interested when Penguin_Biker mentioned a forum which has the ranks backwards (making "n0obi3" the highest rank). I haven't read all of this thread so I can't be sure if somebody's already talked about it, but I'd consider this one damned good idea. It would not make any sense, and... well, do we need any more reasons to implement it than that

?

(ahh.... seems like far's suggestion is pretty close to this)
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meowsqueak · Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 3:48 am Post subject:

I don't know if this has already been mentioned here or elsewhere (and it's not exactly easy to search for) but how about maintaining a 'rank' based on a logarithmically time-weighted daily post mean? That way, brand new users need to maintain a decent post count for a period of time to reach the same rank as someone who's been on the forums for a long time and posts just as many per day... a combination of number of posts with service duration. No mention of 'quality' there either however.

I guess this just highlights the current problem with ranks - all it does is indicate the number of posts - nothing more, nothing less. A reward system, although 'cool' and actually quite interesting would be better, it's a lot of work to implement for something that ultimately doesn't really matter.

You could have a system where a post is worth nothing until someone marks it as 'useful' or 'has value' and someone else (and never the original poster) seconds it. Then the post is worth '1' and contributes to the original author's post count. Then over time the value diminishes according to some inverse hyperbolic co-tangental relationship between the daily post count and the... ok, I'll stop now.

I could rave on mindlessly some more but I should save it for later - I can rack up more posts that way :wink:

Andersson · Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 11:33 am Post subject:

I could live without the current postcount as well. If we need a ranking system, I think this sounds interesting.

pilla · Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 12:28 pm Post subject:

cult hero · Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 3:21 am Post subject:

I don't care what the thing is changed to just so long as I don't ever have to have the title "Tux's lil' helper." I mean... just... no. I'm a guy.
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hellama · n00b Joined: 17 Oct 2003 Posts: 22

Rem · Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 10:54 am Post subject:

Just bypassing a lot of factors (don't mean to bash the people posting a lot just helping others), you could say that people who post less, search more (succesfully).

So that way you could make something like this (with a big :wink:

off course):

- Indiana Jones
- 'Google' is my middle name
- Regular searcher
- Can't seem to find my...
- I've searched everywhere!
- Couldn't find my car keyes even if they were glued to my arm

But seriously, you could in general say that people who post a lot are committed with the society. The present system seems ok to me.
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pjp · Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 4:34 pm Post subject:

2 points for creativity.
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regeya · Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2003 2:52 am Post subject:

I agree with the "free time" proposal, definitely.

Maybe I'm just annoyed that people who've been here 11 months less than me have a higher ranking, and many of them getting there by posting 'bump bump' in dead threads several times a day :twisted:

but only posting 47 times doesn't really make me a 'n00b.' OK, so I don't have a lot of time to devote to posting here, and only a little more to devote to gentoo

but I don't feel like a n00b.

Plus, it's a little annoying that people are getting 'guru' status by posting bug reports to forums.gentoo.org instead of doing the right thing.

Yeah; I'd say that 2-300 posts in a month's time really indicates that a person has oodles of spare time (or at least lots of spare time to bump dead threads. :wink:

)

meowsqueak · Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2003 8:35 am Post subject:

You gotta have something to do while waiting for Gentoo to compile...

HogRider · Apprentice Joined: 29 May 2002 Posts: 160

I've just got to ask....

Does it really matter?

I find (in various situations) that those most concerned with rank are the ones least deserving of it. Conversely, those most deserving of praise/rank are those least concerned about it. YMMV
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dmartin · Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2004 11:11 pm Post subject:

chino_ · Apprentice Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 184 Location: Berlin

I tell you what... the ranking system should be disabled and no titles at all.

exceptions: admin/mod

that will get much less stupid onliners like "

" or "postcount++" alike stuff.

It's just dump to get 1000 posts in OTW in 3 weeks and brag to be a "veteran", seriously.
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Zepp · Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2004 10:09 pm Post subject:

I like #6

meowsqueak · Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2004 10:49 pm Post subject:

How about abolishing post-counts in 'chat' forums completely, and institute a system where the original thread author can assign 'points' to replies on the basis of usefulness/on-topicness etc. Needs more thought of course, but it rewards thoughtful and complete posts and simply ignores the rest.

As for "

" posts - you don't see those so much in the technical forums - they are usually in the less formal chat forums like 'Off the Wall'.

wilburpan · l33t Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 977

Another possibility, and I'm not sure that this is possible in phpBB, is to have the ranking be based on the ratio of non-OTW posts to OTW posts. It won't address the "bump" posts issue, but it will affect those who spend a lot of time in OTW spreading wrong interpretations of social Darwinism when they could be helping new users with their networking issues during the Gentoo install process. :twisted:

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