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avenj Retired Dev
Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 495 Location: New Hampshire
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 4:27 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, I suspect we could probably get it completely right next time (especially since this was the first real GRP release), but my heart's really just not in it anymore. I may stay on as strategic lead for a while and offer ideas to whoever picks it up, but I'm not really up for being directly involved with another release. Two is enough for me... |
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torque2k n00b
Joined: 08 Aug 2002 Posts: 29 Location: MI
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 4:27 am Post subject: Same problem with "Cannot find kernel..." |
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Hey, guys and gals...
I did the fix as listed above for /usr/sbin/genkernel and ran the genkernel gentoo-sources command, and I'm also getting the error:
Code: | Cannot find kernel NAME /tmp/KV
: aborting |
Any help? I won't be able to DL the newer CD1 for i686 for at least a week, as I'm dialed up while out of state, on vacation! There's got to be a fix for this...
Thanks!!!
BTW: I'm using the i686 CD1&2 date-stamped 20030731 (I believe, but definitely not the 0803 disc), but currently attempting to install on an Athlon XP 1800+ system; I've left the CHOST info at i686 per the guide...
EDIT: Well, I guess there IS a fix... make menuconfig is still there! _________________ INTEL INSIDE:
It's not just a label, it's a warning... |
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spacejunk n00b
Joined: 06 Aug 2003 Posts: 29
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 4:39 am Post subject: |
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I agree.
You've sat here for almost 24 hours now trying to help the GRP installers work around their problems. As far I can tell, the new ISO should get things working just fine. You've been a tremendous assistance, to me and everyone else having trouble.
If the Gentoo orders get pushed back, so be it; Gentoo isn't the first company to do it, and itwon't be the last. Better that things get delayed than your customers get defective material that sours their opinions towards Gentoo. This is good experience for the next release.
Please reconsider your resignation; the Gentoo project and all its users could really use your expertise. |
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avenj Retired Dev
Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 495 Location: New Hampshire
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 4:45 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the positive feedback - I really appreciate it. |
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spacejunk n00b
Joined: 06 Aug 2003 Posts: 29
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 5:07 am Post subject: |
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If I may make a suggestion for the next release (if you, regrettably, decide not to be involved in the next release, please pass this on):
It may be beneficial to automate the beginnings of the installation process for Gentoo. Let the user boot off the disc, and proceed like the following:
Gentoo Installation Menu
1) Stage 1 Installation
2) Stage 2 Installation
3) Stage 3 Installation
4) Gentoo Reference Platform Installation
After each option, provide menus for fdisk, formatting, and mounting, then (if 1, 2, or 3 is selected) allow the Stage installs to proceed as normal.
If GRP is selected, proceed with menu-based installation options. This doesn't need to be fancy (a menu setup not unlike Slackware's would work well).
Again, this is just a suggestion. I hope that maybe this will give some of the Gentoo developers a few ideas to kick around. |
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stonent Veteran
Joined: 07 Aug 2003 Posts: 1139 Location: Texas
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 6:01 am Post subject: |
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I swear I didn't read this thread before I posted my earlier thread but that was exactly my theory.
But it is an easy mistake to make, especially if you have the habit of hitting TAB. i.e. cd /m[tab]/ge[tab]......pa[tab] (it will throw in the trailing slash)
avenj wrote: | Jeez, I've had quite a night of incorrect theories.
Turns out it's the worst kind of bug - a documentation bug.
Instead of:
cp -a /mnt/cdrom/packages/* /mnt/gentoo/usr/portage/packages/
it should have been:
cp -a /mnt/cdrom/packages /mnt/gentoo/usr/portage/packages
Fixed install doc is in CVS and wil hit the website soon.
For people who already have this problem:
cd /usr/portage/packages
mkdir All
mv *tbz2 All/
then try proceeding with merging the kernel as per the install guide. |
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scriptkiddie l33t
Joined: 30 Mar 2003 Posts: 955
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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spacejunk... I believe there is a project in the works for an installation program for gentoo.. although I might be wrong |
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stonent Veteran
Joined: 07 Aug 2003 Posts: 1139 Location: Texas
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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That would be helpful, or at least a script that you can run such as stage1.sh stage2.sh or stage3.sh |
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scriptkiddie l33t
Joined: 30 Mar 2003 Posts: 955
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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I can write something like that.. a simple script... do you want one? |
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stonent Veteran
Joined: 07 Aug 2003 Posts: 1139 Location: Texas
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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Sure! If this install works out, I might be converting a rh9 system over to gentoo. I'm just doing stage3 because of the precompiled binaries.
I'm glad scp works, I can just copy it over and run it. |
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echo6 Guru
Joined: 04 Jan 2003 Posts: 587
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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I got the i686-1.4-20030803-cd1.iso from the UK mirror site, followed the install guide until genkernel gentoo-sources, I've still got the error where it is trying to download off the internet.
/usr/portage/packages/ALL is populated with the sources.
Something is still broken here. |
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avenj Retired Dev
Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 495 Location: New Hampshire
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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echo6 wrote: | I got the i686-1.4-20030803-cd1.iso from the UK mirror site, followed the install guide until genkernel gentoo-sources, I've still got the error where it is trying to download off the internet.
/usr/portage/packages/ALL is populated with the sources.
Something is still broken here. |
Pay attention to datestamps - it's the 20030806 cd that's fixed.
Check oregonstate. |
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spacejunk n00b
Joined: 06 Aug 2003 Posts: 29
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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I have the new 20030806 ISO; it's still calling out to the internet because it's still looking for genkernel 1.2.
The portage directory has no entry for genkernel 1.5; just 1.0, 1.1, and 1.2. |
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spacejunk n00b
Joined: 06 Aug 2003 Posts: 29
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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I solved this issue by downloading the genkernel-1.5 ebuild to my USB key, and copying it to the genkernel folder under /usr/portage/sys-kernel/genkernel. |
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avenj Retired Dev
Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 495 Location: New Hampshire
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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2003 1:45 am Post subject: |
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spacejunk wrote: | I have the new 20030806 ISO; it's still calling out to the internet because it's still looking for genkernel 1.2.
The portage directory has no entry for genkernel 1.5; just 1.0, 1.1, and 1.2. |
Wow, that's weird. I know I fixed it...
Hmm...
Fresh x86 ISOs will be ready tonight or tomorrow morning (this build is taking forever...) at any rate, and those should fix all of the outstanding bugs. |
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stonent Veteran
Joined: 07 Aug 2003 Posts: 1139 Location: Texas
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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2003 2:37 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | this build is taking forever |
Spoken like a true developer! Reminds me of an article on MS I read about the development of Windows. Every night they would commit changes to their cvs and begin a build. It would be done 24 hours later. Over the years the computers got faster yet no matter what, the windows builds always took 24 hours.
So basically the next day they would begin adding more code, but wouldn't know yesterday's results until the end of the day.
Kinda like for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. Computers got faster, and MS bloated the OS in proportion. Microsoft and Moore's law were yin and yang. |
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spacejunk n00b
Joined: 06 Aug 2003 Posts: 29
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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2003 2:46 am Post subject: |
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I also could not install GNOME (file roller was missing from Disc 2)
Also, my CDROM refused to unmount. |
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stonent Veteran
Joined: 07 Aug 2003 Posts: 1139 Location: Texas
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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2003 2:53 am Post subject: |
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If you are still "booted" from the first cd, it won't let you eject because the real root fs is still active. You'll probably have to boot from the HD and then insert disc 2. |
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spacejunk n00b
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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2003 3:11 am Post subject: |
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I did.
I was booted running Gentoo, and the CD refused to unmount. |
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stonent Veteran
Joined: 07 Aug 2003 Posts: 1139 Location: Texas
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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2003 3:30 am Post subject: |
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umount /mnt/cdrom
eject
should get it out. Does umount give you an error, or complain that the drive is busy?
You might have to power down and hit the eject button before the system begins booting. |
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spacejunk n00b
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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2003 3:42 am Post subject: |
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Yes, it does complain. |
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stonent Veteran
Joined: 07 Aug 2003 Posts: 1139 Location: Texas
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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2003 6:10 am Post subject: |
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Well the drive is busy because i think it booted from it rather than your hd. |
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spacejunk n00b
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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2003 6:34 am Post subject: |
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couldn't have; the drive was empty. |
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stonent Veteran
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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2003 7:07 am Post subject: |
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Problem solved then. You got your disc out. |
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spacejunk n00b
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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2003 7:42 am Post subject: |
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No:
I turned the computer on, with the drive empty, and logged in. I then put a cd into the drive, and mounted it. I installed what I needed to, then I tried to unmount. It wouldn't unmount, even though I closed down everything that had been accessing the drive. |
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