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chadj n00b
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2003 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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Avenj,
Thanks man you rock! |
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spacejunk n00b
Joined: 06 Aug 2003 Posts: 29
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2003 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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THANK YOU!!!!!
The kernel emerge works now! Thank you very much! |
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TheMatt n00b
Joined: 22 May 2003 Posts: 35 Location: Boulder, CO
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2003 2:16 pm Post subject: What if we gave up...? |
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Avenj, what if we gave up on GRP and started using a traditional approach? Is there a good way to remove all the tarbzall's I have in /usr/portage? Like an emerge command, or just rm a directory? I'd hate to bork my system by removing the wrong thing. Note, I used the old cp -a command.
Also, I think you'll want to change the GRP Disc 2 "cp -a" command as well. It currently reads:
Code: | # cp -a /mnt/cdrom/packages/* /usr/portage/packages/ |
which is probably bad... _________________ The Matt
I am a theoretical chemist. Fear me! Please. |
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spacejunk n00b
Joined: 06 Aug 2003 Posts: 29
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2003 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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New issue: I try to genkernel the gentoo-sources, but it tries to call out to the internet again. |
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avenj Retired Dev
Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 495 Location: New Hampshire
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2003 7:31 pm Post subject: Re: What if we gave up...? |
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TheMatt wrote: | Avenj, what if we gave up on GRP and started using a traditional approach? Is there a good way to remove all the tarbzall's I have in /usr/portage? Like an emerge command, or just rm a directory? I'd hate to bork my system by removing the wrong thing. Note, I used the old cp -a command.
Also, I think you'll want to change the GRP Disc 2 "cp -a" command as well. It currently reads:
Code: | # cp -a /mnt/cdrom/packages/* /usr/portage/packages/ |
which is probably bad... |
You can just rm -rf /usr/portage/packages and you'll be fine if you decide to go the compiled route. |
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avenj Retired Dev
Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 495 Location: New Hampshire
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2003 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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spacejunk wrote: | New issue: I try to genkernel the gentoo-sources, but it tries to call out to the internet again. |
Were you able to merge gentoo-sources successfully from the package before running genkernel? Ideally it should never try to remerge what's already merged.
The GRP set actually has an old version of genkernel (1.2) that's not nearly as good as the new version. That's my fault. |
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spacejunk n00b
Joined: 06 Aug 2003 Posts: 29
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2003 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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Can I get the new genkernel without having to enter CVS?
Yes; I used "emerge -k sys-kernel/gentoo-sources" successfully.
Also, I did manage (through manual kernel configuration) to boot off the HDD, but when I did, I had NO modules loaded and I couldn't load any myself (modprobe refused to load anything). Also, I could not access my CDROM drive (it said that /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 did not exist). |
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avenj Retired Dev
Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 495 Location: New Hampshire
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2003 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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Sounds like you need to fix your kernel config.
For genkernel, if you can emerge sync, you can get the new one - emerge -u genkernel after emerge sync |
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spacejunk n00b
Joined: 06 Aug 2003 Posts: 29
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2003 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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That's the problem; I can't do anything that requires dialing out to the internet.
I have a Conextant HSF modem that requires a special driver. |
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avenj Retired Dev
Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 495 Location: New Hampshire
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2003 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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Apparently that version of genkernel insists on remerging the kernel even if it's installed...
If you can't get a newer version of genkernel, here's a workaround:
Edit /usr/sbin/genkernel (it's a bash script) and search for the function 'doemerge'
Look for:
else
ebegin "Emerging "$KERNEL" stable version"
emerge --pretend "$KERNEL" || die
emerge "$KERNEL" || die
eend
fi
Change that to:
else
ebegin "Emerging "$KERNEL" stable version"
emerge -pn "$KERNEL" || die
emerge -n "$KERNEL" || die
eend
fi |
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spacejunk n00b
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2003 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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Will try ASAP; had to start over again. |
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neenee Veteran
Joined: 20 Jul 2003 Posts: 1786
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2003 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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ooh.. i'm having loads of fun installing gentoo for the first time.
i've run into this genkernel problem as well.. but i do have net
access. but i wanted to do a 'quick' gentoo install (i think it said
it was possible in about an hour somewhere in the install guide
or grp info text)... but it seems it's not possible for me yet.
now i wonder why i left slackware to try this. lol..
*sighs*.. and goes back to his other system to try and install
gentoo for the fifth time this evening.
i'll get there. |
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avenj Retired Dev
Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 495 Location: New Hampshire
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2003 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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GRP does suck this time around - it's the first real GRP release (rc2 had kind of a beta GRP, but it was completely different from this GRP build).
QA is also not where it should be, which is largely my fault. Despite efforts to get people to QA test, people tend to put it off until it's too late, and I don't have the hardware to test all of the builds myself.
I've already resigned as release coordinator - hopefully whoever picks it up will do a better job with the next release. |
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neenee Veteran
Joined: 20 Jul 2003 Posts: 1786
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2003 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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i'm glad it's not me, and i will not move on to
trying to install from stage 3 with net access.
good luck with the GRP project :) |
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spacejunk n00b
Joined: 06 Aug 2003 Posts: 29
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2003 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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Mistakes happen; please don't bee too hard on yourself. You've been a tremendous help here. |
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avenj Retired Dev
Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 495 Location: New Hampshire
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2003 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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With regards to genkernel, I will put up new ISOs tonight with a fresh datestamp that have the new genkernel. |
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spacejunk n00b
Joined: 06 Aug 2003 Posts: 29
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2003 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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New error message:
cdimage linux # genkernel vanilla-sources
* Emerging vanilla-sources stable version...
There are the packages that I would merge, in order:
Calculating dependencies ...done!
Calculating dependencies ...done!
>>> Auto-cleaning packages ...
>>> No outdated packages were found on your system.
* GNU info directory index is up-to-date
* Setting root device to /dev/hda3
Cannot find kernel NAME /tmp/KV
: aborting |
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spacejunk n00b
Joined: 06 Aug 2003 Posts: 29
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2003 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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Will the official Gentoo set I bought have these updates in it? |
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avenj Retired Dev
Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 495 Location: New Hampshire
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2003 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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spacejunk wrote: | Will the official Gentoo set I bought have these updates in it? |
I think so. As far as I know, nothing's been shipped. |
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spacejunk n00b
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2003 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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OK. Just curious, since they said that it'd start shipping on the 5th. |
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spacejunk n00b
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2003 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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I managed to emerge sync on the machine I'm currently attempting the install on (it's a VMware 4 virtual machine, which I'm using before I nuke my Slackware 9 box again).
Is there any way I can mount my Dell USB key while running this install? I downloaded the updated genkernel and saved it there. |
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avenj Retired Dev
Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 495 Location: New Hampshire
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2003 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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The genkernel issue only affects the x86 and i686 LiveCDs, apparently.
Fresh x86 and i686 GRP CD1 LiveCDs are on their way to mirrors. Check oregonstate.edu in about an hour. They're datestamped as 20030806. |
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djoi n00b
Joined: 10 Nov 2002 Posts: 49
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 2:16 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | Fresh x86 and i686 GRP CD1 LiveCDs are on their way to mirrors |
Too late for me ..hehe
Same problem here with GRP ..grr
I made an emerge sync now .
Maybe you should use a flag like "--usepkgonly" or something like that
and if found in right place , use it ,otherwise download start
I hope genkernel gives me a bootsplash , coz theres no flag now like
with 1.2
..but good work , thx . It will rock , like always .
The only think which suck is my P700 in second machine
bye |
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spacejunk n00b
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 3:11 am Post subject: |
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I will try the new LiveCD tomorrow.
I have 56k at home; work has DSL. |
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Jimbow Guru
Joined: 18 Feb 2003 Posts: 597 Location: Silver City, NM
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 4:21 am Post subject: |
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avenj wrote: | I've already resigned as release coordinator - hopefully whoever picks it up will do a better job with the next release. |
I am very sorry to hear this. You've been doing a tremendous amount of work and are probably in need of a break and a lot of catch up sleep.
After you've had a chance to rest perhaps you will reconsider. The (probably very painful) experience you are getting this time around would be extremely useful for the next iteration.
The 1.4 release is a huge step forward in many ways and everything is so new: Gentoo is new, many of the devs are new and there are many new features to the release.
Things weren't perfect, there were some mistakes, but it looks like they're getting fixed quickly. So the CD's get shipped a few days later than expected. It's not the end of the world. If fact in this situation it is to be expected (but don't tell the devs that ).
All in all I think you've done an incredible job. After you get some rest I hope that you will be able to see this too. _________________ After Perl everything else is just assembly language. |
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