How does GRP work?

Sven Vermeulen · Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 8:14 am Post subject:

The command is emerge -k system. The GRP will only succeed if you have issued the copy-commands and used the portage snapshot (and not an emerge sync).

To verify that everything is in order, check the contents of /usr/portage/packages. It should contain a directory called All in which all packages (tarballs) reside.

The /usr/portage/distfiles directory should also contains sourcecode (also in tarballs).

eltech · Guru Joined: 05 Nov 2002 Posts: 582 Location: New York

Just a thought ..

with so many people going to do GRP installs now (i did cause i have no broadband at home) that you dont need net access, why doesnt someone create a seperate guide for the GRP install so no one get confused about anything?

even for a first time installer, the compiled install docs seem a bit confusing and unclear as to which part the GRP user does ..

I am sure Gentoo developers will work on getting the GRP install better and better, so.. how about its own seperate set of docs ..

no flamming please..

just my thought ..

hygge · n00b Joined: 07 Jan 2003 Posts: 66 Location: Sweden

sounds clever

Sven Vermeulen · Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 9:59 am Post subject:

This has been discussed, but not approved. Splitting the installation guide in two (for GRP) makes things more difficult to handle, since there really are not that much differences. We would then have to update both guides every time something changes.

The only difference between with or without GRP are the two code listings that copy over the packages to your system.

Even more, we're going to integrate the guides more closely, namely creating a Gentoo Handbook.

phillhip · n00b Joined: 04 Sep 2003 Posts: 3

I don't think it's an installation problem. I have run the install without running emerge sync and I also meet installations problems with gnome. For Xmms for exemple: no problems. But for gnome, after somme packages, it tries to connect to get the packages. I have dowloaded the two cds from ftp.belnet.be for athlon xp.

Lani · n00b Joined: 06 Sep 2003 Posts: 1

SqueekRatty · n00b Joined: 06 Sep 2003 Posts: 27 Location: Texas

I must be the dumbest guy to ever try install gentoo.
sigh
6 miserable attempts to do something other than play with the "live" cd.
Im currently trying the:
i386 gentoo linux GRP install disk 1 x86-1.4-20030807-cd1.iso

Like the pentium4 iso, and the basic iso, (all the newest versions)

I get to the:
Code listing 8.6: Prepping and entering the chroot environment

# mount -t proc proc /mnt/gentoo/proc
# cp /etc/resolv.conf /mnt/gentoo/etc/resolv.conf
# chroot /mnt/gentoo /bin/bash
# env-update
Regenerating /etc/ld.so.cache...
# source /etc/profile
(The above points your shell to the new paths and updated binaries)

and it NEVER works.
What, oh what am I missing?

I have Pentium4 1.8GHz with 512 cache, 533MHz FSB, and 266MHz memory frequency.
Thank goodness I'm doing this on empty single hard drive.
4335MB IBM HardDrive
100MB Boot type 83
1024MB swap type 82 (swap)
3000MB type 83 / (supposedly /)

fdisked, file systemed, swapon, mounted....
everything seems to go fine till I get to the cursed chroot...
lol, help a struggling n00b...
I'm dyin on this thing...
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rootkit · Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2003 4:30 am Post subject:

Try changing to the root of the drive.

Code listing 8.6: Prepping and entering the chroot environment
cd /
# mount -t proc proc /mnt/gentoo/proc
# cp /etc/resolv.conf /mnt/gentoo/etc/resolv.conf
# chroot /mnt/gentoo /bin/bash
# env-update
Regenerating /etc/ld.so.cache...
# source /etc/profile
(The above points your shell to the new paths and updated binaries)

SqueekRatty · n00b Joined: 06 Sep 2003 Posts: 27 Location: Texas

Thanks, rootkit;
I dont know if that would have worked, but I copied it down for future reference.
I am now on my 8th attempt at installing the small fast penguin... lol
and I'm already past the chroot stage, and into the bootstrap.sh
But, on my NEXT install attemp, heh heh, I'll use that "cd /" command.
Love my penguin, Love my penguin....
Never give up, Never surrender!
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SqueekRatty · n00b Joined: 06 Sep 2003 Posts: 27 Location: Texas

Thanks, rootkit;
I dont know if that would have worked, but I copied it down for future reference.
I am now on my 8th attempt at installing the small fast penguin... lol
and I'm already past the chroot stage, and into the bootstrap.sh
But, on my NEXT install attempt, heh heh, I'll use that "cd /" command.
Love my penguin, Love my penguin....
Never give up, Never surrender!
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Stu_Hacking · n00b Joined: 14 Jul 2003 Posts: 4 Location: NI

I have a problem with the gfx drivers part - it seems to try looking on the internet for the ati-drivers when I type

emerge ati-drivers

I have also tried emerge -k(-K)

although I now have the new updated ati drivers in an rpm file so I was wondering if gentoo had rpm already installed or wether I'll need to install it manually?

Zenkat · n00b Joined: 13 Sep 2003 Posts: 1

If you can figure out which sections to skip while installing a GRP configuration, all is well until you get to this in section 15:
emerge -k sys-kernel/gentoo-sources

Whether that "k" is a "k" or a "K", kernel sources won't be installed. In the case of a lower case k, an attempt is made to use a non-existant net connection and in the case of an upper case K, there is no package to satisfy the request. The same thing happens with "emerge -k grub" later and grub itself is not installed unless you do this, so you can't create a grub boot -> no gentoo installed. Of course, since you can't install kernel sources, you can't run genkernel and so you have no kernel binaries or initrd to use to build a boot anyway!

I did think to try the 2nd CD, but I am unable to get CD 1 to umount/eject so that I can cp it's contents over to the hd!

edited to add: found the info on the bad doc on the cd image about cp .../packages/* <-- don't use *! kernel building now.
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SqueekRatty · n00b Joined: 06 Sep 2003 Posts: 27 Location: Texas

Man are you telling me that all the laborious install attempts I've made are useless because the command is wrong?

Dear Uber-Geeks:
A brief synopsis;
I am currently on my 17th attempt at installing gentoo linux on my P4 1.8GHz pc.
I'm pretty sure I've made every error that a noob can make, but I've tried my best to do exactly what the install doc said.
I know it's possible to get this installed, because people have said they've installed it.
My biggest problem is in being sure which parts of the manual apply to the different install options in the install doc.
It says stuff like
"GRP users can skip this section", but it never implicitly says where you pick back up again. it would be helpfull if it did.
I've tried every install method.
I have 8, count 'em 8 , gentoo iso CDs that I've burned, including the latest x86-basic-1.4-20030911.iso that I'm using now.
I've printed the x86 install guide xml twice, (it was updated on the 11th, and I [b]hoped[/b] it would be clearer).
I've printed the portage guide.
I have a second computer to do internet searches on while I'm installing (heh, heh) gentoo on the other.
I log my commands in a word doc on puter 2, while I'm installing on puter 2.
I carefully compare each instruction to the manual before entering.
But the manual is trying to be all things to all people, and now they're going to "MORE closely integrate" the manual?
Bad idea.
Harder for the document team to maintain more than one document?
Sure, I guess.
But its way harder on someone new to gentoo to try and sort through your documentation
But the present system is harder on people who want to try gentoo.
How many install attempts will the average linux user make on a distro?
Is it a concern of the document team that the present system is driving away new users?

Inquisitive Rodents want to know!
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SqueekRatty · n00b Joined: 06 Sep 2003 Posts: 27 Location: Texas

Man are you telling me that all the laborious install attempts I've made are useless because the command is wrong?

Dear Uber-Geeks:
A brief synopsis;
I am currently on my 17th attempt at installing gentoo linux on my P4 1.8GHz pc.
I'm pretty sure I've made every error that a noob can make, but I've tried my best to do exactly what the install doc said.
I know it's possible to get this installed, because people have said they've installed it.
My biggest problem is in being sure which parts of the manual apply to the different install options in the install doc.
It says stuff like
"GRP users can skip this section", but it never implicitly says where you pick back up again. it would be helpfull if it did.
I've tried every install method.
I have 8, count 'em 8 , gentoo iso CDs that I've burned, including the latest x86-basic-1.4-20030911.iso that I'm using now.
I've printed the x86 install guide xml twice, (it was updated on the 11th, and I [b]hoped[/b] it would be clearer).
I've printed the portage guide.
I have a second computer to do internet searches on while I'm installing (heh, heh) gentoo on the other.
I log my commands in a word doc on puter 2, while I'm installing on puter 2.
I carefully compare each instruction to the manual before entering.
But the manual is trying to be all things to all people, and now they're going to "MORE closely integrate" the manual?
Bad idea.
Harder for the document team to maintain more than one document?
Sure, I guess.
But its way harder on someone new to gentoo to try and sort through your documentation
But the present system is harder on people who want to try gentoo.
How many install attempts will the average linux user make on a distro?
Is it a concern of the document team that the present system is driving away new users?

Inquisitive Rodents want to know!
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while(dead-horse)
beat();

sdi · n00b Joined: 12 Sep 2003 Posts: 4

Hey Hey! I know! Disconnect your cable! Then you won't be able to download the stuff and will be "forced" to use the one in portage! Heh.

I myself am doing grp install and after copying and tar all the other stuff, everything went fine. I think it's because your connection is detected at boot time and then your options in order of precedence would be to first download, if it's not there, then use the one in portage. Ah heck, I don't know gentoo installation this well. I don't even know what I'm saying.
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_Corvus · n00b Joined: 12 Jul 2003 Posts: 32

I saw this somewhere's around here.

Forget who.. But there is a line missing from install listing.

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_Corvus · n00b Joined: 12 Jul 2003 Posts: 32

Dunno. I have been away too long.

(away with Win..)

My last *nix stuff was with FreeBSD 4.2, before that was when Novel 4.0 was just available for viewing. Then we are back in the 80's

..atleast it is only 1980's

yeah.. I used an abacus.. so what?

(and there were games you could play on them

Anyone happen to remember any?)

sparks · Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2003 10:53 pm Post subject:

I just downloaded and used the GRP install disks dated 20030911 and all GRP files worked, even gnome. I did this install without my CAT5 cable pluged in so just to make sure no files would be downloaded

I started from stage 3 copied all files over and did a binary install of gentoo, X, gnome, mozilla, and evolution. Yeah!
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ColonelPanic · n00b Joined: 04 Mar 2003 Posts: 5

Actually, why even bother to copy the files from the CDROM to your local HD?

This worked for me directly from the CDROM:

export PKGDIR=/mnt/cdrom/packages

then do the emerge -k

_Corvus · n00b Joined: 12 Jul 2003 Posts: 32

That is sneaky

(wish I thought of it

)

DirtyDirty · n00b Joined: 29 Sep 2003 Posts: 9

i have been trying to install gentoo like more than 10 times.

i keep getting some errors!!

now please someone can tell me what to do ?

- which version of gentoo should i download
- which documentation should i reffer ??

I dont have net connection to download packages. I am on dialup

I WONT GIVE UP!

Redeeman · l33t Joined: 25 Sep 2003 Posts: 958 Location: Portugal

i dont know a shit about this, but could it happen that it was newer on the mirrors @ the internet than the binary dists? just a suggestion, i really dont know

DirtyDirty · n00b Joined: 29 Sep 2003 Posts: 9

https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=92418

read this.

it should work !

please post your feedback.

DirtyDirty · n00b Joined: 29 Sep 2003 Posts: 9

try this

# emerge -k sys-kernel/genkernel

# genkernel