How does GRP work?

tuxlearner · Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2003 6:16 am Post subject:

btw, these are the only gnome* packages i have in /mnt/cdrom/packages/All

Arjan · n00b Joined: 13 Aug 2003 Posts: 25

WaMan · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 28 Jun 2002 Posts: 96

Just wanted to chime in with a few notes about some problems that I had and how to resolve them.

1)When copying the binary packages to /usr/portage/packages, make sure that you follow the instructions EXACTLY. Putting a slash or no slash at the end of a directory (eg, packages-vs-packages/) may mean something different.

2)On the updated i686 CD the genkernel ebuild is newer than the one in the installed portage - you must emerge the ebuild directly instead of simply "emerge -k genkernel"
3)When emerging Xfree it seems that the dependancy cabextract is not available on the CD and emerge goes hunting on the net. Not sure if it's safe, but after all Xfree dependencies are emerged (except cabextract and Xfree) and emerge goes hunting, you can kill emerge and start again with the -nodeps flag. Didn't seem to be a problem...

HTH,

WM

Benny007 · n00b Joined: 10 Feb 2003 Posts: 43 Location: U.K.

when i check "emerge info" i look for line PKGDIR and there was:
PKGDIR="/packages"
... so i just uncomment and change PKGDIR line in /etc/make.conf to:
PKGDIR="/usr/portage/packages"
... and now GRP install works for me.

have a nice day

the lone crouton · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 11 Aug 2003 Posts: 119

Already tried that. On my cd's there aren't enough .tbz2's to get kde running, and the xfree emerge hangs every time. Only things I can emerge are the nvidia drivers, and a few other bits and pieces which are no use on their own. 3d acceleration aint much use without X...

Including shipping, thats about $25 wasted.

viper_byte · n00b Joined: 15 Aug 2003 Posts: 8

Ok in the online manual, it still says:

(under code listing 8.4: copying grp files)
cp -a /mnt/cdrom/packages/* /mnt/gentoo/usr/portage/packages/

Should I use cp -a /mnt/cdrom/packages /mnt/gentoo/usr/portage/packages?

ovh · Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2003 9:59 am Post subject:

See my post, I had a GRP problem too, it's a bug in the distro, I explain how I solved it:
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=75038

nomar20 · n00b Joined: 20 Jul 2003 Posts: 3 Location: Cardiff, Wales

OK, gome via GRP doesn't work. I understand that Gentoo is a distro compiled and created by people for free and therefore have no intention of slagging off these people who have created a great distro.

However, having been told that Gnome whould be part of the GRP I would have been greatful of a little note on the Gentoo home page saying "sorry it don't work at the moment". I wouldn't have bothered trying to install Gentoo to a deadline on a work laptop if I had have known this - I eneded up having to install redhat!

Only after finding the problem did it come to my attention, and by then I had wasted a reasonable amount of time.

Linux is about openess - please be open.

Another point: the mistake in the install instructions for x86 regarding the copying of packages, this mistake was discovered over a week ago, yet no updated instructions are in place.

These little changes would make a world of difference.

Thanks.
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anomalous code · Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2003 7:29 pm Post subject:

I'm not sure where to ask this, but after setting up chroot I go to stage 3 install set up time link, check fstab then:"# emerge -k sys-kernal /gentoo-sources"
I get the error message"No profile directory: system mode unavailable"
I get that if I try to run any "emerge" command.
Could use some help.
Thanks

cyrillic · Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2003 2:32 am Post subject:

leonya · n00b Joined: 17 Aug 2003 Posts: 1 Location: Yaroslavl

I've been using athlon-xp isos. The first problem I encountered - error while emerging genkernel. Done 'emerge info', found out that PKGPATH is set to /packages. Changed it to say /usr/portage/packages - genkernel emerged successfully.
Problem #2: 'emerge -k sys-kernel/gentoo-sources'. Was unable to fix this one, 'emerge -k xfs-sources' worked fine, though. Very weird.

After dealing with those I've got a more-or-less functional system. Emerged several packages successfully, however, all the big software packages (like xfree) failed to emerge, because of the missing cabextract package.

After rebooting into Gentoo I've experienced several weird problems:
a) the USB mouse is working, but there's a message about module 'mousedev' not found.
b) the emu10k1 module refuses to load - no sound.
c) dial-up is not working. I've installed wvdial, copied the config from the main box. Trying to connect: dials and negotiates well, launches PPPD, and then there's a WEIRD message about missing '/dev/38400' (WHAT?!?). After several seconds the connection dies.

By the time of this writing I haven't got CD2 yet, I'll only get it tomorrow. I'm planning to try it tomorrow, hope there won't be a need to download anything except cabextract to complete the install.

To sum it up: GRP install is buggy, but working. It's very unfortunate, that developers seem to not see this issue. Buggy ISOs still can be downloaded, the install doc has not been fixed as of this writing.

I was considering switching my main box to Gentoo, unfortunately I can't do it - seems too buggy. It looks like the 1.4 release was not tested AT ALL - otherwise such nasty bugs as missing packages and wrong PKGPATH would be eliminated. I'll continue using Gentoo on a test box, as a playground only - I need to play with several software packages which require recompiling some system stuff - as my main box has one of those huge RPM-based distros installed [ALTLinux Master 2.2 (www.altlinux.ru)], it's inappropriate for me to make those experiments on it.

rhiinorex · n00b Joined: 10 Jun 2002 Posts: 8 Location: CA, USA

I think the installation is a bit confussing when we want to install the pre-compile GRP 1.4. It will be better if we can have a separated guide for GRP installation and keep it as straight forward as possible.

And one more thing is you should use

anomalous code · Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2003 2:24 pm Post subject:

I appreciate the help. Ok now I get another error.
"calculating dependancies
emerge: there are no masked or unmasked ebuilds to satisfy "sys-kernal/gentoo-sources".
!!! error calculating dependancies. please correct."

Do I need to change something, and how do i do it?
Thanks again.

skyfolly · Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2003 2:43 pm Post subject:

problem solved, thanks.
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anomalous code · Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2003 3:25 pm Post subject:

Ok I fixed the first problem by useing"emerge -K gentoo-sources"
now my problem is when I run "emerge -K genkernel"
I get the same error message about masked and unmasked ebuilds.
How do I fix this? or is there another way to compile the kernel?

anomalous code · Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 7:01 pm Post subject:

I think I have it Installed. I just did a manual install. Waiting for KDE to finish installing then will get out of chroot and reboot into gentoo. :lol:

Sven Vermeulen · Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 10:23 am Post subject: Re: Installation guide

phill_20x6 · n00b Joined: 16 Aug 2003 Posts: 67

I have had the same problem (emerge starts downloading crazy source files even tho i have nice precompiled packages!), my solution came out of sheer trial and error, and i don't know (but i hope!) if it will work for others. Basically the last thing i tried was

cp -a /mnt/cdrom/packages/All/ /usr/portage/packages/All/

and then to test i did

USE="bindist" emerge -K mozilla

and it worked straight away! I hope this helps someone else, and I'm very glad that the people who make gentoo aren't like Microsoft, who charge you through the nose to support bugs in there own software! It's open source efforts like this that have encouraged me to drop closed, propriety software in my home and office, and it's been well worth the effort of getting past the occasional teething problem such as this.

mart_man00 · Apprentice Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Posts: 245

This thread is alittle old....

Did they ever fix the cd yet? emerge -K gnome never worked before. This was with the packages in All.

cybrjackle · Apprentice Joined: 09 Jan 2003 Posts: 248 Location: USA

I was never able to get gnome to install, but

xfree
kde
mozilla
vim
xmms
& some other stuff I can't think of worked.

I don't believe witht the current CD's that Gnome will ever work because it depends on files that are not on the cd or they were updated and not the correct ones on the cd. Sorry, that's what I think!

mart_man00 · Apprentice Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Posts: 245

well, i hate the fact that it still doesnt work but i only really care for KDE now anyway.

ill think abouting end the rant, one year

cybrjackle · Apprentice Joined: 09 Jan 2003 Posts: 248 Location: USA

I understand, would have been nice if gnome worked, but I will end up putting 2.4-beta1 on my laptop anyway. :wink:

Gentree · Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 11:10 pm Post subject:

Hi,

I seem to be having a similar problem but not the same.

When I try emerge system it tries to go off for emerge : (1 of 76)....modutils-2.4.45........

fails because there is no connection and aborts.

/proc/version indicates I am runnign 2.4.20 and although there is an ebuild for modutils-2.4.20 something has triggered it to go for 2.4.45

What can I do to build 2.4.20 ? I only have dialup and a full update is out of the question for me.

Thanks to the man who knows.

regards.