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Diezel l33t
Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Posts: 600 Location: Karjaa, Finland
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Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2003 8:58 pm Post subject: SPARCStation 5 anyone? |
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My question, has anyone been able to build Gentoo on an old SPARCStation 5. I bought one and was thinking of makeing it my development box. Since it has a huge 20" CRT. I like the look of this machine and if anyone has any ideas on problems on this one pleas report.
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Mats _________________ A bus station is where a bus stops, a train station is where a train stops. On
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BxBoy n00b
Joined: 04 Jul 2003 Posts: 32 Location: N.Y.C
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Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2003 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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I have a Sparcstation 20 that I might want to run it on. So far it has Solaris 8. Tell me how it goes.. |
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Ferris Retired Dev
Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 426 Location: N. Virginia (USA)
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Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2003 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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I installed GenToo on a Sparc-20 with no problems (all it takes is time),
and on a SparcBook-3GX, which is like a portable SparcStation-5.
Also, Linux in general runs fine on an SS5 (but I haven't tried GenToo on
one because of internet connection problems-- dial-up speed from the SS5).
So, it should build, and even X should run pretty well on it once you get
it started up. An SS5 is actually a pretty nice machine, so long as you
don't insist that it be really fast. (And expect it to take a few days to do
the initial compile and install. But it will do it.) |
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Ferris Retired Dev
Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 426 Location: N. Virginia (USA)
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Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2003 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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Let me qualify my response. I believe that there are some 170MHz SS5
systems around. I understand that Linux is problematic on those systems,
and a search will turn up a lot of discussion on that issue. As a reference,
the SS5-equivalent I built GenToo on was pretty minimal:
CPU = 110MHz;
MEM = 32Mb;
DISK = 4Gb
You'll want a lot more memory that that, though. |
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Gordium7 n00b
Joined: 30 Jun 2003 Posts: 5 Location: Colorado, USA
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Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2003 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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I bought a SS20 up on Gentoo.
All it takes is time, as has been stated before. My initial build took most of a day, and that was starting from the Level 3 CD Image. BTW, having the CD available makes a really good emergency disk. I know.....
X -windows also took 18+ hours to build. Seems to work well enough however. I admit to using Blackbox as the window manager though, as the prospect of compiling KDE or Gnome seemed like overkill when the actual use of X-windows will be somewhat limited on this machine.
Initially, my box had a SM-50 and 64 MB ram. It had some 'mystery' errors when building some large packages. Once I upped the ram to 256 MB, all the mysterious errors went away -- I also made my smallest drive (512 MB) dedicated as a swap parition so that may of helped as well.
Also, make sure that you have adequate disk space since Gentoo is a bit of a hog. My 2 GB parition I had mounted as /usr was 75% full after the system and X Windows build.
I have since upgraded to dual sm-71 processors. Makes a bit of a difference. Last weekend I finally got my SMP kernel built successfully using 2.4.21-r1 -- prior to that there had been some glitches on the last couple of releases concerning the SPARC 4m SMP code.
Its a fun machine to tinker with... kind of like hot rodding an old car. Parts seem plentiful and pretty cheap. I have had a lot of good deals off of eBay.
I plan on using it for a couple of website, java, and information security classes on my agenda. |
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Diezel l33t
Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Posts: 600 Location: Karjaa, Finland
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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2003 12:02 am Post subject: |
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I already noticed that this takes time (bootstraping 26h 20 min and going ) <--Edited 5.8 16:00 EET
As soon as the bootstrap is done I am gona emerge distcc and let my P4:s do some of the work. The specs on the system,
110 MHz prcessonr
128Mb RAM
SCSI CD.
1Gb HD (this is a bottle neck)
20" Sony Trinitron monitor.
I was hoping I could get X and Fluxbox up on this one. Since I wanted it to be my little codebox. The 20" CRT makes it possible to have many many nice konsoles up. And my favourite tool when progrmming is Vim. So I just need the console
And the Sun Unix keyboard is just sweet for this purpouse, my x86:s all have scandinavian keybs and the Sun is just better( in means of layout).
Hope I get everythin up this week _________________ A bus station is where a bus stops, a train station is where a train stops. On
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Diezel l33t
Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Posts: 600 Location: Karjaa, Finland
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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2003 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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Ok a "little" problem. I had a powerfailure when I was out and I dont know if the bootstarp finnished...Is there any way of checking? _________________ A bus station is where a bus stops, a train station is where a train stops. On
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bazik Retired Dev
Joined: 22 Jul 2002 Posts: 277 Location: Behind you.
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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2003 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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mahellma wrote: | Ok a "little" problem. I had a powerfailure when I was out and I dont know if the bootstarp finnished...Is there any way of checking? |
Look into /var/log/emerge.log |
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Diezel l33t
Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Posts: 600 Location: Karjaa, Finland
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Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2003 3:30 am Post subject: |
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Problems with build. The base system eats the whole disk 900Mb so I need to do it all over. -Os flags in make.conf if you try it on a small hard drive. Learn from my misstakes
Otherwise the system seems to preform very well for a "grandpaa". _________________ A bus station is where a bus stops, a train station is where a train stops. On
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mkincheloe n00b
Joined: 16 Sep 2003 Posts: 5 Location: Austin, TX
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2003 1:08 am Post subject: |
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I've got a SPARCstation 5, the incompatible 170 Mhz Fugitsu processor model. I had all kinds of problems installing RedHat and Suse. But I've got Gentoo on there now and it has been working without any problems since I got it up. It is painfully slow... |
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stonent Veteran
Joined: 07 Aug 2003 Posts: 1139 Location: Texas
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2003 5:02 am Post subject: |
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There was a guy on ebay a few months back selling 32mb SS4/5 DIMMS for $3.50 US each. for $35.00 I maxed out all of systems.
EDIT:
I found him:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3054781196&category=20327
Though his prices have gone up to $4.50 each. Still a good bargain. And he ships very quickly. Only US bidders though... _________________ Inspiron 4100 & Sun UltraAXe
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NewBlackDak Guru
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 512 Location: Utah County, UT
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Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 3:34 am Post subject: |
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Mine's installing now, and gawd it's been bootstrapping for 25 hours.
SPARCstation 5 110MHz
256MB Ram
2x 9.1GB 10K RPM drives
I have about 10 various machines with distcc, and I'll for sure be using those for the rest of the install. waiting for this is highly annoying though!! |
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H0bb3z Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 28 May 2003 Posts: 121 Location: in the transmogrifier
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 5:22 am Post subject: |
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My Sparcstation 5 (110MHz, 64M ram, 2x9Gb hd) is happily running Gentoo right now and is serving as my DNS server. Its also running X, fluxbox, gkrellm, & fwbuilder...
It took me several days of compiling to get things built, but now its solid as a rock... _________________ -H0bb3z-
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NewBlackDak Guru
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 512 Location: Utah County, UT
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Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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H0bb3z wrote: | My Sparcstation 5 (110MHz, 64M ram, 2x9Gb hd) is happily running Gentoo right now and is serving as my DNS server. Its also running X, fluxbox, gkrellm, & fwbuilder...
It took me several days of compiling to get things built, but now its solid as a rock... |
I just wanted to say mine too. It has 3 nics, and is serving appletalk on one, samba and NFS on the second, and FTP/webserver to the outside world on the onboard one. These machine are MULES!! I've tried killing it, but it won't stop. |
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redog n00b
Joined: 06 Nov 2002 Posts: 35
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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 1:22 am Post subject: |
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I am unable to boot the SS5 with any of the gentoo cd's...
I have a redhat6.2 cd that boots it fine tho....
which boot iso are you guys installing from? |
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stonent Veteran
Joined: 07 Aug 2003 Posts: 1139 Location: Texas
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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 3:47 am Post subject: |
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redog wrote: | I am unable to boot the SS5 with any of the gentoo cd's...
I have a redhat6.2 cd that boots it fine tho....
which boot iso are you guys installing from? |
Can you explain further? Are you using the sparc iso or the sparc64? Your model uses just the sparc iso. _________________ Inspiron 4100 & Sun UltraAXe
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turbomike n00b
Joined: 18 Dec 2003 Posts: 4
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Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2003 2:17 am Post subject: |
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I'm hoping not to have too hard a time with Gentoo on my Sparcstation 5. I've got the 110mHz model with 256mb and 4.2gb, so aside from a slow CPU I shouldn't have too much problems with general apps. I do expect to be waiting a while for the initial compile though. |
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dnix Apprentice
Joined: 17 Jun 2003 Posts: 271 Location: Italy
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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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Hi all, I'm trying to install gentoo in a Axil 311 that is a clone of the SS10 for use like a firewall.
Now I'm at the beginning (bootstrap) running just for one hour... (wait dnix, wait...) but he seems that for now there are no problems.
If someone has suggestion or tips... help me! |
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Stieltje Apprentice
Joined: 03 Apr 2003 Posts: 158 Location: The land where the sky is black
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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I have the same config as Diezel, but with the exception that I don't have a CD..
I have used this machine at the univ, got it for free when they got obsolete this wednesday I really like this machines
I am planning on netbooting this one though, and running gentoo on it, with the sparc-sources, mainly cause I do not have that CD :/
So I wonder a little where to start, I mean, I probably need to do alot of compiling on my x86 machine, at least the kernel, so I wonder how you set up a protected "isolated" subsytem so that I don't need to do any changes in my make.conf, ie I a virtual sparc environment on my PC. Maybe that is not neccesary, just a thought though...
it was very easy to set the SS4 environment to netboot, so that part is finished.
any suggestions, or any advice on this matter?
Thanks _________________ PCs nearly always come with Microsoft Windows as their operating systems, but the "OS," as it is called, can be changed to a non-Microsoft operating system with a little work. |
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erol n00b
Joined: 30 Mar 2003 Posts: 7 Location: Münster, Germany
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2004 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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I've tried distcc-ing my SS5 with Solaris but did not work. Guess, if you run Gentoo on x86, cross-compile should do.
Anyways, SS5 is running smoothly (and loud, bloody disks , X with Fluxbox are fine, no problems so far. |
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dnix Apprentice
Joined: 17 Jun 2003 Posts: 271 Location: Italy
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2004 2:42 pm Post subject: |
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I installed the axil and it work very well!
super stable, compiled (but not all packages) with cross compiling on a x86. |
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