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 Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 6:08 pm Post subject: black screen after BIOS |
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ive just done a text-based install from the liveCD .
the live CD cant configure X correctly . I do X -configure , and startx gives me the gray screen but i cant exit from it.
If I reboot ,reconfigure X with X - configure and type gdm if starts a couple of times and im left with a 'failed to start X server message'
| Code: | livecd ~ # lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. P4M266 Host Bridge
00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8633 [Apollo Pro266 AGP]
00:10.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 80)
00:10.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 80)
00:10.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 80)
00:10.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 82)
00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8235 ISA Bridge
00:11.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06)
00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50)
00:12.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine-II] (rev 74)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266]
livecd ~ # |
| Code: | ==) AIGLX enabled
(II) Loading extension GLX
(II) LoadModule: "type1"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/fonts//libtype1.so
(II) Module type1: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 1.3.0, module version = 1.0.2
Module class: X.Org Font Renderer
ABI class: X.Org Font Renderer, version 0.5
(II) Loading font Type1
(II) LoadModule: "freetype"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/fonts//libfreetype.so
(II) Module freetype: vendor="X.Org Foundation & the After X-TT Project"
compiled for 1.3.0, module version = 2.1.0
Module class: X.Org Font Renderer
ABI class: X.Org Font Renderer, version 0.5
(II) Loading font FreeType
(II) LoadModule: "record"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//librecord.so
(II) Module record: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 1.3.0, module version = 1.13.0
Module class: X.Org Server Extension
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.3
(II) Loading extension RECORD
(II) LoadModule: "s3"
(WW) Warning, couldn't open module s3
(II) UnloadModule: "s3"
(EE) Failed to load module "s3" (module does not exist, 0)
(II) LoadModule: "kbd"
/var/log/Xorg.0.log lines 279-308/323 96% |
but other than that there seemed to be no problems.
On rebooting to start from the HD it goes through the BIOS screen and then hangs - No messages at all
are these problems related ?
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| Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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Well, if you get the gray screen, then you have X. Exit with ctrl+alt+bksp.
Did you copy /root/xorg.conf.new to /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
Please post output of rc-status |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Code: | livecd ~ # rc-status
Runlevel: default
autoconfig [ started ]
local [ started ]
spind [ started ]
syslog-ng [ started ]
xdm [ started ]
livecd ~ # |
ii get the grey screen - but gdm doesnt get going
does this help from /var/log/messages
| Quote: | ov 4 18:04:12 livecd acpid: client connected from 22867[0:0]
Nov 4 18:04:12 livecd acpid: 1 client rule loaded
Nov 4 18:04:19 livecd gdm[22878]: WARNING: GDM already running. Aborting!
Nov 4 18:04:44 livecd acpid: client connected from 22889[0:0]
Nov 4 18:04:44 livecd acpid: 1 client rule loaded
Nov 4 18:04:45 livecd gdm[22883]: WARNING: gdm_slave_xioerror_handler: Fatal X error - Restarting :0
Nov 4 18:04:48 livecd acpid: client connected from 22910[0:0]
Nov 4 18:04:48 livecd acpid: 1 client rule loaded
Nov 4 18:04:50 livecd gdm[22902]: WARNING: gdm_slave_xioerror_handler: Fatal X error - Restarting :0
Nov 4 18:04:53 livecd acpid: client connected from 22921[0:0]
Nov 4 18:04:53 livecd acpid: 1 client rule loaded
Nov 4 18:04:54 livecd gdm[22915]: WARNING: gdm_slave_xioerror_handler: Fatal X error - Restarting :0
Nov 4 18:07:01 livecd gdm[22882]: WARNING: Failed to start X server several times in a short time period; disabling display :0
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| Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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You sem to be missing a few services. I would suggest adding at least dbus and hald to your default runlevel. Here is mine | Code: | rc-status
Runlevel: default
dbus [ started ]
net.eth0 [ started ]
avahi-daemon [ started ]
avahi-dnsconfd [ started ]
syslog-ng [ started ]
exim [ started ]
hald [ started ]
netmount [ started ]
ntpd [ started ]
sshd [ started ]
vixie-cron [ started ]
local [ started ]
Runlevel: UNASSIGNED
udev-postmount [ started ] |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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this has just come from the install CD.is there a problem with the install CD ?
Do i need to chroot into my new system and update some stuff ?
update what ?
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| Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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Oh, I hadn't even noticed you were running off the liveCD. I 'm almost pretty sure you need to be in your system chroot to run stuff like X -configure, and definitely certain to add services to runlevels via rc-update.
I suggest you finish the basic installation, reboot your kernel then do all this other stuff, unless you want to be running off the liveCD.  |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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but the problem is the livecd tol me it had finished the installation - then it wont boot off the HD
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| Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 3:13 am Post subject: |
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sounds like a master boot record (MBR) problem.
sounds like you need to reenter the new system on the hard drive, check that grub (the program} is installed as part of the system, run grub and install a new MBR.
this will give a grub command line:
root (hd0,0) is used as a simple example. This should be the disk and partition where the /boot directory resides. For this example; the first disk's first partition (in fstab terms sda1}.
This will write/rewrite the MBR on the first hard drive.
If your computer has only one hard drive the example above should be valid.
There is lots of grub info in the aptly named grub error collection sticky thread. |
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| Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 6:09 am Post subject: |
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| Please post the /boot/grub/grub.conf and /etc/fstab files and also the output of grep ^CONFIG_BLK /usr/src/linux/.config from the installed system mount. |
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| Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 6:28 am Post subject: |
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| Code: | (chroot) livecd / # mount /boot
(chroot) livecd / # cat /boot/grub/grub.conf
default 0
timeout 30
splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
title=Gentoo Linux
root (hd0,0)
kernel /kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.24-gentoo-r5 root=/dev/ram0 init=/linuxrc ramdisk=8192 real_root=/dev/sda3 doscsi
initrd /initramfs-genkernel-x86-2.6.24-gentoo-r5
(chroot) livecd / # |
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/dev/sda1 /boot ext2 defaults 1 2
/dev/sda2 none swap sw 0 0
/dev/sda3 / ext3 noatime 0 1
none /proc proc defaults 0 0
none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0
/etc/fstab lines 1-5/5 (END) |
| Code: | (chroot) livecd / # grep ^CONFIG_BLK /usr/src/linux/.config
grep: /usr/src/linux/.config: No such file or directory
(chroot) livecd / # |
| Code: | (chroot) livecd src # ls -la
total 12
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Nov 5 01:20 .
drwxr-xr-x 13 root root 4096 Nov 4 11:45 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Nov 4 09:20 .keep
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 Nov 5 01:20 linux -> linux-2.6.25-gentoo-r8
drwxr-xr-x 21 root root 4096 Nov 5 01:20 linux-2.6.25-gentoo-r8
(chroot) livecd src # |
ive changed the grub.conf to point to the correct kernel, but I still have a black screen on trying to boot the system.
but i thought the livecd installation should have given me a working system !
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| Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 6:45 am Post subject: |
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| thecooptoo wrote: | | but i thought the livecd installation should have given me a working system ! |
Yes, well, one would think so, but I never used the liveCD, so I don't know.
Have you started dbus and hald and copied /root/xorg.conf.new to /etc/X11/xorg.conf? Did you also add net.ethx to the default runlevel? You seem to be missing a couple of other services like netmount and udev-postmount, and vixie-cron would also be a good idea. |
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| Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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black screen after BIOS almost always is a MBR/bootloader/bootmanager problem
restart computer, enter BIOS see if BIOS boot options include the hard drive.
Is there only one hard drive?
in the chroot run:
emerge grub
then run:
grub
root(hd0,0)
setup (hd0)
quit |
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| Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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so ive chrooted
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(chroot) livecd boot # grub-install --no-floppy /dev/sda
/dev/sda: Not found or not a block device. |
| Quote: | GNU GRUB version 0.97 (640K lower / 3072K upper memory)
[ Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported. For the first word, TAB
lists possible command completions. Anywhere else TAB lists the possible
completions of a device/filename. ]
grub> root(hd0,0)
Error 27: Unrecognized command
grub>
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but ive also got this
| Code: | (chroot) livecd boot # mount
/dev/sda3 on / type ext3 (rw,noatime)
/dev/sda1 on /boot type ext2 (rw)
(chroot) livecd boot # fdisk /dev/sda
Unable to open /dev/sda
(chroot) livecd boot # |
| Code: | chroot) livecd boot # dmesg | grep sd
Driver 'sd' needs updating - please use bus_type methods
sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] 39102336 512-byte hardware sectors (20020 MB)
sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00
sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA
sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] 39102336 512-byte hardware sectors (20020 MB)
sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00
sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA
sda: sda1 sda2 sda3
sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Attached SCSI disk
sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] 39102336 512-byte hardware sectors (20020 MB)
sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00
sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA
sd 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0
EXT3 FS on sda3, internal journal
(chroot) livecd boot # |
the HD has just had openNAS on it ( and it worked ) .
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| Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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Try it like this
notice the space between root and (hd0,0)
After chrooting, run env-update && source /etc/profile. That way your $PATH variable will be updated and /sbin/fdisk should be available. |
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| Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Code: |
GNU GRUB version 0.97 (640K lower / 3072K upper memory)
[ Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported. For the first word, TAB
lists possible command completions. Anywhere else TAB lists the possible
completions of a device/filename. ]
grub> root (hd0,0)
Error 21: Selected disk does not exist
grub>
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fdisk is available within the chroot
| Code: | livecd / # fdisk
Usage: fdisk [-l] [-b SSZ] [-u] device
E.g.: fdisk /dev/hda (for the first IDE disk)
or: fdisk /dev/sdc (for the third SCSI disk)
or: fdisk /dev/eda (for the first PS/2 ESDI drive)
or: fdisk /dev/rd/c0d0 or: fdisk /dev/ida/c0d0 (for RAID devices)
...
livecd / # fdisk /dev/sda
Unable to open /dev/sda
livecd / # |
ive tried the live CD on another HD and another machine with the same problem .
i think there is a problem with the liveCD
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| Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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| thecooptoo wrote: | | i think there is a problem with the liveCD |
Could be. I think I heard something about that.
When you are in the grub prompt does TAB-completion produce any output?
If you type for example? |
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| Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 3:02 am Post subject: |
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Back to BIOS:
Does BIOS detect your hard drive?
If so does BIOS list the hard drive as a boot option?
Is password protection (or any other form of MBR protection) invoked in your BIOS?
Any possible leftover protective function from openNAS? |
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| Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 6:38 am Post subject: |
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another HD with Feisty Fawn on it boots without a problem in this machine .
When openNAS was installed on one of the HDs ive tried it booted.
I have the same problem with 2 separate HDs ive tried to install on.
i think its the software, Im afraid
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| Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 3:15 am Post subject: |
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try the minimal cd. Follow the Gentoo handbook carefully for the install.
I've been playing around with the livecd and find it unsuitable for trouble shooting.
BTW have you checked BIOS to verify your drives are detected and listed as bootable? |
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| Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 3:28 am Post subject: |
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| thecooptoo wrote: | so ive chrooted
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(chroot) livecd boot # grub-install --no-floppy /dev/sda
/dev/sda: Not found or not a block device. |
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Before entering the chroot, do this so that grub can find the devices it is looking for.
| Code: | | # mount -o bind /dev /mnt/gentoo/dev |
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