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PostPosted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 3:35 pm    Post subject: The Gentoo Gnome 2.32.1 -> Gnome 3.8 Experience Reply with quote

I ended up breaking down and letting the Gnome 3.8 come through portage. I have never seen Gnome 3.8 before.

Things I have noted during the ugprade:
- I set my /etc/make.profile to a Gnome-Systemd profile. This cleared a lot of blocks.
- I did not install systemd first and let dependency tree install it. This was somewhat of a mistake: see later
- There were two perl packages related to Intltool where emerge failured. emerge -1 remedied those packages before a resume. I don't recall which they were.
- This is very odd: Networkmanager, Modemmanager needed to be re-emerged after the reboot so that it detects systemd properly and dump their config files. I had them installed but they did not have the files needed for systemd and broke the next reboot. INSTALL SYSTEMD FIRST (emerge -1 systemd)
- Needed to readd NM, MM, sshd, etc back as services after systemd is installed and rebooted:
Code:
systemctl enable NetworkManager
systemctl enable ModemManager
systemctl enable sshd

- ModemManager and NetworkManager forgot all their security keys.
- DIsk space burned about 1GB more than what it was before. Too many binaries. This is after localepurge and depclean.
- Gnome3.8 is uh-glee.
- Had to remove blueman as it doesn't seem to work.
- @preserved-rebuilds: Imagemagick 6.8.6.8 appears to require gcc-4.7.* and if you have distcc machines with older gcc, it will give strange errors (__builtin_assume_aligned).
- Systemd is very unhappy with sharing the clock with Windows on dual boot machines. Default is UTC in RTC regardless of what you had it before.
Code:
timedatectl set-local-rtc 1

will revert to sharing the RTC with Windows.
- Ruby gets installed :( because of webkit-gtk... and it's DEPEND ...)

- Do not try to remote update this :( I think the 2.32 needs to be preserved for many machines.

More comments as they become available.
Edit: Added timedatectl note about dual boot
Edit: Got bluetooth rfcomm working again, needed to reboot again it seems...
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So do you like it (the upgrades) or not?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll tolerate them. "like" is a loaded term...

- I dislike the additional disk space use
- I dislike rfcomm bluetooth breaking once more

- The UI change is neutral to me. So far.
- It's using the GPU ... not sure what it means for power consumption.
- More and more white space is on the screen, seeming that it is tailored for touch...

Sigh... at least this system won't have more blocks for a while.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I for one am interested in your comments and opinions on it, both short and long term.
So I'll be happy to read what you say in the future.

Good luck.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't recall what it was before but Gnome 3.8+systemd on this machine (Core i5 laptop + SSD) takes about 6 seconds to boot from grub until the login greeter appears. I'd have to expect something quick anyway as this machine because of the SSD, so it's not that impressive... It still seems a bit faster than my other ssd machine though. So far with Linux 3.12.8, suspend/resume works fairly snappy as well.

I sort of found bluetooth rfcomm working again. It seems like it works upon a fresh reboot but won't work after a while...
Something strange, something is triggering it to stop working...

New issue: Apparently gnome-shell is causing a lot of interrupts to fly through the cpu and my fan is on quite a bit more than before...

Ugh...
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