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What TeX distribution are you using?
TeX Live
71%
 71%  [ 200 ]
teTeX
18%
 18%  [ 52 ]
pTeX
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
other / third party
0%
 0%  [ 1 ]
no TeX installation
9%
 9%  [ 26 ]
Total Votes : 279

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 8:26 am    Post subject: What TeX distribution are you using? Reply with quote

Recently the question arose if we can remove the app-text/tetex package, see Bug 227443 or the discussion in gentoo-dev, http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_aad95416fcad03e3162d633bc1ce06bc.xml.

This poll is to get an idea how many users still have teTeX installed.

Comments why you haven't switched to TeX Live (or even, why you switched back) are also welcome.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

May I add that TeX live 2008 was released these days. For a review of this release see here, german version hier. This might motivate some teTeX users to migrate to TeX live, as teTeX's development stopped more then two years ago.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still have tetex installed. I've never bothered to change because I don't really use it anymore.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 12:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have teTeX, because it was pulled in by default. What's the difference between them?
I guess I should switch to texlive?

BTW, Here's the packages from the poll:
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app-text/ptex
app-text/tetex
app-text/texlive

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 2:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use tetex, because it's what I've always used and does what I need it to do. If some other TeX distribution does what I need as easily, I can use that.

I guess it's just an issue of classes and associated tools. I use AMS, APS RevTeX, index, pdflatex, graphicx, and also installed the beamer class for presentations.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TeXLive has been actually been built on top of teTeX. So it does the same plus new features.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boy I didn't even know there are several TeX distributions (I knew there are other distributions for Windows and Mac though, so I'm only half alien :lol: ). I use TeTeX because that was the one I came to know of when I started using LaTeX quite a bunch of years ago. Anyway, if you say that TeX Live does actually the same plus other things, then I guess that wouldn't be a problem swtching to TeX Live.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TeX Live migration guide is here: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/tex/texlive-migration-guide.xml
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 7:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TexLive here, and eagerly awaiting TexLive 2008 to use with ConTeXt :D
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello,

I've been using teTeX because I've installed it on my system years ago and it just worked. Now I have installed TeXlive. But what about my beloved dinbrief? Do I have to install texlive-latexextra for it or is there a better style for writing letters according to DIN?

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Punraz wrote:

I've been using teTeX because I've installed it on my system years ago and it just worked. Now I have installed TeXlive. But what about my beloved dinbrief? Do I have to install texlive-latexextra for it or is there a better style for writing letters according to DIN?


scrlttr2.cls from the KOMA package (found in dev-texlive/texlive-latexrecommended) with the DIN style is my choice. Though you can still find dinbrief.sty in dev-texlive/texlive-latexextra as you already guessed(?). A hint for everyone: Use dev-tex/texmfind to find out in which TeXLive package a style or class file can be found.

Even more folks from Aachen! Hooray!
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

V-Li wrote:
scrlttr2.cls from the KOMA package (found in dev-texlive/texlive-latexrecommended) with the DIN style is my choice.


Hello V-Li,

thank you for the hint regarding scrlttr2! It really seems to be a mighty tool for writing letters (even serial letters!). I browsed through the KOMA documentation and created a basic letter template for my needs, so that I just have to start writing.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have moved from teTeX to TeX Live. You can remove teTeX from Portage now 8)
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 3:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I probably should have voted tetex instead of texlive. It's just luck that I recently migrated. tetex seems to have been installed by default by some ebuild that wanted it, or leftover from my original install, and I never even knew it was on my system till overhearing that tetex might be going away soon. So there are probably more users out there like me that don't care what satisfies the virtual as long as it's a painless transition. (i.e. that don't consciously use latex.)

Migration guide seems good. My case was very simple. Intentionally migrating was very smooth. The only weird thing was today building something from a non-gentoo repo that I wouldn't have expected to need anything related to latex. But in reality it did convert tex to pdf for some of its documentation, and assumed some things from texlive-latexextra would be installed. But that sort of thing is to be expected with non-standard repos.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I switched from tetex to Tex Live some days ago, following the upgrade guide. No problems so far.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been using texlive for quite some time, first manual
installation, then testing ebuilds, then the real ones. Since the
texlive installation can be made very slim, I think we don't need
tetex anymore.

PS: I'm curious about the new texlive manager. AFAICS updating
packages creates some problems with portage. Will this be supported in
a way?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nabla² wrote:

PS: I'm curious about the new texlive manager. AFAICS updating
packages creates some problems with portage. Will this be supported in
a way?


As far as I understood Alexis (Ballier) it is not supported or allowed within Portage's version of TeXLive. Debian has a similar policy if I am informed correctly. However, I want to provide an interface between the TeXLive updates and Portage (like g-cpan), though my ideas are rough and not backed up by code at the moment. Due to time constraints implementation will take some time here.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Once (upon a time) I installed Lyx (never known how to use it :oops: ), but if I remember well it depended on tetex.

Now, an emerge --depclean wants to unmerge tetex. Do anyone know if Lyx has become a stand alone program?


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bandreabis wrote:
Once (upon a time) I installed Lyx (never known how to use it :oops: ), but if I remember well it depended on tetex.

Now, an emerge --depclean wants to unmerge tetex. Do anyone know if Lyx has become a stand alone program?


It hasn't.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 4:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

no one here ever hear of the fantastic top notch 'kile', for kde?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 4:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gforum wrote:
no one here ever hear of the fantastic top notch 'kile', for kde?
Nope, trying it out now.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gforum wrote:
no one here ever hear of the fantastic top notch 'kile', for kde?

kile and texmaker are rather similar. I was always wondering whether they are branches from the same project. Anyway, both will destroy files which are not encoded in the encoding qt/kde is configured (i.e. just loading and saving will remove/destroy e.g. iso88591 symbols like umlauts etc if for other kde applications you want utf8; texmaker at least obeys LC_*). This is completely inacceptable for an editor, because in general you do not know the encoding of a file you open.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kile rocks. And, I voted for texlive.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

srunni wrote:
I have moved from teTeX to TeX Live. You can remove teTeX from Portage now 8)


I did the same thing relatively recently. I experienced no real problems in the transition, either. Naturally, people may have different experiences, but those are my two cents/pence/eurocents.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gforum wrote:
no one here ever hear of the fantastic top notch 'kile', for kde?


I prefer AUCTeX/preview-latex for the fantastic Emacs editor. :)
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