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abaelinor
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| srunni wrote: | | djlosch wrote: | | i found out that instead of alt-tabbing between browser windows, i could ctrl-pg up/down to get through tabs. |
Do you know if it's possible to change going back a tab to shift-tab or ctrl-shift-tab in Firefox? |
i havent tried it but there's this, http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20060112112609860
it's about a firefox extension that supposedly allows you to map keys. |
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abaelinor
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| adekoba wrote: | | djlosch wrote: | | why would anyone use a home button? |
at least in firefox, it's nice to have google as a homepage if you do a lot of searching. Instead of having to a) open a new tab and b) select the search bar, you simply have to middle click the homepage button which will open your homepage in a new tab. It works for me. I usually start from google, and all other entry points are in the bookmark bar. |
my home page has all the links that i usually use. the stuff i use the most floats to the top and the stuff i use the least sinks and eventually falls off. i built this into TTH as one of the front page features (i couldn't care less if you want to leave my page -- i'd rather get people to like my app then control their usage). |
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jdmulloy
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| poly_poly-man wrote: | is there a way to turn off the home page button in konqueror?
I'm not even sure if I have a home page set... |
If you want to get rid of the Home button just edit the tool bar and remove it. Right click then select configure.
While I've switched back to Firefox because I was sick of having to switch back to Firefox to use Gmail one thing that annoys me which apparently has been fixed (Just tested in 4.1.1) is that when using Konqueror as a web browser the "home" button brings you to your home directory instead of a home page.
Now if we could just get a webkit based Konqueror or native Google Chrome I could have a nice browser that Gmail works with.
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srunni
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| Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 2:29 am Post subject: |
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| djlosch wrote: | | srunni wrote: | | djlosch wrote: | | i found out that instead of alt-tabbing between browser windows, i could ctrl-pg up/down to get through tabs. |
Do you know if it's possible to change going back a tab to shift-tab or ctrl-shift-tab in Firefox? |
i havent tried it but there's this, http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20060112112609860
it's about a firefox extension that supposedly allows you to map keys. |
This sort of works, but not really. The method for editing the keys is inelegant, and the 'previous tab' functionality doesn't wrap around from the first tab to the last tab. This is why they need to make a KDE version of Firefox. It would use the KDE shortcut settings menu, which is universal for all KDE applications and works amazingly well.
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| drizek wrote: | | The interface is perfect for a tablet and it is so fucking fast. |
Good catch. They use Skia (an Android library for basic image display) + other libraries. So it's not really surprising that their UI is suitable for tablets  |
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jdmulloy
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| srunni wrote: | | djlosch wrote: | | srunni wrote: | | djlosch wrote: | | i found out that instead of alt-tabbing between browser windows, i could ctrl-pg up/down to get through tabs. |
Do you know if it's possible to change going back a tab to shift-tab or ctrl-shift-tab in Firefox? |
i havent tried it but there's this, http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20060112112609860
it's about a firefox extension that supposedly allows you to map keys. |
This sort of works, but not really. The method for editing the keys is inelegant, and the 'previous tab' functionality doesn't wrap around from the first tab to the last tab. This is why they need to make a KDE version of Firefox. It would use the KDE shortcut settings menu, which is universal for all KDE applications and works amazingly well. |
1. They kinda already are.
2. I'd rather have a WebKit based browser. Konqueror with WebKit, Arora when it has more features (most important plugins, like flash), or native Google Chrome.
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arnvidr
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| Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 6:24 am Post subject: |
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| srunni wrote: | | djlosch wrote: | | i found out that instead of alt-tabbing between browser windows, i could ctrl-pg up/down to get through tabs. |
Do you know if it's possible to change going back a tab to shift-tab or ctrl-shift-tab in Firefox? |
Isn't that default? I use ctrl-tab to go to the next tab and ctrl-shift-tab to go back. Always have.
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| Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 7:19 am Post subject: |
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| jdmulloy wrote: | | srunni wrote: | | djlosch wrote: | | srunni wrote: | | djlosch wrote: | | i found out that instead of alt-tabbing between browser windows, i could ctrl-pg up/down to get through tabs. |
Do you know if it's possible to change going back a tab to shift-tab or ctrl-shift-tab in Firefox? |
i havent tried it but there's this, http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20060112112609860
it's about a firefox extension that supposedly allows you to map keys. |
This sort of works, but not really. The method for editing the keys is inelegant, and the 'previous tab' functionality doesn't wrap around from the first tab to the last tab. This is why they need to make a KDE version of Firefox. It would use the KDE shortcut settings menu, which is universal for all KDE applications and works amazingly well. |
1. They kinda already are. |
That link states they are porting firefox to qt, and qt != kde
It won't really fit in with a kde desktop any moreso than a gtk+ app, and it won't address srunni's point at all.
Take a look at some qt-but-not-kde apps like lyx, smplayer, pokerth, etc etc.
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| Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 7:27 am Post subject: |
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| Hopeless wrote: | | jdmulloy wrote: | | srunni wrote: | | djlosch wrote: | | srunni wrote: | | djlosch wrote: | | i found out that instead of alt-tabbing between browser windows, i could ctrl-pg up/down to get through tabs. |
Do you know if it's possible to change going back a tab to shift-tab or ctrl-shift-tab in Firefox? |
i havent tried it but there's this, http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20060112112609860
it's about a firefox extension that supposedly allows you to map keys. |
This sort of works, but not really. The method for editing the keys is inelegant, and the 'previous tab' functionality doesn't wrap around from the first tab to the last tab. This is why they need to make a KDE version of Firefox. It would use the KDE shortcut settings menu, which is universal for all KDE applications and works amazingly well. |
1. They kinda already are. |
That link states they are porting firefox to qt, and qt != kde
It won't really fit in with a kde desktop any moreso than a gtk+ app, and it won't address srunni's point at all.
Take a look at some qt-but-not-kde apps like lyx, smplayer, pokerth, etc etc. |
Except that a Qt Firefox will be much less visually offensive on KDE than it's Gtk brother oob.
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jdmulloy
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| AidanJT wrote: | | Hopeless wrote: | | jdmulloy wrote: | | srunni wrote: | | This sort of works, but not really. The method for editing the keys is inelegant, and the 'previous tab' functionality doesn't wrap around from the first tab to the last tab. This is why they need to make a KDE version of Firefox. It would use the KDE shortcut settings menu, which is universal for all KDE applications and works amazingly well. |
1. They kinda already are. |
That link states they are porting firefox to qt, and qt != kde
It won't really fit in with a kde desktop any moreso than a gtk+ app, and it won't address srunni's point at all.
Take a look at some qt-but-not-kde apps like lyx, smplayer, pokerth, etc etc. |
Except that a Qt Firefox will be much less visually offensive on KDE than it's Gtk brother oob. |
Even if it's not a "KDE app" having Firefox ported to QT would definatley be a big step towards KDE integration.
I think the perfect KDE browser would be Konqueror based on WebKit that is able to use Firefox extensions.
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| Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Flexible as Firefox is, it's surely possible to write extensions that hook into key bindings, file pickers and so on that make firefox use the native KDE components of those. |
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srunni
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| Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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| arnvidr wrote: | | srunni wrote: | | djlosch wrote: | | i found out that instead of alt-tabbing between browser windows, i could ctrl-pg up/down to get through tabs. |
Do you know if it's possible to change going back a tab to shift-tab or ctrl-shift-tab in Firefox? |
Isn't that default? I use ctrl-tab to go to the next tab and ctrl-shift-tab to go back. Always have. |
I use ctrl-shift-tab to go back 1 virtual desktop, so I can't use that actually. And shift-tab is used to move forwards/backwards through web controls/links/images on the page, so I ended up using super-shift-tab for this.
Edit: problem solved - I just switched ``previous desktop'' to be super-shift-tab, and now ctrl-shift-tab works in Firefox for previous tab with wrapping.
By the way, does the recessed circle on the Vista laptops for the super key bother anyone else? Is there some way you can get fix that without replacing the key?
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It appears cross-platform support was an afterthought. 
http://groups.google.com/group/chromium-dev/web/linux-status
GTK is going to be done first.
http://sites.google.com/a/chromium.org/dev/developers/faq
| Quote: | Q. Does Chromium on Linux use GTK or Qt?
A. We're too early in the port to have incorporated a toolkit. Most of the custom drawing goes through a library called Skia, which is comparable to Cairo in that it draws lines and rectangles but not buttons and checkboxes.
Many people have strong opinions about the toolkit, and part of the reason it's so divisive is because both libraries are quite capable of meeting Chromium's needs. In fact, because most of Chromium is just custom rendering for showing a web page -- for example, even the popup of an HTML <select> control is custom-drawn by WebKit -- we anticipate the only real places the toolkit will be visible are in the way some form controls look and in various dialogs like the preferences and "save as" dialogs.
With all of that said, the plan is to use GTK. It's not due to any dislike of Qt, but just because there's more experience on the team with GTK and it matches the existing Firefox dependency on Linux. Please keep calm. |
Also, for lulz:
How many distros are using SELinux? 1? Why not use a userland sandbox so people don't have to have specific kernel features enabled?
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say Chrome for linux will not be out this year.
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Now that my laptop is working again I took the time to try out Chrome, and I have to say that I do like it. Pages load fast and the interface is very clean. I don't see much of anything to remove, I have to commend the designers for figuring out how to design a GUI that deals with things like file menus and the like in a way that keeps clutter to a minimum without rendering the program useless. The only things that I see as missing right now are fit-to-width and mouse gestures but those things can be added later. I hope the Linux port arrives sooner rather than later because even at this relatively early stage I can definitely see Chromium supplanting Firefox as my back up browser.
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| sts wrote: |
How many distros are using SELinux? 1? Why not use a userland sandbox so people don't have to have specific kernel features enabled?
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say Chrome for linux will not be out this year. |
This is just them thinking out loud, I rather like that they are considering selinux etc at this stage. |
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| jdmulloy wrote: | | Now if we could just get a webkit based Konqueror or native Google Chrome I could have a nice browser that Gmail works with. |
Do you think the KDE guys really want to switch to something that was a fork from their own work? Sometimes people don't like getting their toes stepped on.
And even if they switch to webkit, that doesn't mean gmail will work. The only reason gmail doesn't work now is that they check the UserAgent. So if they switch, wouldn't the UserAgent still say something about being Konqueror and then gmail sends you to the "plain html" version? |
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| Bigun wrote: | | http://www.los5requiem.com/images/personal/fail1.jpg |
Ok, what am I missing in this one? |
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| TNorthover wrote: | | Bigun wrote: | | http://www.los5requiem.com/images/personal/fail1.jpg |
Ok, what am I missing in this one? |
Look at the second link... the first screenie is the actual Windows error, the second is google's response.
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jdmulloy
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| Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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| slycordinator wrote: | | jdmulloy wrote: | | Now if we could just get a webkit based Konqueror or native Google Chrome I could have a nice browser that Gmail works with. |
Do you think the KDE guys really want to switch to something that was a fork from their own work? Sometimes people don't like getting their toes stepped on.
And even if they switch to webkit, that doesn't mean gmail will work. The only reason gmail doesn't work now is that they check the UserAgent. So if they switch, wouldn't the UserAgent still say something about being Konqueror and then gmail sends you to the "plain html" version? |
There is a variable that you can append to the end of the URL to turn off the user agent check. I still have problems when I use it however, the big one being that nothing happens when you click on a conversation. When you change Konq's User Agent to Mozilla some hack in Konq gets enabled that lets clicking on stuff in Gmail work. My point was that since Google's own browser is based on WebKit they will obviously be very interested in supporting WebKit with their products. This means that any WebKit browser should work with things like Gmail, Google Maps, etc. I used to use Konq and was able to use Gmail in Konq most of the time, but after some Gmail upgrades it broke so I starte3d using Firefox for Gmail and Konq for everything else. now I just use Firefox because switching back and fourth is annoying. At least having the option of using WebKit would be nice, since it's still based on KHTML and most websites will work on it.
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